Newsreader for Google?

[howard schwartz]

As is well known, Google probably has the most extensive archive of fairly
recent newsgroups and news posts, short of using some commercial usenet news
service with a lot of disk space and servers.

But it does not permit one to easily follow a newsgroup, since there are no
post IDs that get updated to a file like newsrc when you use Google.

Is there any sistem of using Google to ``follow'' the posts of a newsgroup
like one can do with ordinary newsreaders and news servers? I thought there
was some software that attempted to do this by ID-ing google posts by date and
time.

 

[FYIS.org/estore]

In howard schwartz posted:

As is well known, Google probably has the most extensive archive of
fairly recent newsgroups and news posts, short of using some
commercial usenet news service with a lot of disk space and servers.

But it does not permit one to easily follow a newsgroup, since there
are no post IDs that get updated to a file like newsrc when you use
Google.

Is there any sistem of using Google to ``follow'' the posts of a
newsgroup like one can do with ordinary newsreaders and news servers?
I thought there was some software that attempted to do this by ID-ing
google posts by date and time.

Maybe you'll like using groups-beta.google better!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware

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[Ben Cooper]

In howard schwartz posted:

Maybe you'll like using groups-beta.google better!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware

Yes, this Google service is interesting.
I like the simple stats page, too-
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/about

 

[howard schwartz]

I am not sure how the service below helps you follow a group (?), although it
has an option to follow a topic within a group. The statistics, I suppose can
be used somehow to figure out which posts you have read -- but I am not sure
what a practical way to do this would look like


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Maybe you'll like using groups-beta.google better!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware

Yes, this Google service is interesting.
I like the simple stats page, too-
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/about

 

[B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson]

Is there any sistem of using Google to ``follow'' the posts of a newsgroup
like one can do with ordinary newsreaders and news servers? I thought there
was some software that attempted to do this by ID-ing google posts by date and
time.

I don't know if I truly understand your intentions. If you would read
news with Google just like you would do with a common news reader you
only need to browse to the wanted groups:

Open http://groups.google.com in your browser and either enter the
group name (e.g. alt.comp.freeware) in the search field or click
your way through to it ('alt' + sometimes 'next fifty groups' until
you get 'alt.comp' and so on).

You can jump to a group simply by entering its name following the
below mentioned syntax:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alt.comp.freeware

This way you can bookmark your most often used groups. The results are
sorted threaded where the thread with the newest answers will be find
top most.

Most annoying problems are - you can't filter threads this way; and you
only see you previously visited messages by looking on the changed
link color in your browser window. To ensure this beeing useful you
have to click to *any* message in threaded view rather than just
scrolling down... (And sure you have to set the 'link mark timeout' to
a reasonable value.)

BeAr

 

[JoeA]

Yes, this Google service is interesting.
I like the simple stats page, too-
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/about

This is amazing. I am going to spend some time here. If you click on a
month you can quickly scan the messages. I found a freeware site and an
educational program (Darwin's Pond) from last year. If I have time I
can read the whole newsgroup back to 1996. A little each day.
thanks

 

[FYIS.org/estore]

In Ben Cooper posted:

Yes, this Google service is interesting.
I like the simple stats page, too-
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/about

If you sign-in as a 'member', there are more groups-beta.google
options available.

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[Querulantus]

(e-mail address removed) (howard schwartz):

As is well known, Google probably has the most extensive archive of fairly
recent newsgroups and news posts

Is it really? It's certainly not well known here. A lot op posts don't
show up on Google. Google is NOT a usenet service, it is Google. If
you want usenet use an NNTP server.

Querulantus

 

[Rod]

(e-mail address removed) (howard schwartz):


Is it really? It's certainly not well known here. A lot op posts don't
show up on Google. Google is NOT a usenet service, it is Google. If
you want usenet use an NNTP server.

Querulantus

Still, it can be nice to browse newsgroups from your browser, even if they
miss some posts.
And actually IHMO the Google-archives are well-known here.
Other ways to browse ACF are:

http://tinyurl.com/6bvam

and

http://tinyurl.com/5ubt5

Rod

 

[Michael Forsythe]

Still, it can be nice to browse newsgroups from your browser, even if they
miss some posts.
And actually IHMO the Google-archives are well-known here.
Other ways to browse ACF are:

http://tinyurl.com/6bvam

and

http://tinyurl.com/5ubt5

Rod

Not real current, though; the most recent post is more than 48 hours old.

 

[Rod]

Not real current, though; the most recent post is more than 48 hours
old.

True, it's absolutely no replacement for a decent newsreader. I just wanted
to point out it can be useful for a quick look-up or look-back. Sometimes I
find myself in the situation when I need an URL or a program which I know
has been posted before. In that case it's handy to be able to browse ACF
that way, as you can read the user-opinions as well.

Rod

 

[FYIS.org/estore]

In Rod posted:

True, it's absolutely no replacement for a decent newsreader.

Appears very current on beta.google.
Try http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware , last post
at Aug 2, 3:45 am.

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Appears very current on beta.google.
Try http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware , last
post at Aug 2, 3:45 am.

Also, the Google Groups2 beta service does display posts with the
X-No-Archive header.

 

[Rod]

Also, the Google Groups2 beta service does display posts with the
X-No-Archive header.

Wow, they are fast, your post also made it already. I'm starting to like
this.

 

[BillR]

Also, the Google Groups2 beta service does display posts with the
X-No-Archive header.

Only for 7 days and you can't search for it.
(IIRC, I saw 6 days elsewhere.)

"Google supports the 'X-No-archive: yes' header. Any message that
contains this text in either the header or the first line of the
message will be displayed on Google Groups for seven days, after which
it will no longer be displayed. In addition, messages marked with
‘X-No-archive: yes' will never be searchable."

http://groups-beta.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7918