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I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition. I am trying to share
files and internet access between the two. I have internet access for both
but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking. Both have
unique names and the workgroup is the same. Is it possible to have both
internet and file sharing without a hub or router? I have tried so many
times -I don't know what else to do. I appreciate any help you could give
me. thank you
 
Els,

As far as I know it's not possible. I use a Linksys router and can share
files, printers, and the Internet for two computers wirelesly. One is hard
wirde and the other has a wireless NIC. For your situation if security on
your network is not an issue then a hub will do, if however, security is an
issue then I would get a router with a built-in firewall.
Good luck
 
one computer is connect to the internet modem and the other computer is
directly connected to the other computer by ethernet cable.

Richard G. Harper said:
What device connects both computers to the Internet?

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Els said:
I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition. I am trying to share
files and internet access between the two. I have internet access for
both
but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking. Both have
unique names and the workgroup is the same. Is it possible to have both
internet and file sharing without a hub or router? I have tried so many
times -I don't know what else to do. I appreciate any help you could give
me. thank you
 
Yes, it is possible, but I wouldn't recommend it. It is a very poor man's way
to connect to the Internet. I would worry too much about the insecurity of
doing it. Even if (when) I have only one computer (like in a hotel), I worry
about being on the Internet without a router.

So I (strongly) recommend buying a router. Not just a hub or switch, but a
router. A typical router (e.g. Linksys, NetGear), is also a switch. A router
is a firewall. You can access the Internet, but it is very difficult for
others (even your ISP) on the Internet to get to your computers. They can
only "see" as far as your router.

With a router (switch), you don't need to turn on both computers to access
the Internet. You plug your modem into the router (into the WAN connector),
and there are usually 4 ports to plug up to 4 computers into the router.

Each computer (independently) accesses the Internet, through the router. The
router is also a little DHCP server giving you a local area network (LAN),
with your own local set of IP addresses, such as 192.168.1.100,
192.168.1.101, etc. The router from your "side" (inside), will have an
address like 192.168.1.1, which you can put in Internet Explorer, which lets
you set up the router.

You pretty much just plug the Cat5 cables into the router and computers (but
not directly between the computers). Now you can access the Internet, and/or
access each other computer, at the same time.

On each computer, in My Computer, Local Disk (C:), right click and select
Sharing and Security. In the middle block, share your drive C, use share name
C. You can also just share particular folders if you want.

On the other computer, you can Map a Network Drive to the first computer,
and vice versa. Pick any letter, and in the folder box, put \\192.168.1.101\C
or \\192.168.1.100\C, as appropriate.

HTH.
 
Ah - what you are trying to set up is "Internet Connection Sharing" and is
indeed possible, yoiu would need to check the cable between the two
computers and make sure that it's a crossover cable and not a regular
network cable.

If (or once) they are connected with a crossover cable, running the Network
Setup Wizard on the computer that connects to the Internet and creating the
setup diskette to run on the second computer should sort things out.

However, I have to agree with Bob - ICS is not the most desirable way to set
this network up and generally is more trouble to maintain than it is worth.
A small and inexpensive router connected to the internet modem and used to
connect both computers will make the network much safer and more easily
maintained.

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Els said:
one computer is connect to the internet modem and the other computer is
directly connected to the other computer by ethernet cable.

Richard G. Harper said:
What device connects both computers to the Internet?

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Els said:
I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition. I am trying to
share
files and internet access between the two. I have internet access for
both
but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking. Both have
unique names and the workgroup is the same. Is it possible to have
both
internet and file sharing without a hub or router? I have tried so
many
times -I don't know what else to do. I appreciate any help you could
give
me. thank you
 
Thank you Richard - I will unpacked the netgear router and preceed with
setting up the "real" network. Thank you for responding to my problem.

Richard G. Harper said:
Ah - what you are trying to set up is "Internet Connection Sharing" and is
indeed possible, yoiu would need to check the cable between the two
computers and make sure that it's a crossover cable and not a regular
network cable.

If (or once) they are connected with a crossover cable, running the Network
Setup Wizard on the computer that connects to the Internet and creating the
setup diskette to run on the second computer should sort things out.

However, I have to agree with Bob - ICS is not the most desirable way to set
this network up and generally is more trouble to maintain than it is worth.
A small and inexpensive router connected to the internet modem and used to
connect both computers will make the network much safer and more easily
maintained.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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Els said:
one computer is connect to the internet modem and the other computer is
directly connected to the other computer by ethernet cable.

Richard G. Harper said:
What device connects both computers to the Internet?

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition. I am trying to
share
files and internet access between the two. I have internet access for
both
but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking. Both have
unique names and the workgroup is the same. Is it possible to have
both
internet and file sharing without a hub or router? I have tried so
many
times -I don't know what else to do. I appreciate any help you could
give
me. thank you
 
I bought a router and will set it up this morning -thank you for your advice
- I appreciate it very much
 
Glad I could be of assistance.

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Els said:
Thank you Richard - I will unpacked the netgear router and preceed with
setting up the "real" network. Thank you for responding to my problem.

Richard G. Harper said:
Ah - what you are trying to set up is "Internet Connection Sharing" and
is
indeed possible, yoiu would need to check the cable between the two
computers and make sure that it's a crossover cable and not a regular
network cable.

If (or once) they are connected with a crossover cable, running the
Network
Setup Wizard on the computer that connects to the Internet and creating
the
setup diskette to run on the second computer should sort things out.

However, I have to agree with Bob - ICS is not the most desirable way to
set
this network up and generally is more trouble to maintain than it is
worth.
A small and inexpensive router connected to the internet modem and used
to
connect both computers will make the network much safer and more easily
maintained.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Els said:
one computer is connect to the internet modem and the other computer is
directly connected to the other computer by ethernet cable.

:

What device connects both computers to the Internet?

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


I have two desktop computers xp & xp media edition. I am trying to
share
files and internet access between the two. I have internet access
for
both
but can't seem to get the file sharing with home networking. Both
have
unique names and the workgroup is the same. Is it possible to have
both
internet and file sharing without a hub or router? I have tried so
many
times -I don't know what else to do. I appreciate any help you
could
give
me. thank you
 
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