Network XP PC to 98 PC problem

[Blair]

My network uses a crossover cable connection
I have found that I can transfer files from my laptop(XP) to my desktop(98)
Both PC appear on the laptop network
The desktop only shows the desktop on the desktop network.
The desktop can access the internet through the laptop via Internet Explorer
But accessing Outlook Express leads to a dialup window which has a padlock
and key shown.This dialup should not be necessary so I guess it is something
to do with security. The error report states that my password was rejected
"Invalid login/password pair"
My main problem is adding the laptop to the desktop network so that I can
transfer form the desktop to the laptop
Blair

 

[Robert L [MS-MVP]]

create a same logon name and password in the both computers. or enable guest
account on xp.

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[Guest]

I've have the same transfer problem, (thanks) and, given that I want to
transfer a bunch of stuff from a legacy PC to a new one, can I drag and drop
or otherwise move the contents of the old C drive to the new C drive and thus
keep the old settings and shortcuts that enabled the old programs to work on
the old pc?

Thanks,

*******

 

[Malke]

I've have the same transfer problem, (thanks) and, given that I want
to transfer a bunch of stuff from a legacy PC to a new one, can I drag
and drop or otherwise move the contents of the old C drive to the new
C drive and thus keep the old settings and shortcuts that enabled the
old programs to work on the old pc?

No. You would need to install the programs on XP from the installation
media (cd-rom, installation executable). You can copy over the data,
though or leave it on the slave drive and use it that way.

Malke

 

[Guest]

So now my Office 97 Upgrade CD won't work because I don't have any Office on
the new PC and I have no way to install my 25 floppy-disk AutoCAD R13 because
I have no floppy drive on my new PC? Ditto all the other floppy-resident
legacy stuff, a good bit of what I have on the old PC?

Of course, that wasn't what the salesman told me when he sold me the
ethernet card and cable and said "no sweat".

 

[Malke]

So now my Office 97 Upgrade CD won't work because I don't have any
Office on the new PC and I have no way to install my 25 floppy-disk
AutoCAD R13 because
I have no floppy drive on my new PC? Ditto all the other
floppy-resident legacy stuff, a good bit of what I have on the old PC?

Of course, that wasn't what the salesman told me when he sold me the
ethernet card and cable and said "no sweat".

Sounds like it. If you can't afford to buy MS Office, then look into
getting OpenOffice (www.openoffice.org) which is free or Sun's Star
Office which is reasonable. If you only need MS Word, you can also buy
it separately. Are you sure that version of AutoCAD will work on XP?
You should check that on the software mftr.'s website first. If it will
work on XP, buy a usb external floppy drive (about $40usd) or put in an
internal floppy drive (about $15usd).

Malke

 

[Guest]

Thanks, Malke, good advice.

I've looked at the Autodeask site and it seems AutoCAD R13 is OK on XP.

Another possibility is to try to use my old xls and doc files in MS Works
word processor and spreadsheet. Looks like that might be possible, given
Works is obviously Office light, but Works looks as though it could be fit
to purpose.

 

[Guest]

Another seditious thought:

If I put the old PC somewhere upstairs, not networked to the new one by a
cable, but each sharing the same dial-up phone line, can I send "myself" (new
system downstairs) an internet attachment (for printing, say, or to migrate
large files). Internet attachments can be reasonably large these days, so if
I can send myself a large attached file, that might save the need to do
manual transfer by way of multiple floppy disks.

Probably too good to be real, but what the hey.

 

[Malke]

Another seditious thought:

If I put the old PC somewhere upstairs, not networked to the new one
by a cable, but each sharing the same dial-up phone line, can I send
"myself" (new system downstairs) an internet attachment (for printing,
say, or to migrate
large files). Internet attachments can be reasonably large these
days, so if I can send myself a large attached file, that might save
the need to do manual transfer by way of multiple floppy disks.

The problem with MS Works programs is that the format is very
proprietary and not easily convertible to anything else. I personally
would not suggest using Works if the files need to be shared with
anyone else (accountant, work colleagues, etc.). If the spreadsheets
are quite complex, it would be better to bite the bullet and buy Excel,
which you can also get separately. If these are just for your own use,
then OpenOffice is quite good and OO can save in MS Office formats.

I'm not sure what you want to send yourself and why. If you are thinking
about creating files in Works on the Win98 desktop and sending them to
the laptop which has a printer, then there are easier ways then email
attachments. Of course I don't know your setup, but here are two
suggestions in addition to the ones I already gave you in this and my
other posts:

1. Buy a cd-rw drive and install it on the Win98 desktop (around
$40usd). Burn whatever you need and sneakernet it downstairs to your
laptop.

2. If this is just about printing, buy a printer for the desktop. You
can get a decent printer for $50-60usd; definitely under $100usd for
something fancier.

Malke

 

[mike]

So now my Office 97 Upgrade CD won't work because I don't have any Office on
the new PC

IF you have a legitimate legal copy of the precursor to office 97 on
your old machine, AND you delete 97 from the old machine, you're morally
ok in figuring out how to install 97 on your new machine. Whether the
lawyers agree is another matter. But I digress...
MS won't tell you how they determine whether you are allowed to install
an upgrade...but I'll bet a web search would turn up that information.

and I have no way to install my 25 floppy-disk AutoCAD R13 because

I have no floppy drive on my new PC?

Ordinarily, you can copy the contents of the floppies over the network
to your new machine and install from there. There probably are
exceptions, but I've never encountered one. I took all my old floppy
distributions and burned them on a CD so I wouldn't have this problem
in the future. Go visit a friend with a CD burner and a floppy

Unless you intend to have a system with floppy on your network, I'd put
a floppy in your system. Don't need it often, but when you do, you
REALLY need it. Trying to upgrade your BIOS without a floppy can be a
real trick.

mike

Ditto all the other floppy-resident

legacy stuff, a good bit of what I have on the old PC?

Of course, that wasn't what the salesman told me when he sold me the
ethernet card and cable and said "no sweat".

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