New registry DWORD value

[Handmade]

I have been having issues with slow login on hundreds of laptops. I
found this fix from Microsoft, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/244474
and have been using it for a while with alot of success. Out of the
blue about two weeks ago, when i go into the registry to create this
DWORD value, i put the value in, and click the decimal radio button,
exactly like it says and i have done quite a few times before, but
when i go back in, it is back to hexidecimal.. i have no idea why it
is doing this suddenly. has anyone ever seen this before???

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

I have been having issues with slow login on hundreds of laptops. I
found this fix from Microsoft, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/244474
and have been using it for a while with alot of success. Out of the
blue about two weeks ago, when i go into the registry to create this
DWORD value, i put the value in, and click the decimal radio button,
exactly like it says and i have done quite a few times before, but
when i go back in, it is back to hexidecimal.. i have no idea why it
is doing this suddenly. has anyone ever seen this before???

You need to be a little more specific. What exactly do you mean with "When I
go back"?
- Within seconds of entering the new value?
- When pointing at another key, then back to the modified key?
- After a few hours?
- After logging off and on again?
- After rebooting the machine?
The distinction is crucial!

 

[Handmade]

You need to be a little more specific. What exactly do you mean with "When I
go back"?
- Within seconds of entering the new value?
- When pointing at another key, then back to the modified key?
- After a few hours?
- After logging off and on again?
- After rebooting the machine?
The distinction is crucial!

within seconds, after rebooting, after a day.. all of the above.

i do every step as is pointed out in the article, in the exact order
as i have done hundreds of times before, and it won't work. I got
curious as to why it wasn't working anymore, so i went back in to the
registry after restarting, and looked and it was back on hexadecimal.
I changed it to decimal figuring i must have missed that part, closed
regedit, opened it back up, and looked it was back at Hexadecimal. put
it back on decimal, rebooted, went and looked back at hexadecimal.

i have no idea what pointing at another key would have to do with it
because the article doesn't say anything about it.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

You need to be a little more specific. What exactly do you mean with "When
I
go back"?
- Within seconds of entering the new value?
- When pointing at another key, then back to the modified key?
- After a few hours?
- After logging off and on again?
- After rebooting the machine?
The distinction is crucial!

within seconds, after rebooting, after a day.. all of the above.

i do every step as is pointed out in the article, in the exact order
as i have done hundreds of times before, and it won't work. I got
curious as to why it wasn't working anymore, so i went back in to the
registry after restarting, and looked and it was back on hexadecimal.
I changed it to decimal figuring i must have missed that part, closed
regedit, opened it back up, and looked it was back at Hexadecimal. put
it back on decimal, rebooted, went and looked back at hexadecimal.

i have no idea what pointing at another key would have to do with it
because the article doesn't say anything about it.

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Pointing at another registry value must be your first debugging step. When
you return to your original key (without closing regedit) then the data for
that key gets refreshed. You will now know if the registry really accepted
your manual entry. Did it?

 

[Twayne]

I have been having issues with slow login on hundreds of laptops. I
found this fix from Microsoft, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/244474
and have been using it for a while with alot of success. Out of the
blue about two weeks ago, when i go into the registry to create this
DWORD value, i put the value in, and click the decimal radio button,
exactly like it says and i have done quite a few times before, but
when i go back in, it is back to hexidecimal.. i have no idea why it
is doing this suddenly. has anyone ever seen this before???

Looks like good info from Pegasus. You might also consider other
software on those problem machines. Is it possible users have installed
things that protect the registry from changes? A lot of AV and malware
detectors these days offer to keep the registry from certain changes,
things like that. It might be worth comparing the tasks running on a
few good and bad machines to see if there is anything that jumps out.
Or maybe a registry monitor to see who/what is changing it back on
you.

Regards,

Twayne

 

[Bill in Co.]

I have been having issues with slow login on hundreds of laptops. I
found this fix from Microsoft, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/244474
and have been using it for a while with alot of success. Out of the
blue about two weeks ago, when i go into the registry to create this
DWORD value, i put the value in, and click the decimal radio button,
exactly like it says and i have done quite a few times before, but
when i go back in, it is back to hexidecimal.. i have no idea why it
is doing this suddenly. has anyone ever seen this before???

I believe it defaults to hexadecimal. I mean that even if you choose to
enter the DWORD key value as a decimal value, when you close regedit and
reopen it again, the default values shown in the keys are going to be in
hexadecimal, no?

 

[Handmade]

Looks like good info from Pegasus.  You might also consider other
software on those problem machines. Is it possible users have installed
things that protect the registry from changes?  A lot of AV and malware
detectors these days offer to keep the registry from certain changes,
things like that.  It might be worth comparing the tasks running on a
few good and bad machines to see if there is anything that jumps out.
   Or maybe a registry monitor to see who/what is changing it back on
you.

Regards,

Twayne

all of the computers are identical in software installed. Users have
no rights at all to change anything.

When i returned to my original key and went back and looked, no it
didn't change. The key i had to make (parameters) was there. The DWORD
value was there, the 1 was there, but it was set at Hexidecimal again.
this is probably the 20th computer i've tried it on.

None of these machines have any spyware software of any kind on them.
As a matter of fact, this one i just tried it on is a completely fresh
install.

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Looks like good info from Pegasus. You might also consider other
software on those problem machines. Is it possible users have installed
things that protect the registry from changes? A lot of AV and malware
detectors these days offer to keep the registry from certain changes,
things like that. It might be worth comparing the tasks running on a
few good and bad machines to see if there is anything that jumps out.
Or maybe a registry monitor to see who/what is changing it back on
you.

Regards,

Twayne

all of the computers are identical in software installed. Users have
no rights at all to change anything.

When i returned to my original key and went back and looked, no it
didn't change. The key i had to make (parameters) was there. The DWORD
value was there, the 1 was there, but it was set at Hexidecimal again.
this is probably the 20th computer i've tried it on.

None of these machines have any spyware software of any kind on them.
As a matter of fact, this one i just tried it on is a completely fresh
install.

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Can you be a little more specific? What number do you enter? What number do
you subsequently see? What happens when you enter the following numbers: 10,
30, 128?

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I have been having issues with slow login on hundreds of laptops. I
found this fix from Microsoft, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/244474
and have been using it for a while with alot of success. Out of the
blue about two weeks ago, when i go into the registry to create this
DWORD value, i put the value in, and click the decimal radio button,
exactly like it says and i have done quite a few times before, but
when i go back in, it is back to hexidecimal.. i have no idea why it
is doing this suddenly. has anyone ever seen this before???

The difference between decimal and hexadecimal is for entry/display
purchases only, and merely a matter of convenience for the user; once
entered, the absolute value of the entry remains constant, regardless of
its displayed.

And I don't think "it is doing it suddenly;" it's just that you've
finally noticed it. This behavior is perfectly normal, at least on the
many hundreds of registry entries I've edited over the years.


--

Bruce Chambers

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killed a great many philosophers.
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[Bill in Co.]

That's what I was getting at too. Why the OP missed that point, I haven't
any idea. It's the same data, no matter how you enter it. For example, 16
decimal is equivalent to 10 hex (same thing). And truth be told, the data
is really stored in binary, anyways. I think regedit shows it normally as
hexadecimal, which it should, since it's basically the best way to represent
and display binary data.

 

[Handmade]

        The difference between decimal and hexadecimal is for entry/display
purchases only, and merely a matter of convenience for the user; once
entered, the absolute value of the entry remains constant, regardless of
its displayed.

        And I don't think "it is doing it suddenly;" it's just that you've
finally noticed it.  This behavior is perfectly normal, at least on the
many hundreds of registry entries I've edited over the years.

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

I would be inclined to believe you except for one thing.... It doesn't
work anymore, and the only setting that isn't the same as in the
article from microsoft, is that it is set to hexadecimal as opposed to
decimal.

A question. If everything you put in there reverts to hex, then why do
they even bother putting the radio button for decimal in there?

another question, if it is so and everything reverts to hex, why when
i put 15 in doesn't it revert to F, it just stays as 15?

 

[Bill in Co.]

I would be inclined to believe you except for one thing.... It doesn't
work anymore, and the only setting that isn't the same as in the
article from microsoft, is that it is set to hexadecimal as opposed to
decimal.

A question. If everything you put in there reverts to hex, then why do
they even bother putting the radio button for decimal in there?

Because it's convenient for some people to think in decimal terms for
entering some data.

another question, if it is so and everything reverts to hex, why when
i put 15 in doesn't it revert to F, it just stays as 15?

Then it is still displaying it as decimal. What happens if you hit refresh
in regedit - does it still show as 15, or does it show as F?

 

[Handmade]

Because it's convenient for some people to think in decimal terms for
entering some data.


Then it is still displaying it as decimal.  What happens if you hit refresh
in regedit - does it still show as 15, or does it show as F?- Hide quotedtext -

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it still displays as 15.

 

[Bill in Co.]

it still displays as 15.

OK, let's try this just to be sure we are on the same page:
You select Decimal entry, and enter the value 15.
Then you close regedit.
Now reopen regedit, and go back to the same key. Doesn't it display F?