Non IE based MYIE2 equivalent ?

[Libor Striz]

I am thinking about switching from IE to some kind
of Mozilla based browser ( not familiar yet with the differences ),
maybe with use IEradicator.

But I use IE resources based MyIE2 browser and I LIKED it.

Is there in Mozilla world something similar, relating
to MyIE2 by it behavior / GUI ?

 

[Aaron]

Mozilla Firebird with tabs extension
http://white.sakura.ne.jp/~piro/xul/_tabextensions.html.en
Still not quite as good as MyE2, but definitely better than Mozilla's
native tabs support

Hmm how is myie2's tabs better than TBE????


Aaron (my email is not munged!)

 

[Aaron]

I am thinking about switching from IE to some kind
of Mozilla based browser ( not familiar yet with the differences ),
maybe with use IEradicator.

But I use IE resources based MyIE2 browser and I LIKED it.

Is there in Mozilla world something similar, relating
to MyIE2 by it behavior / GUI ?

You should try Firebird but you will need to hunt down some of the
extensions which will enhance it to include more fancy tab browsing
features.

To avoid this, I recommend the Black diamond distribution
http://blackdiamond.mozdev.org/ , it has all of the most popular extensions
included (TBE, sidebar searches,user agent switcher etc) . You might also
want to seperately install adblock it's the equalavant of
adhunter/adshield.

Installation of extensions is simple just click on the link and it will
autoinstall. Then restart firebird.

http://adblock.mozdev.org/

I personally find myie2's default interface very cluttered, but you can
probbly get Firebird to duplicate that with some work.








Aaron (my email is not munged!)

 

[cactus]

I use K-Meleon, which uses Mozilla's Gecko engine.
It does almost everything that IE does.

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/

 

[Fran]

Mozilla Firebird with tabs extension
http://white.sakura.ne.jp/~piro/xul/_tabextensions.html.en
Still not quite as good as MyE2, but definitely better than Mozilla's native
tabs support

 

[Tattala]

I'm rather partial to Flashpeak Slimbrowser [ http://www.flaskpeak.com/ ]
for
the snotty-nosed, lazy, partial reader who will recognise himself] ...

The product has tabs, skins and much more than I shold write here... leaving
the fun for the 'explorer' ...

F

"Aaron" wrote ...

 

[bassbag]

I am thinking about switching from IE to some kind
of Mozilla based browser ( not familiar yet with the differences ),
maybe with use IEradicator.

But I use IE resources based MyIE2 browser and I LIKED it.

Is there in Mozilla world something similar, relating
to MyIE2 by it behavior / GUI ?

Just curious...whats wrong with using myie and ie engine?.Ie is as safe
as any browser with the right options applied e.g you dont have to run
active x or javascript or have auto downloads but the options are there
if you need them.
me

 

[Harvey Van Sickle]

On 23 Nov 2003, Tattala wrote

I'm rather partial to Flashpeak Slimbrowser [
http://www.flaskpeak.com/ ] for
the snotty-nosed, lazy, partial reader who will recognise himself]
...

The product has tabs, skins and much more than I shold write
here... leaving the fun for the 'explorer' ...

The OP, though, was asking for recommendations of a "non-IE-based"
equivalent.

Isn't Slimbrowser identical to MyIE in its use of IE as an engine?

 

[Fran]

It's probably just the habit, but I like to have "new tab" button on the
main toolbar, mostly such cosmetic details.

 

[Tiger]

It's probably just the habit, but I like to have "new tab" button
on the main toolbar, mostly such cosmetic details.

I do too...and I have that button in the main toolbar. And I use
Firebird. You can customize FB's main tb by clicking on "view"
"toolbars" and "customize."

 

[Harvey Van Sickle]

It's probably just the habit, but I like to have "new tab" button
on the main toolbar, mostly such cosmetic details.

I do too...and I have that button in the main toolbar. And I use
Firebird. You can customize FB's main tb by clicking on "view"
"toolbars" and "customize."[/QUOTE]

Has anybody introduced a non-IE, tabbed browser that has the same sort
of features as the paid-for IE shell "iRider"?

(I'm thinking particularly of (a) background loading assigned to a
single-click mouse button; and (b) tabs structured in a tree so that
you can close one tab, or all tabs related to a single site, or all
open tabs with a single click or keyboard command.)

I'd very much like to find that level of manipulation in a non-IE
browser.

 

[Bob Adkins]

On 23 Nov 2003, Tattala wrote

I'm rather partial to Flashpeak Slimbrowser [
http://www.flaskpeak.com/ ] for
the snotty-nosed, lazy, partial reader who will recognise himself]
...

The product has tabs, skins and much more than I shold write
here... leaving the fun for the 'explorer' ...

The OP, though, was asking for recommendations of a "non-IE-based"
equivalent.

Isn't Slimbrowser identical to MyIE in its use of IE as an engine?

Not only that, but missing a couple of key MyIE2 features.

Bob

 

[Bob Adkins]

Just curious...whats wrong with using myie and ie engine?.Ie is as safe

Nothing.

I've tried all flavors of Mozilla and Opera, and keep coming back. I don't
care who markets the software. I only care that it does its job quickly,
efficiently, and has a few key features I need. Only MyIE2 and one shareware
IE shell do everything right for me.

Bob

 

[bassbag]

Nothing.

I've tried all flavors of Mozilla and Opera, and keep coming back. I don't
care who markets the software. I only care that it does its job quickly,
efficiently, and has a few key features I need. Only MyIE2 and one shareware
IE shell do everything right for me.

Bob

Same here..im still of the opinion that myie using ie is still the
fastest browser that ive used anyway ...literally renders webpages
seconds fsater than opera...and before i get flamed or start a debate
...thats just how it behaves on my system so cant speak for others setups
or conclusions
me

 

[donutbandit]

Just curious...whats wrong with using myie and ie engine?.Ie is as safe

Nothing.

Incorrect.

There are new IE exploits being discovered constantly. Using IE as a base
makes one vulnerable, no matter what shell you use.

Also, there is no way to stop IE from loading up and running in background
when Windows starts unless you completely remove it from your system, as I
an many others have done. Not only does this use resources, it can make
certain versions of Windows prone to crashes and freezeups.

IE is typical Microsoft garbage, poorly written, a pile of munged and
hodepodged fixes and patches cobbled together over the years into something
that "works" but in typical Microsoft fashion, often not well. The product
as shipped is horribly insecure and most of those running it don't
understand this. It's not at all uncommon to get an IE machine in that has
dozens of Trojan and ad/spyware programs installed on it, all made possible
by IE's horrible security as shipped. If you tighten it down to give
anything even close to the inherent security in the Gecko based browsers,
you end up with a cranky bitch of a browser that will barely work.

If you ask a computer security expert how to make your Windows box more
secure, 9 times out of 10 the first thing he will tell you to get rid of
Outlook Express and Internet Explorer. But this is advice that most people
don't want to listen to.

 

[bassbag]

Incorrect.

There are new IE exploits being discovered constantly. Using IE as a base
makes one vulnerable, no matter what shell you use.

Also, there is no way to stop IE from loading up and running in background
when Windows starts unless you completely remove it from your system, as I
an many others have done. Not only does this use resources, it can make
certain versions of Windows prone to crashes and freezeups.

IE is typical Microsoft garbage, poorly written, a pile of munged and
hodepodged fixes and patches cobbled together over the years into something
that "works" but in typical Microsoft fashion, often not well. The product
as shipped is horribly insecure and most of those running it don't
understand this. It's not at all uncommon to get an IE machine in that has
dozens of Trojan and ad/spyware programs installed on it, all made possible
by IE's horrible security as shipped. If you tighten it down to give
anything even close to the inherent security in the Gecko based browsers,
you end up with a cranky bitch of a browser that will barely work.

If you ask a computer security expert how to make your Windows box more
secure, 9 times out of 10 the first thing he will tell you to get rid of
Outlook Express and Internet Explorer. But this is advice that most people
don't want to listen to.

I agree that IE as "shipped" leaves a lot to be desired (like many other
apps including firewalls and Avs until tweaked) however once set (and
granted critical updates applied) it is safe enough in my opinion.I have
ie set fairly tight as you put it (activex/ script set to prompt etc)
and it runs extremly well and very fast,with the added bonus that if
there is a legetimate site that runs activex etc then i can view it if i
desire (unlike a few other browsers that make the choice for you and wont
let you view at all) .As for trojans you cant blame ie for the lack of a
good resident AV/trojan scanner , and spyware is also bundled with many
legit programmes that has nothing to do with ie.
me

 

[Randy Bard]

I agree that IE as "shipped" leaves a lot to be desired (like many other
apps including firewalls and Avs until tweaked) however once set (and
granted critical updates applied) it is safe enough in my opinion.I have
ie set fairly tight as you put it (activex/ script set to prompt etc)
and it runs extremly well and very fast,with the added bonus that if
there is a legetimate site that runs activex etc then i can view it if i
desire (unlike a few other browsers that make the choice for you and wont
let you view at all) .As for trojans you cant blame ie for the lack of a
good resident AV/trojan scanner , and spyware is also bundled with many
legit programmes that has nothing to do with ie.
me

I must say, I was in complete agreement with you a month ago (after
investing an incredible amount of time and energy tweaking I.E. and
adding half a dozen supplemental security programmes, it worked rather
well.)

But then, on a slow Saturday morning, I downloaded Mozilla Firebird on
a whim, and it was love at first sight. I believe this browser
deserves the title "Freeware Application of the Year." It does almost
everything I might desire by default. It has really been quite
enjoyable to uninstall all the popup blockers, cookie managers,
password managers, and form-filler-outers I have accumulated to make
I.E. functional, and I am looking forward to getting rid of I.E.
altogether.

On my machine Firebird is a bit slower to load initially, then it
transitions from page to page with lightning speed. Plus, I no longer
have to look at any advertising at all , by following the simple
expedient in the options, "Load images from originating web page
only." The popups are, of course, eliminated by default.

I really recommend that everyone try this browser, no matter what you
have been using.

 

[dszady]

Trying to get a word in edge-wise "Libor Striz" wrote in

I am thinking about switching from IE to some kind
of Mozilla based browser ( not familiar yet with the differences ),
maybe with use IEradicator.

But I use IE resources based MyIE2 browser and I LIKED it.

Is there in Mozilla world something similar, relating
to MyIE2 by it behavior / GUI ?

Win98(1st) P366 Gateway
Here is what I get for load times:
K-melon v0.8 (w/o homepage) 2! secs
Firebird (with all the bells and whistles and homepage) 6 secs.
IE 0 secs + peace of mind
I don't have IE anymore.
I would take FireBird again in a sec.
I use K-Melon for a wysiwyg HTML editor.

 

[bassbag]

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:52:26 -0000, bassbag



I must say, I was in complete agreement with you a month ago (after
investing an incredible amount of time and energy tweaking I.E. and
adding half a dozen supplemental security programmes, it worked rather
well.)

But then, on a slow Saturday morning, I downloaded Mozilla Firebird on
a whim, and it was love at first sight. I believe this browser
deserves the title "Freeware Application of the Year." It does almost
everything I might desire by default. It has really been quite
enjoyable to uninstall all the popup blockers, cookie managers,
password managers, and form-filler-outers I have accumulated to make
I.E. functional, and I am looking forward to getting rid of I.E.
altogether.

On my machine Firebird is a bit slower to load initially, then it
transitions from page to page with lightning speed. Plus, I no longer
have to look at any advertising at all , by following the simple
expedient in the options, "Load images from originating web page
only." The popups are, of course, eliminated by default.

I really recommend that everyone try this browser, no matter what you
have been using.

thanks for info.I havent tried firebird,though i have tried opera very
recently and mozilla over a year ago.Its a hobby of mine to try different
programmes so i will indeed try firebird.Ive never used cookie blockers
as i believe ie6s own cookie blocker is probably the best anyway, and ads
popups are blocked within myie itself.What puts me off trying these
browsers is the lack of activex which some sites require.I personally see
nothing wrong with it and i l ike having the option of using it or
not.Some thing that ie provides but others dont.I will however stil try
firebird.Thanks again for your experience of it.
me

 

[donutbandit]

On my machine Firebird is a bit slower to load initially, then it
transitions from page to page with lightning speed. Plus, I no longer
have to look at any advertising at all , by following the simple
expedient in the options, "Load images from originating web page
only." The popups are, of course, eliminated by default.

I really recommend that everyone try this browser, no matter what you
have been using.

It's the only one I use any more.

"Load images from originating web page only." can be a bit of a pain if
you're browsing eBay, which loads many images from other servers, but it's
easily reset.