New Intel 64 bit processors

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Just checking to see what everyone thinks about the new Intel processors.

Anyone think it will be worth buying right now or holding off until they
drop in price?
 
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Just checking to see what everyone thinks about the new Intel
processors.

Anyone think it will be worth buying right now or holding off until
they drop in price?
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As Jupiter said this probably isn't the best place to ask but I use an AMD64
here and the legacy support is good though not great. I've had to monkey
with drivers a few times and can't get Windows ME to work very well but it
does run quickly. Your question isn't one I can answer nor can anyone else
regardless of where you post it. The questions I ask you to ask yourself is
do you want it? Can you afford it? Will it benefit you? If the answer is yes
to anyone of those questions or any that you make up on your own then it's
up to you to get one. I own three 64 bit CPUs here and like them all but I
actually find the AMD 3200 to be speedy enough and this, my main computer,
is that.

Galen
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"My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me
the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am
in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial
stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for
mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes
 
Galen,

What are "speedy" differences do you notice from your 3200 compare to a
Pentium 4 processor?
 
Rodger said:
Just checking to see what everyone thinks about the new Intel processors.

Anyone think it will be worth buying right now or holding off until they
drop in price?
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They are Intel, that is enough to leave them well alone.

The AMD 64bit is backwards compatible, not sure if ITel is.
Get a AMD, more power for your money.


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They are Intel, that is enough to leave them well alone.

The AMD 64bit is backwards compatible, not sure if ITel is.
Get a AMD, more power for your money.


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They are both backwards compatitible. AMD invented the AMD64
architecure, Intel just "copied" it and called it EM64T. You probably
meant Itanium, which isn't backwards compatitible and has almost nothing
to do with x86.

Either you buy Intel or AMD, you can't go wrong. There's a 64 bit
Windows XP version coming out soon and I guess developers will then
focus more on x86-64.
 
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Galen,

What are "speedy" differences do you notice from your 3200 compare to
a Pentium 4 processor?
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Well, for example, this computer has been up and running since last Patch
Tuesday (in fact that's about the only time it re-boot) it's stable and
fast. I've played with a few P4's but I completely gave up on them after
running a benchmark on a P4 2.7 GHz and seeing the results compared to the
AMD that I'd bought as a lark. I had stopped buying AMD way back after the
K6 II for a while as the Intel chips were much speedier for a while. I'm not
brand specific, I'm performance specific. The P4 is great if you're a gamer
as the graphics render faster or so they tell me. I generally am looking for
a combination of speed and price. In the AMD I find that compiling goes a
heck of a lot faster and there's generally fewer errors generated during the
operation which is why I stick with it.

I think that if I were a gamer I'd go with one of the HT models.

Galen
--

"My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me
the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am
in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial
stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for
mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes
 
In
sorry O/T, but I must compliment you on your signature
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A Conan Doyle quote is almost always in my signature even if I have to make
my signature even larger to fit more informatioin in. I must often wonder
what the man was really like to have been knighted, to be able to write
about such vast subjects and still seem educated, and to have the
imagination that he had. Remarkable really. You can read his bio here:

http://www.sherlockholmesonline.org/Biography/index.htm

Galen
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"My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me
the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am
in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial
stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for
mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes
 
Matej said:
They are both backwards compatitible. AMD invented the AMD64
architecure, Intel just "copied" it and called it EM64T. You probably
meant Itanium, which isn't backwards compatitible and has almost nothing
to do with x86.
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Either you buy Intel or AMD, you can't go wrong. There's a 64 bit
Windows XP version coming out soon and I guess developers will then
focus more on x86-64.
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I am not even sure if I am staying with the P.C platform, to be honest I
am getting fed up with it and I think it is time to move to something else.
I want my Amiga back :-)

If I do stay with the P.c and upgrade, then I would upgrade to an AMD
64, I will not touch Intel with a barge pole.

But if I can get an Apple Mac at a decent price, then I may be tempted
to cross over.


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Why would you buy a chip that is manufactured as an afterthought, and does
not have half the improvements that the AMD64 chips offer? It will be
months before Intels 64 bit chips can even hope to begin competing against
AMD64s, and the Intels run slower and hotter. Their core clocks are slower,
so the "compensated" by increasing L2 cache, but the L1/L2 on and Intel is
still inclusive, while with the AMD64 it is exclusive. Add to the mix that
Microsoft is using AMD64 3200+ as their reference chip in development of
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, and you have a no-brainer decision;
the clear leader and only choice is AMD64.
FWIW, this is not a troll post...but I am looking forward to the near
certain rash of "AMD64 sucks" posts form the Intel fanboys...

Bobby
 
You actually have it backwards. AMD64's are usually better for gaming, while
P4's with HT are better at desktop apps. My P4 at work is much more
responsive to MS office tasks when I have many windows open. My AMD64 at
home seems pokey by comparison. However, it smokes the P4 in games (with
identical vid cards.)
 
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You actually have it backwards. AMD64's are usually better for
gaming, while P4's with HT are better at desktop apps. My P4 at work
is much more responsive to MS office tasks when I have many windows
open. My AMD64 at home seems pokey by comparison. However, it smokes
the P4 in games (with identical vid cards.)
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http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030623/p4_3200-07.html

Galen
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"My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me
the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am
in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial
stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for
mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes
 
Rodger said:
Just checking to see what everyone thinks about the new Intel processors.

Anyone think it will be worth buying right now or holding off until they
drop in price?
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I would not go with Intel 64 bit processors until they have been proven.
AMD makes the best 64 bit processors available now.

R.
 
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AD said:
Ignore anything from there, he is so Pro-Intel, that you would think
he got shares in the compnay.
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LOL He's always seemed pro Intel but I don't think he'd go ahead and fudge
the benchmarks. I looked for another site that had similar reports in a
side-by-side but couldn't find the one which I had used prior to making my
choice though initial choices were made back in the AMD XP vs the Intel 2.2
GHz models. I've stuck with AMD since, should HT prove to be interesting and
stable I'll look into one of them eventually as well as the 64 bit systems
from Intel later on in life but I have to stop buying so much hardware, I'm
running out of time to test it all...

Galen

--

"My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me
the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am
in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial
stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for
mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes
 
Galen said:
LOL He's always seemed pro Intel but I don't think he'd go ahead and fudge
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I would not put it past anyone these days.

the benchmarks. I looked for another site that had similar reports in a
side-by-side but couldn't find the one which I had used prior to making my
choice though initial choices were made back in the AMD XP vs the Intel 2.2
GHz models. I've stuck with AMD since, should HT prove to be interesting and
stable I'll look into one of them eventually as well as the 64 bit systems
from Intel later on in life but I have to stop buying so much hardware, I'm
running out of time to test it all..
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I am staying with AMD, I have used AMd for years and unless I changed
platforms, I can not see myself buying an Intel. I have given it a rest
now for a while buying hardware. You can go on forever and there is also
the money problem.
I may upgrade sometime this year or I may just stay with the AMD 2500xp
chip I got now, after all, it does the job.
 
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AD said:
I am staying with AMD, I have used AMd for years and unless I changed
platforms, I can not see myself buying an Intel. I have given it a
rest now for a while buying hardware. You can go on forever and there
is also the money problem.
I may upgrade sometime this year or I may just stay with the AMD
2500xp chip I got now, after all, it does the job.
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I suppose someone might fudge the benchmarks but either way I've been
impressed with this the AMD Athlon XP 3200+...

It's fast enough, stable enough, and though it seems to run a bit hotter
than I'd like but that doesn't seem to bother it. The only thing I have
cooling that chip is a Thermaltake Volcano 8 sink and a fan. Maybe I should
look into a different cooling supply at some point? I'm not too worried
about it though. I'll stick with AMD until I'm given evidence to support
changing to a different manufacturer. As for the 64 bit, I'd only use the
AMD64 at this point. I do want to check out an HT though as I've not had the
chance to do so yet.

Galen
--

"My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me
the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am
in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial
stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for
mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes
 
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