Networking ME and XP

[jhebron]

I am running ME and XP and I can't get them to share files. I am running a
Linysys cable modem and Linksys router. I can get the Internet on both
computers no problem, they just wont see each other to share files and
printers. Is the firewall in XP Service Pak 2 stopping them from anything.
I also have Norton Security and Anti-virus on each computer. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.

 

[JAD]

if you got as far as the FW settings in XP, you should have seen that when
enabled it will stop sharing in most caeses. Especially when using the same
nic to access the internet and the lan

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

I am running ME and XP and I can't get them to share files. I am running a
Linysys cable modem and Linksys router. I can get the Internet on both
computers no problem, they just wont see each other to share files and
printers. Is the firewall in XP Service Pak 2 stopping them from anything.
I also have Norton Security and Anti-virus on each computer. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.

If the XP computer is running Norton Internet Security, you must
disable the built-in Windows Firewall. Running both of them will
cause network problems.

Configure Norton to allow access by other computers on the local area
network.
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[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

if you got as far as the FW settings in XP, you should have seen that when
enabled it will stop sharing in most caeses. Especially when using the same
nic to access the internet and the lan

The Windows Firewall in XP Service Pack 2 is designed to allow file
and printer sharing on the local area network. This is different than
the Internet Connection Firewall in earlier versions of XP.

In the Windows Firewall properties, click the General tab and set the
mode to "On (recommended)". Then, click the Exceptions tab and make
sure that there's a check mark in the box for File and Printer
Sharing.
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[Z]

If the XP computer is running Norton Internet Security, you must
disable the built-in Windows Firewall. Running both of them will
cause network problems.

Configure Norton to allow access by other computers on the local area
network.

Geez, even better ... if you have XP SP2, dump Norton Internet
Security completely.

 

[James Egan]

In the Windows Firewall properties, click the General tab and set the
mode to "On (recommended)". Then, click the Exceptions tab and make
sure that there's a check mark in the box for File and Printer
Sharing.

On my network here, I had to do this to get a LAN connection even
though LAN was unchecked on the advanced tab.

I was wanting to enable the firewall only for the dialup interface (a
standby Internet connection) but not for the LAN which is already
private behind a router.

If I leave the advanced tab with just the dialup checked, I can kiss
goodbye to LAN connectivity unless I either disable the firewall
completely on all interfaces or make file and printer sharing an
exception on a (supposedly) already disabled interface. Surely I
shouldn't need to do that?


Jim.

 

[Mark Lloyd]

On my network here, I had to do this to get a LAN connection even
though LAN was unchecked on the advanced tab.

I was wanting to enable the firewall only for the dialup interface (a
standby Internet connection) but not for the LAN which is already
private behind a router.

It's better to have a software firewall, even with a router. Consider
what happens with OUTGOING connections, such as those from spyware.

If I leave the advanced tab with just the dialup checked, I can kiss
goodbye to LAN connectivity unless I either disable the firewall
completely on all interfaces or make file and printer sharing an
exception on a (supposedly) already disabled interface. Surely I
shouldn't need to do that?


Jim.

Still, I would never trust the XP firewall. MS is going to put in all
the "holes" it wants.

 

[Tony]

Geez, even better ... if you have XP SP2, dump Norton Internet
Security completely.

Or ,even better than that ... turn off the (nearly useless) XP
firewall and use Norton.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Or ,even better than that ... turn off the (nearly useless) XP
firewall and use Norton.

Have you looked at the new Windows Firewall in Service Pack 2? It's
much better than the Internet Connection Firewall in earlier versions
of Windows XP.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Mark Lloyd]

Have you looked at the new Windows Firewall in Service Pack 2? It's
much better than the Internet Connection Firewall in earlier versions
of Windows XP.

Irrelevant. It's still a bad idea to trust MS here. A lot of the
undesirable connections are originated by Windows.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

On my network here, I had to do this to get a LAN connection even
though LAN was unchecked on the advanced tab.

I was wanting to enable the firewall only for the dialup interface (a
standby Internet connection) but not for the LAN which is already
private behind a router.

If I leave the advanced tab with just the dialup checked, I can kiss
goodbye to LAN connectivity unless I either disable the firewall
completely on all interfaces or make file and printer sharing an
exception on a (supposedly) already disabled interface. Surely I
shouldn't need to do that?


Jim.

Jim, make sure that "Don't allow exceptions" is un-checked on the
General tab. That's an all-or-nothing setting. If it's checked, all
connections are firewalled, regardless of the settings on the Advanced
tab.

To enable the firewall on the dial-up connection and disable the
firewall on the LAN connection:

1. Go to the Exceptions tab.
2. Un-check all of the boxes.
3. Go to the Advanced tab.
4. Check the dial-up connection and un-check the LAN connection.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[James Egan]

Jim, make sure that "Don't allow exceptions" is un-checked on the
General tab. That's an all-or-nothing setting. If it's checked, all
connections are firewalled, regardless of the settings on the Advanced
tab.

This is unchecked.

To enable the firewall on the dial-up connection and disable the
firewall on the LAN connection:

1. Go to the Exceptions tab.
2. Un-check all of the boxes.
3. Go to the Advanced tab.
4. Check the dial-up connection and un-check the LAN connection.

It doesn't work doing this, Steve. Even after restoring defaults,
starting again and following your instructions to the letter.

If file and printer sharing (exceptions) is unchecked, I can't even
ping the computer. As soon as I tick this box and click ok it all
works. Pinging, browsing et al.

That's no use for the dialup connection, though, since file and
printer sharing is the main thing I want to block on that interface.


Jim.

 

[James Egan]

1. Go to the Exceptions tab.
2. Un-check all of the boxes.
3. Go to the Advanced tab.
4. Check the dial-up connection and un-check the LAN connection.

I've resolved the problem but I don't know what was the cause.

I system restored to a point prior to installing sp2 and then
re-installed sp2. Now the firewall is behaving in the manner you
posted. Strange that isn't it? Looks like sp2 is as prone to silent
failure as some of the earlier patches.



Jim.

 

[Fred Marshall]

Make sure that the ME computer doesn't have NetBEUI or IPX installed
(network protocols).
If it does, get rid of them on all the computers.
TCP/IP is not only "enough" it is often necessary that it be "alone".

You must have the same protocol working for file sharing, etc.
From experience, I believe that installing NetBEUI on an ME machine (that
already has TCP/IP) will cause an XP machine with only TCP/IP installed to
disappear from the ME machine's network neighborhood. It's as if NetBEUI
has taken priority for being the protocol of choice and, since it doesn't
exist on the XP machine, can't share.
Removing NetBEUI is much preferable to having it installed all over the
place.

Fred

 

[Don Turner]

Make sure that the ME computer doesn't have NetBEUI or IPX installed
(network protocols).
If it does, get rid of them on all the computers.
TCP/IP is not only "enough" it is often necessary that it be "alone".

You must have the same protocol working for file sharing, etc.
From experience, I believe that installing NetBEUI on an ME machine (that
already has TCP/IP) will cause an XP machine with only TCP/IP installed to
disappear from the ME machine's network neighborhood. It's as if NetBEUI
has taken priority for being the protocol of choice and, since it doesn't
exist on the XP machine, can't share.
Removing NetBEUI is much preferable to having it installed all over the
place.

Fred

I noticed no one mentioned the workgroup names on your network ideally
should be the same. Also enable netbios over TCP-IP on the XP box.
The Win ME workgroup name change can be done by rt clicking on network
places, select properties then identification. WinXP is similar ,
just click on the network ID button and you will find where to change
the workgp name. To enable Netbios on the XP box get into control
panel - select network, rt click on LAN connection , click on TCP-IP
- select properties. click the ADVANCED button select the WINS tab.
Near the bottom of this window is a tick to enable netbios.

Good luck

 

[Carey]

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Carey

I noticed no one mentioned the workgroup names on your network ideally
should be the same. Also enable netbios over TCP-IP on the XP box.
The Win ME workgroup name change can be done by rt clicking on network
places, select properties then identification. WinXP is similar ,
just click on the network ID button and you will find where to change
the workgp name. To enable Netbios on the XP box get into control
panel - select network, rt click on LAN connection , click on TCP-IP
- select properties. click the ADVANCED button select the WINS tab.
Near the bottom of this window is a tick to enable netbios.

Good luck