New Ram will not let my system boot

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Neocamel

Hello all.
I recently baught 2 1-gig ram sticks from a friend an when I
installed them, nothing happens. The comp turns on, but nothing
happens after that. Ive tried putting the ram in all combinations in
all four of my ram slots, (I have an ASUS p4p800SE) but to no avail.
I've tried only putting one of the sticks in, still nothing. My friend
told me the ram works. The ram is Samsung Dell Memory ddr2100r. When
I put my old ram in (2x 256gig) it works just fine. My mobo manual
says it supports ddr2100 so I'm pretty stumped. I have updated my bios
it is running version 1011. Anyone have any ideas? I'd appreciate any
help! Thanks!
 
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Lez Pawl

Neocamel said:
Hello all.
I recently baught 2 1-gig ram sticks from a friend an when I
installed them, nothing happens. The comp turns on, but nothing
happens after that. Ive tried putting the ram in all combinations in
all four of my ram slots, (I have an ASUS p4p800SE) but to no avail.
I've tried only putting one of the sticks in, still nothing. My friend
told me the ram works. The ram is Samsung Dell Memory ddr2100r. When
I put my old ram in (2x 256gig) it works just fine. My mobo manual
says it supports ddr2100 so I'm pretty stumped. I have updated my bios
it is running version 1011. Anyone have any ideas? I'd appreciate any
help! Thanks!

some friend..................go get yer dosh back.
 
N

Neocamel

I'm assuming by dosh you me dough. and i've known this guy for 12
years. We lived down the street from each other growing up. If it is
faulty, he will give me my money back. But I believe him. I watched
him take the sticks out of another rig before he gave it to me. I just
want to make sure it is definetly the ram before I give it back to him.
He sold it to me for 30 bucks. I challange anyone to find 2 GIGS of
ram for that price!
 
S

Senex

Neocamel said:
Hello all.
I recently baught 2 1-gig ram sticks from a friend an when I
installed them, nothing happens. The comp turns on, but nothing
happens after that. Ive tried putting the ram in all combinations in
all four of my ram slots, (I have an ASUS p4p800SE) but to no avail.
I've tried only putting one of the sticks in, still nothing. My friend
told me the ram works. The ram is Samsung Dell Memory ddr2100r. When
I put my old ram in (2x 256gig) it works just fine. My mobo manual
says it supports ddr2100 so I'm pretty stumped. I have updated my bios
it is running version 1011. Anyone have any ideas? I'd appreciate any
help! Thanks!


Do you have a Dell dude? :)

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_______________________________________________________________________

Do people who spend $2.00 apiece for those little bottles of Evian water
know that spelling Evian backwards gives the word Naive?

Senex
 
N

Neocamel

No. Its a homebuilt. I'm assuming that this is the problem. Because
the ram is registered, my mobo is not happy with using it?
 
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Senex

Neocamel rattled this off his keyboard on 10/11/2006 :
No. Its a homebuilt. I'm assuming that this is the problem. Because
the ram is registered, my mobo is not happy with using it?

You got it.
 
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Lez Pawl

Neocamel said:
I'm assuming by dosh you me dough. and i've known this guy for 12
years. We lived down the street from each other growing up. If it is
faulty, he will give me my money back. But I believe him. I watched
him take the sticks out of another rig before he gave it to me. I just
want to make sure it is definetly the ram before I give it back to him.
He sold it to me for 30 bucks. I challange anyone to find 2 GIGS of
ram for that price!

Yes it is a bit steep for faulty ram.
 
N

Neocamel

I think we've determined that it probably isn't faulty. But because
its registered it does not want to work on my system. Oh well, I'll
ebay it and make 150$ profit
 
P

Paul

Neocamel said:
No. Its a homebuilt. I'm assuming that this is the problem. Because
the ram is registered, my mobo is not happy with using it?

Bingo. Registered will not work.

And the funny part is, the motherboard might have given the
faulty RAM beep code, but due to a BIOS hack that Asus did
back for those boards, they disabled beeping and that might
be why it didn't beep when it should have :)

You cannot use registered RAM in an 865/875 based Intel
board. Check the Crucial site to see what they would sell
you: The RAM will not be burnt, as the BIOS will read
the tiny SPD chip on the module first, before doing any
cycles on it. The BIOS will refuse to touch it. Normally
a good BIOS will beep at this point, but depending on what
BIOS version you are using, they might have the "disable
USB beep" hack in the BIOS.

(It is all unbuffered DDR ram...)
http://www.crucial.com/store/listpa...s&mfr=ASUS&tabid=AM&model=P4P800+SE&submit=Go

Paul
 
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Michael Cecil

Hello all.
I recently baught 2 1-gig ram sticks from a friend an when I
installed them, nothing happens. The comp turns on, but nothing
happens after that. Ive tried putting the ram in all combinations in
all four of my ram slots, (I have an ASUS p4p800SE) but to no avail.
I've tried only putting one of the sticks in, still nothing. My friend
told me the ram works. The ram is Samsung Dell Memory ddr2100r. When
I put my old ram in (2x 256gig) it works just fine. My mobo manual
says it supports ddr2100 so I'm pretty stumped. I have updated my bios
it is running version 1011. Anyone have any ideas? I'd appreciate any
help! Thanks!

DDR PC2100 RAM is not the same as DDR PC2100r. The "r" stands for
"registered" and means the RAM is ECC (usually intended for servers).

The P4P800-SE can't use registered RAM. In fact, since the keying is
different, I'm surprised you could install it. Must have used the "smash
to fit" method.
 
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Neocamel

Thank for both of the last two posts. very helpful. I'm pretty sure
the keying is the same believe it or not because it did fit fine. I no
longer employ the "smash to fit" method because, like most people who
no longer try this, was burned. Try cracking a motherboard by trying
to remove a processor heatsink and you'd stop being so rough as well!!!
So since we have determined that the ram will not work on my computer,
what computers would it work on? I'm thinking about selling it on
ebay. But I dont want to sell it to someone who will have the same
problems as I have had. I suppose that as long as I put all the
specifications of the ram on the ad, as well as mentioning "as-is" and
"untested" I really cant be held accountable for someone buying ram
that wont work on their rig. Good idea???
 
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Senex

Neocamel stunned us with this revelation on 10/11/2006 :

Thank for both of the last two posts. very helpful. I'm pretty sure
the keying is the same believe it or not because it did fit fine. I no
longer employ the "smash to fit" method because, like most people who
no longer try this, was burned. Try cracking a motherboard by trying
to remove a processor heatsink and you'd stop being so rough as well!!!
So since we have determined that the ram will not work on my computer,
what computers would it work on? I'm thinking about selling it on
ebay. But I dont want to sell it to someone who will have the same
problems as I have had. I suppose that as long as I put all the
specifications of the ram on the ad, as well as mentioning "as-is" and
"untested" I really cant be held accountable for someone buying ram
that wont work on their rig. Good idea???

Nod
 
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Neocamel

Senex said:
Neocamel stunned us with this revelation on 10/11/2006 :



Nod


Well thanks for the advice. I appreciate everyone's help on this thing
here. I figure case is pretty much closed, unless you all want to know
what it ends up going for on Ebay?
 
D

DonLogan

Neocamel said:
Thank for both of the last two posts. very helpful. I'm pretty sure
the keying is the same believe it or not because it did fit fine. I no
longer employ the "smash to fit" method because, like most people who
no longer try this, was burned. Try cracking a motherboard by trying
to remove a processor heatsink and you'd stop being so rough as well!!!
So since we have determined that the ram will not work on my computer,
what computers would it work on? I'm thinking about selling it on
ebay. But I dont want to sell it to someone who will have the same
problems as I have had. I suppose that as long as I put all the
specifications of the ram

does that include what mbs it does & doesn't work with?
 
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Lez Pawl

Neocamel said:
I think we've determined that it probably isn't faulty. But because
its registered it does not want to work on my system. Oh well, I'll
ebay it and make 150$ profit

don't forget to be honest in your description and clearly state it does not
work in your system..........
 
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Lez Pawl

Neocamel said:
Thank for both of the last two posts. very helpful. I'm pretty sure
the keying is the same believe it or not because it did fit fine. I no
longer employ the "smash to fit" method because, like most people who
no longer try this, was burned. Try cracking a motherboard by trying
to remove a processor heatsink and you'd stop being so rough as well!!!
So since we have determined that the ram will not work on my computer,
what computers would it work on? I'm thinking about selling it on
ebay. But I dont want to sell it to someone who will have the same
problems as I have had. I suppose that as long as I put all the
specifications of the ram on the ad, as well as mentioning "as-is" and
"untested" I really cant be held accountable for someone buying ram
that wont work on their rig. Good idea???

just like your "friend" did.
 

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