Norton System Works 2006 Premier Edition

[billurie]

For anybody who might be tempted to buy this supposedly
upgraded product, I offer the following advice:

1. It comes with a built-in bug which results, on Start Up, in
and error message advising that "Tray Application" has a
problem, and that leads to a link to a Microsoft notice
that Symantec is aware of the problem but no solution is
available at this time.

2. NSW 2006 Premier, so Symantec has advised me, prevents
normal operation of PowerQuest (now Symantec) Drive Image 7.
Their solution is to abandon Drive Image 7 and instead use
Ghost which comes bundled in the NSW package.

 

[Squire]

Get the latest updates and you will find there is no problem.

 

[billurie]

Get the latest updates and you will find there is no problem.

Thank you. Jerry. I wonder why the Symantec Tech Support person,
who actually made an appointment and telephoned me (!), didn't
know that! I'm going to bug him for it.
Bill L.

 

[Squire]

Hi, Bill,

The new Norton Protection Center does an excellent job of weeding out
viruses and making sure your system is up to snuff.
You may see a window pop up once in a while saying something needs
correcting also one saying all your programs are working correctly, let it
do its thing and not worry about it.

Also

Power Quest Partition magic version 8.0 & Symantec 8.01 can still Copy a
complete partition that is a bootable mirror image of your Operating system.
I think they dropped the drive image in favor of the simple Copy command.

 

[billurie]

Hi, Bill,

The new Norton Protection Center does an excellent job of weeding out
viruses and making sure your system is up to snuff.
You may see a window pop up once in a while saying something needs
correcting also one saying all your programs are working correctly, let it
do its thing and not worry about it.

Also

Power Quest Partition magic version 8.0 & Symantec 8.01 can still Copy a
complete partition that is a bootable mirror image of your Operating system.
I think they dropped the drive image in favor of the simple Copy command.

Thanks for additional info, Sq. My PQ 8.0 hasn't done a good
job of making copied complete partitions bootable. At least I can't
make it, so I've relied on D-I 7.0 and PQ Recovery Environment.
Ghost 10.0 (Manual is 145 pages and surprisingly good) seems
to be the old D-I 7.0 in new bundled clothing, so maybe, after
they fix NSW 2006 Premier's installation bugs, that may be an
acceptable substitute.

 

[Squire]

The thing you have to remember is size, will it fit on the unallocated
partition.
If you resize the C: drive to its minimum size, you will see how much space
is required on an unallocated partition.
Do not create or format the unallocated space into a new partition, the Copy
command does it all.
A second hard drive is the best place to use this for a backup in case the
first drive fails or becomes corrupted.
You can Copy the mirror image back onto the first drive and you are right
back in business again.

 

[Squire]

I forgot to add, If you use the 2 emergency boot disks to do this,
You don't have to reboot so many times.

 

[Squire]

I think I had better start over again.

Partition magic uses the Copy command in the program.
You need an unallocated partition of sufficient size to receive the
partition being copied.
Use the emergency floppy disks to boot into the program.
Resize the C: drive with the operating system to its minimum size.
It will tell you how much space it can be reduced to.

By doing this you automatically create an unallocated partition on the rest
of the drive.
If you have a second hard drive, deleting a partition creates an unallocated
space that you can copy to.
Just be sure the unallocated space is large enough.

Do not create or format the unallocated space, the copy command will do that
automatically.

When you get ready to Copy, it will ask you to select which unallocated
space to copy to.
Just follow the screen prompts.

When done copying and before you exit, resize C: drive back to what ever you
want in size.

 

[billurie]

I think I had better start over again.

Partition magic uses the Copy command in the program.
You need an unallocated partition of sufficient size to receive the
partition being copied.
Use the emergency floppy disks to boot into the program.
Resize the C: drive with the operating system to its minimum size.
It will tell you how much space it can be reduced to.

By doing this you automatically create an unallocated partition on the rest
of the drive.
If you have a second hard drive, deleting a partition creates an unallocated
space that you can copy to.
Just be sure the unallocated space is large enough.

Do not create or format the unallocated space, the copy command will do that
automatically.

When you get ready to Copy, it will ask you to select which unallocated
space to copy to.
Just follow the screen prompts.

When done copying and before you exit, resize C: drive back to what ever you
want in size.

Jerry, when I used to try to do it just that way, the
new OS would never boot. That's when I switched over
to Drive Image 7, which gives me an image that I can
"recover" to an unallocated space, and have a bootable
clone. You apparently have succeeded in using Partition
Magic 7 to make the clone in one pass. Okay, I must
have been doing something wrong.

But now, with NSW 2006 Premier installed, Drive Image 7
doesn't work (and I've demanded that they tell me how
to get it out of the way so that D-I 7 does work).

Meanwhile, in NSW 2006 there is Ghost 10, which is, I
see by reading its manual, apparently a combination of
Drive Image 7 and the Copy Drive feature of Partition
Magic 8. I have to study it and experiment to see if
it can do all that the older packages did.

Bill Lurie

 

[Squire]

I think you have it figured out,

Good Luck

 

[billurie]

Thank you. Jerry. I wonder why the Symantec Tech Support person,
who actually made an appointment and telephoned me (!), didn't
know that! I'm going to bug him for it.
Bill L.

Jerry, they claim that what I have in NSW 2006 Premier,
Ghost 10.0, is the latest, and up to date. I just used it to
copy my main partition to the first place on my slave drive,
a large unallocated space, and it did indeed make what seemed
to be an exact copy. However, when I booted to it, it had
problems that I'm all too familiar with, that the old D-I 7.0
and PQRE did not have. Somehow the Norton stuff smells the
difference, resets the expiration dates, requires 'reactivation'
and all of that leads to trouble. I'm still going to beat on
Symantec to tell me how to get whatever it is in NSW 2006 that
is blocking D-I 7.0 from working, the hell out of the way,
at least temporarily so that D-I 7 will work, and NSW 2006
can self-restore on reboot afterwards. Symantec is well-known
for their ultra-paranoid security measures, and this seems to
be another instance.
Bill L.

 

[Squire]

OK, Bill,
I still have one question,
You said the emergency floppy disks did not boot into PM,
Are they the current ones created from PM 8.0 ?

 

[billurie]

OK, Bill,
I still have one question,
You said the emergency floppy disks did not boot into PM,
Are they the current ones created from PM 8.0 ?

Gosh, no, Jerry, I didn't say anything about emergency
floppy disks. I just create the HD copy (clone) and
change my BIOS to boot to HDD-1 (slave) instead of HDD-0
(master). With a clone created by D-I 7 this works fine.
Let's wait until Symantec gets my NSW 2006 working properly
before we tackle this some more. Right now it still has
bugs that they're working on.
Bill L.

 

[Squire]

Right on, Bill,

Good Luck