nero discspeed - erase vs format

[Eric Gisin]

DiscSpeed is a free download from Nero, which includes an erase function.

The dialog has both Erase and Format functions. What is the difference? SCSI MMC has ERASE.

One of my DVD+RW has a faint arc scratch, which shows up as hard errors at 3GB.
Should erase pick this up? The laser has to switch between read (tracking) and writing,
and can detect some flaws during the former.

 

[Rod Speed]

DiscSpeed is a free download from Nero, which includes an erase function.

The dialog has both Erase and Format functions. What is the difference?

RWs particularly do need to be formatted before they are used.

Thats not so visible with modern burner software because
it mostly does do the formatting for you when required
without you having to do it explicitly yourself.

Erasing is what you do after its been used previously, to get rid of what you have previously written.

SCSI MMC has ERASE.

Because the formatting is mostly done automatically with the writing now with most modern burner software.

One of my DVD+RW has a faint arc scratch, which shows up as hard errors at 3GB.

Should erase pick this up?

Pick it up in what sense, report the bad patch ?

The laser has to switch between read (tracking) and writing, and can detect some flaws during the former.

Yes, but a full verify is normally the best way to pick up physical problems.

Thats optional with most modern burner software.

 

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Mike Richter (Slimy Shit) crapped:

A disc needs to be formatted before it will permit drag-and-drop.

A "virgin" DVD+RW needs to be formatted prior to its use even for
mastering.

Erasing
is erasing and in itself does not format; in fact, it destroys
formatting if present.

DVD+RW does not support erasing. DVD+RW formatting does not get
destroyed.

Mikey, is there an end to your spreading misinformation?!

.
Any program which offers to format a disc should be fed one with nothing
recorded. Given the way it is done, formatting s/w will either refuse to
work on a disc with data or will make those data unreadable -
effectively if not actually erasing the disc.

Is this Mikey's wise words of the year?

 

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DiscSpeed is a free download from Nero, which includes an erase function.

The dialog has both Erase and Format functions. What is the difference?
SCSI MMC has ERASE.

Don't know.

One of my DVD+RW has a faint arc scratch, which shows up as hard errors at 3GB.
Should erase pick this up? The laser has to switch between read (tracking) and > writing, and can detect some flaws during the former.

What you need is defect management. UDF 1.5 and up have the feature. Try
InCD formatting with UDF 1.5 and UDF 2.01, and pick the one that does
better defect management.

 

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Mike Richter (Slimy Shit) crapped:

A "virgin" DVD+RW needs to be formatted prior to its use even for
mastering.

There are two formattings: (udf) formatting and (plain) formatting.
DVD+RW needs to be (plain) formatted prior to its use. (udf) formatting
is built on top of (plain) formatting.

DVD+RW does not support erasing. DVD+RW formatting does not get
destroyed.

DVD+RW spec does not support erasing. However, this does not prevent
software/burner to implement some sort of erase functionality.

In any event, the (plain) formatting does not get erased.

The rationale behind DVD+RW not supporting erasing is that it is not
necessary (as overwriting does it). It only unnecessarily takes away one
cycle from the overwritability.

 

[Ed Light]

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[smh]

'
Ed Light (Mikey S-licker) squealed:

Your smears make your info. suspect.

No charge of libel?

 

[Ed Light]

'
Ed Light (Mikey S-licker) squealed:

I'm now a very proud "Mikey S-licker". Moving up in the world.

As to having to format DVD+RW's before mastering -- heh -- should I make
up some thuggish thing about you? Nope.

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[smh]

I'm now a very proud "Mikey S-licker". Moving up in the world.

As to having to format DVD+RW's before mastering -- heh -- should I make
up some thuggish thing about you? Nope.

Again, no charge of libel?

With Nero, burn a mastering session on a 'virgin' DVD+RW. Watch the burn
progress message pane. You should see:

"Start formatting disc before burning"
"Formatting disc was successful"
"Start write address at LBA 0"

(See NeroHistory.log if you missed them.)

There is no separate step for (plain) formatting. Nero automatically
does it before burning.

(Refrained from saying some 'thuggish' things about you here.)

 

[Ed Light]

Again, no charge of libel?

With Nero, burn a mastering session on a 'virgin' DVD+RW. Watch the burn
progress message pane. You should see:

"Start formatting disc before burning"
"Formatting disc was successful"
"Start write address at LBA 0"

(See NeroHistory.log if you missed them.)

There is no separate step for (plain) formatting. Nero automatically
does it before burning.

(Refrained from saying some 'thuggish' things about you here.)

Thanks.

I'm afraid I haven't got a DVD+RW handy.

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[Ed Light]

With Nero, burn a mastering session on a 'virgin' DVD+RW. Watch the burn
progress message pane. You should see:

"Start formatting disc before burning"

Is that like a quick format, or is it a drawn-out process?

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[The Kat]

WHY in the **** are you both..

A) Responding to this asshat troll, AND

B) Leaving the BULLSHIT subjectline intact??

Dumbass!



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[Ed Light]

WHY in the **** are you both..

A) Responding to this asshat troll, AND

B) Leaving the BULLSHIT subjectline intact??

Dumbass!

No, I did not write that.

More agression. Guys, it's just little disks. Too many coasters?

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(No Mikey S-lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above )
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Is that like a quick format, or is it a drawn-out process?

Quick format:

"Media-Format will be stopped after burning"

 

[Ed Light]

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(No Mikey S-lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above )
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Quick format:

"Media-Format will be stopped after burning"

OK.

Well, since the smear banner is still there, I'll filter you out so I
don't have to see it. So long.

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[smh]

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http://tinyurl.com/gqnae

(No Mikey S-lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above )
(is a LIBEL -- despite Mikey claimed to have PROOF of libels!)
'

Ed Light (Mikey S-licker) squeaked:

Well, since the smear banner is still there,

Again, no charge of libel?

.
I'll filter you out so I
don't have to see it. So long.

You are hurting my feelings !?

 

[Squeeze]

The Kat wrote in news:[email protected]

WHY in the **** are you both..

A) Responding to this asshat troll, AND

B) Leaving the BULLSHIT subjectline intact??

Isn't it rather obvious?

Dumbass!

Dumbass yourself.

 

[smh]

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The Kat (Dumbass) screamed (8/10/08):

Ed Light (Mikey S-licker) slurped:

WHY in the **** are you both..

B) Leaving the BULLSHIT subjectline intact??

Dumbass!

If "Mike Richter's Cockamamie Mumbo Jumbo on DVD (format/erase)" is
bullshit, isn't "Mike Richter's Cockamamie Mumbo Jumbo on DVD
Multisession (standard)" also bullshit?

Calling yourself dumbass!

======================
From: Kram
Date: 8/1/08

Subject: Mike Richter's Cockamamie Mumbo Jumbo
on DVD Multisession (standard)

======================

 

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Mike Richter (Slimy Shit) crapped:

A "virgin" DVD+RW needs to be formatted prior to its use even for
mastering.

There are two formattings: (udf) formatting and (plain) formatting.
DVD+RW needs to be (plain) formatted prior to its use. (udf) formatting
is built on top of (plain) formatting.

When Nero burns a mastering session on a 'virgin' DVD+RW:

"Start formatting disc before burning"
"Formatting disc was successful"
"Start write address at LBA 0"

DVD+RW does not support erasing. DVD+RW formatting does not get
destroyed.

DVD+RW specification does not support erasing. However, this does not
prevent software/burner to implement some sort of "erase" functionality.

In any event, the (plain) formatting does not get erased.

The rationale behind DVD+RW not supporting erasing is that it is not
necessary (as overwriting does it). It only unnecessarily takes away one
cycle from the overwritability.