Now that Vista is on the market, how do you like it?

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Vista if fine. It was money well spent.

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Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
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Doris Day said:
Regular oil changes, flush the rad, check the tires, add brake fluid,
check
the hoses ...


Then what happens after the free trial ends? Don't tell me, let me guess.
You'll have to spend more money to try and keep Fista running.
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You uninstall it, whip the keys out of the registry,
install it and start another free month.
 
Julian said:
You uninstall it, whip the keys out of the registry,
install it and start another free month.
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Oh, so you pirate it. You should have said so at the start. That's what most
Windoze users are - pirates. Why? Because they simply can't afford to
purchase all the shit that is necessary to try and keep their toy operating
system tuned and maintained.

Use GNU/Linux and start to live an honest life. No need to pirate with
Linux, as tens of thousands of packages of free software is available.

Love and Kisses,
Doris
 
I am taking a required computer class for my major in college, this is my
return to school after my children have left the nest. We are discussing how
well Vista is being received by the consumers. I was wondering what the most
annoying or negative aspects that you have found in the new system as well as
the good points. Should I upgrade my laptop? I purchased it last summer, but
I don't know if it meets the requirements. So I am looking into it.
Thanks for any replies, in advance. They will all be usefull.

Beth
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There seem to be a lot of issues, as you can determine by looking through
the posts in this news group. I have advised clients not to go vista until
at least SP1.
 
Vista is great for me, only a few very minor issues, but what do you expect
with a new OS.
One pc had xp and I did a clean install of Vista.
The other is a laptop I bought with Vista on it.
Both pc's work great with Vista, Vista is the wave of the future.
G
 
QuenOHarts said:
I am taking a required computer class for my major in college, this is my
return to school after my children have left the nest. We are discussing
how
well Vista is being received by the consumers. I was wondering what the
most
annoying or negative aspects that you have found in the new system as well
as
the good points. Should I upgrade my laptop? I purchased it last summer,
but
I don't know if it meets the requirements. So I am looking into it.
Thanks for any replies, in advance. They will all be usefull.

Beth
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Beth,

"Big Picture" Negative aspects about Vista, from my POV:
New UI.. yes, one must learn the new ways to get to the old (and new)
stuff.
Drivers - even with a system about a year old, you'd want to make sure
there are drivers available for your laptop hardware and any "legacy" hw,
e.g., printers, scanners, etc.
Software compatibility - I think Vista does a pretty good job running
legacy software, but if it won't run your favorite application, then,
well, you won't be happy.
Resources - Vista needs more than XP. 1GB RAM absolute minimum. If you
want to do multi-media stuff, 2GB's RAM would be better. Video RAM is also
an issue, especially with laptops because so many of them use shared
system RAM. If your video card uses shared RAM then subtract that number
from installed RAM and that's what the OS is going to have to work with
(give or take).
Upgrading to Vista - I think upgrading might lead to problems that could
be avoided with a clean install.
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Good Points about Vista, again, from my POV:
New UI - yes, one must learn the new UI, but I like it nonetheless.
Better security than XP. Perfect? Of course not.
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There are other things I like about Vista, e.g., utility apps bundled with
the OS, but they're not top shelf apps and many users replace them with more
robust 3rd party apps.

In terms of you moving to Vista, it depends on whether your laptop will run
the features you are interested in using. You can check the MS site for the
new features in Vista to see if they might be of interest to you. And keep
in mind that the Vista Upgrade Advisor (a program one can download from the
MS site) is not considered a reliable source of information by quite a
number of folks in this NG, myself included.

If your system is stable, and there aren't any pressing reasons for you to
move to Vista, then you might consider holding off until it's time to buy a
new system. Vista and 3rd party drivers, right now, could use some time to
mature, imho. Some folks, like me, have had no issues installing Vista while
others, well, just scan this and other Vista NG's and you'll see that other
folks are definitely having problems. But that's what these NG's are all
about. Go to any support NG or forum, e.g., for Apple or Linux, and the vast
majority of the posts will be from people with questions about some issue
they're having with their system.

Good luck to you. Congratulations on your return to school!

Lang
 
QuenOHarts <[email protected]>'s wild
thoughts were released on Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:10:02 -0700
bearing the following fruit:
I am taking a required computer class for my major in college, this is my
return to school after my children have left the nest. We are discussing how
well Vista is being received by the consumers. I was wondering what the most
annoying or negative aspects that you have found in the new system as well as
the good points. Should I upgrade my laptop? I purchased it last summer, but
I don't know if it meets the requirements. So I am looking into it.
Thanks for any replies, in advance. They will all be usefull.

Beth
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Most people come here when they have a problem so you're
likely to get a lot of negative feedback. This group is also
populated by a great deal of people who want to knock Vista
with or without reason.

Every new operating system has had it's share of problems
but I've been using it every day for six months now both at
home and work. I have experienced some problems but overall
the experience has been a good one (and far less problematic
that previous OS upgrades)

The true test of Vista is to ask myself would I go back to
XP or earlier and the answer is 'hell, no'.

The more you use Vista the more begin to appreciate the
little things that can have a big impact.

The difference for me perhaps is I chose to upgrade to Vista
and was fully prepared to experience and deal with any
problems along the way.
 
It depends on your laptop. I've got Vista running on half of our laptops
here ranging from a 5 year old (yes, ancient) HP P4 laptop to a brand new
Motion 1700 tablet pc. I also have a 2 year old m200 which I've been running
Vista on but will revert to XP because Toshiba won't provide a decent video
driver and that tablet has been replaced with the Motion.

I prefer Vista and when I use one of the XP machines it is frustrating but
our clients use a variety of operating systems so we do to. In my office I
have a PowerBook (G4), MacBook (Intel), XP running media center, Vista
Ultimate on a tablet.

Personally I would not put Vista or XP on a system running with less than 1
gig of ram.

Most annoying problem with Vista - lack of driver support that only time
will cure. It took awhile for the new windows explorer to grow on me too but
I like it now that I have figured out how to customize it.

Best part for me are the improved tablet pc features and the search. Plus as
much as I hate to admit it I like Aero glass. The reason I hate to admit it
is I have always turned off all the visual effects in XP and OS X since I
found them annoying and never thought I'd prefer them (which I do except
that I use Classic Start menu but that's because I don't like the space
Vista and XP start menus take up.)
 
For a gamer I can see Vista not being the best choice. That's why we still
have XP Media Center on my kids computer. Though most of their games work
well in Vista when we have tried them on a laptop that has Vista installed.
The exceptions are the ones that directly access the hardware - typically
older games.

Out of curiosity I installed Tie Fighter Windows 95 version (basically the
DOS version with a bat file) and it ran. No sound because there isn't a DOS
sound driver and I couldn't get the emulator to work but the came was
playable. Surprised the heck out of me.

For my use there are several things Vista does better but that's because I
use a tablet pc and the handwriting recognition is significantly better as
are the other tablet tools. I also find search greatly improved but that
doesn't become apparent until the indexer has completed its initial
cataloging (that churning mentioned) and I have added the additional drives
and folders that I want in the index outside of my C drive. Note: don't add
a network location on a portable machine or you will experience significant
delays when you are not connected to the network you have set-up a index
share on.
 
It depends on your laptop. I've got Vista running on half of our laptops
here ranging from a 5 year old (yes, ancient) HP P4 laptop to a brand new
Motion 1700 tablet pc. I also have a 2 year old m200 which I've been running
Vista on but will revert to XP because Toshiba won't provide a decent video
driver and that tablet has been replaced with the Motion.

I prefer Vista and when I use one of the XP machines it is frustrating but
our clients use a variety of operating systems so we do to. In my office I
have a PowerBook (G4), MacBook (Intel), XP running media center, Vista
Ultimate on a tablet.

Personally I would not put Vista or XP on a system running with less than 1
gig of ram.

Most annoying problem with Vista - lack of driver support that only time
will cure. It took awhile for the new windows explorer to grow on me too but
I like it now that I have figured out how to customize it.

Best part for me are the improved tablet pc features and the search. Plus as
much as I hate to admit it I like Aero glass. The reason I hate to admit it
is I have always turned off all the visual effects in XP and OS X since I
found them annoying and never thought I'd prefer them (which I do except
that I use Classic Start menu but that's because I don't like the space
Vista and XP start menus take up.)
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I can't say anything about whether or not you should upgrade your laptop.
But you are asking how people like VISTA. I had purchased a new HP this past
February with VISTA on it. I absolutely love it. I have only had 1 actual
VISTA issue that required a small patch download. The other issue I had was
driver related for the printer that I purchased that was labeled as "VISTA
ready", so that's not an actual VISTA issue. But again, simply solved with
downloading the driver for it. I have had no problems so far with any of the
previous hardware/items that I used on it compared with my old XP computer.
iTunes works great for me, and so does my digital camera items. I have not
experienced (yet anyway) any of the issues that have been brought up in
here, but again this is purchasing new, not an upgrade or clean install.
 
It depends on your laptop. I've got Vista running on half of our laptops
here ranging from a 5 year old (yes, ancient) HP P4 laptop to a brand new
Motion 1700 tablet pc. I also have a 2 year old m200 which I've been running
Vista on but will revert to XP because Toshiba won't provide a decent video
driver and that tablet has been replaced with the Motion.

I prefer Vista and when I use one of the XP machines it is frustrating but
our clients use a variety of operating systems so we do to. In my office I
have a PowerBook (G4), MacBook (Intel), XP running media center, Vista
Ultimate on a tablet.

Personally I would not put Vista or XP on a system running with less than 1
gig of ram.

Most annoying problem with Vista - lack of driver support that only time
will cure. It took awhile for the new windows explorer to grow on me too but
I like it now that I have figured out how to customize it.

Best part for me are the improved tablet pc features and the search. Plus as
much as I hate to admit it I like Aero glass. The reason I hate to admit it
is I have always turned off all the visual effects in XP and OS X since I
found them annoying and never thought I'd prefer them (which I do except
that I use Classic Start menu but that's because I don't like the space
Vista and XP start menus take up.)
Click to expand...

I can't say anything about whether or not you should upgrade your laptop.
But you are asking how people like VISTA. I had purchased a new HP this past
February with VISTA on it. I absolutely love it. I have only had 1 actual
VISTA issue that required a small patch download. The other issue I had was
driver related for the printer that I purchased that was labeled as "VISTA
ready", so that's not an actual VISTA issue. But again, simply solved with
downloading the driver for it. I have had no problems so far with any of the
previous hardware/items that I used on it compared with my old XP computer.
iTunes works great for me, and so does my digital camera items. I have not
experienced (yet anyway) any of the issues that have been brought up in
here, but again this is purchasing new, not an upgrade or clean install.
 
Richard,

This doesn't answer the question. What makes it fine? Have you had any
issues with using it?

Beth
 
Adam -

I asked him for his opinion, and yes I did want to hear it. What I didn't
get from your post was an answer to my question just a bunch of bashing on
the developer and a guy who did. Thanks for the input.

This is the closest you came to an answer and it doesn't even have any
specifics:
"broke" in prior versions of Windows and for good measure added more. <<

Personally I don't remember having anything "Broke" on my other versions,
somethings needed tweaking but that is what happens when you write code and
people want it released. That is what R&D is all about. I have always had
faith in Microsoft and I don't appreciate it when people have to bash them.
Maybe I am one of those blind leading the blind but having had some
experience in writing code, I have more empathy for them, I guess. One of the
main reasons I upgraded to XP was because I wanted Spider on my computer. I
was happy with my ME and a lot of people weren't. That is what makes us all
different. And we shouldn't be afraid to be different. At one time I was
happy with my 356 processor, but R&D made a better one so I upgraded. Sound
familiar?

Beth

Beth
 
Dale -

Thank you so much. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for taking
the time to reply.

Beth
 
Thank you Ronnie, this is where I wanted to come because I wanted to find
people who were having issues, specific issues not just Microsoft bashing, I
can figure those out myself. I really enjoyed your post.

Beth
 
Jan,

Thank you so much, this was the most insitful post so far. I appreciate the
thought and candor you included in your post. Again, thanks.

Beth
 
Every piece of hardware I had running under Windows XP is now supported
under Vista. I just had to wait for the hardware manufacturers to get their
act together. Some are faster than others. Some use a new O/S as an excuse
to discontinue support for older hardware in hopes that you will purchase
new from "them".

I even got my old Canon scanner to work - finally.

PS: All of my hardware is 4-5 years old.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Vista has brought me this problems that I am unable to find any solution for
even after spending 3 days seaching on Microsofts own support site.....

1. I am unable to save any attachment from my mail.
Running IE7 and Yahoo mail.
2. Downloaded files disappear- when they are downloaded trough a dialog box.
As soon as the dialogbox is finsihed it closes up and the files are nowhere
to be found on the computer. I have search in all folders. they are simply
gone.

It is enyoing, and the worst is that it seems impossible to get some decent
advice on this.
 
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