Need Help Removing Popuppers.com spam

[fc676]

Hello,

Can't seem to find a cure for these popuppers.com windows that pop up every
so often. Below is the log from Hijackthis. Just don't know what to remove
or what I should do next. Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Ahead\InCD\InCDsrv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Ahead\InCD\InCD.exe
C:\WINDOWS\sfcwdv.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\VERIZO~1\SMARTB~1\MotiveSB.exe
C:\WINDOWS\medload.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
C:\Program Files\Energizer FileSaver\Energizer FileSaver.exe
C:\Program Files\InterVideo\Common\Bin\WinCinemaMgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\wkcalrem.exe
C:\Program Files\Palm\HOTSYNC.EXE
C:\Program Files\Verizon Online\bin\mpbtn.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\MsPMSPSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Frank\Desktop\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
http://cgi.verizon.net/bookmarks/bmredir.asp?region=all&bw=dsl&cd=6.0&bm=ho_search
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
http://www.yahoo.com/
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Window Title = Microsoft
Internet Explorer provided by Verizon Online
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet
Settings,ProxyOverride = 127.0.0.1
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page_bak =
http://www.yahoo.com/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,SearchAssistant =
about:blank
R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - _{707E6F76-9FFB-4920-A976-EA101271BC25} -
(no file)
F2 - REG:system.ini:
UserInit=C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe,C:\Windows\System32\wsaupdater.exe,
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.ocx
O2 - BHO: CCHelper - {0CF0B8EE-6596-11D5-A98E-0003470BB48E} - C:\Program
Files\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Companion\CCHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\Program
Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
c:\windows\googletoolbar1.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {AEECBFDA-12FA-4881-BDCE-8C3E1CE4B344} -
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvms.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {CE188402-6EE7-4022-8868-AB25173A3E14} -
C:\WINDOWS\system32\mscb.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {F4E04583-354E-4076-BE7D-ED6A80FD66DA} -
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msbe.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Pop-Up Stopper &Companion -
{8F05B1A8-9D77-4B8F-AF54-6B2202066F95} - C:\Program Files\Panicware\Pop-Up
Stopper Companion\popupus.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} -
c:\windows\googletoolbar1.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [InCD] C:\Program Files\Ahead\InCD\InCD.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Windows SA] C:\Program Files\WindowsSA\omniscient.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WindUpdates] C:\Program Files\WindUpdates\WinUpdt.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [cklxlwv] C:\WINDOWS\sfcwdv.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Motive SmartBridge]
C:\PROGRA~1\VERIZO~1\SMARTB~1\MotiveSB.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [loads.exe] C:\WINDOWS\medload.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program
Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - Startup: HotSync Manager.lnk = C:\Program Files\Palm\HOTSYNC.EXE
O4 - Startup: PowerReg Scheduler V3.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Energizer FileSaver.lnk = C:\Program Files\Energizer
FileSaver\Energizer FileSaver.exe
O4 - Global Startup: InterVideo WinCinema Manager.lnk = C:\Program
Files\InterVideo\Common\Bin\WinCinemaMgr.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office\OSA9.EXE
O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Works Calendar Reminders.lnk = ?
O4 - Global Startup: Verizon Online Support Center.lnk = C:\Program
Files\Verizon Online\bin\matcli.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search -
res://c:\windows\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links -
res://c:\windows\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page -
res://c:\windows\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages -
res://c:\windows\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English -
res://c:\windows\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: Real.com (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger (HKLM)
O16 - DPF: ppctlcab - http://www.pestscan.com/scanner/ppctlcab.cab
O16 - DPF: {02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B} (QuickTime Object) -
http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab
O16 - DPF: {11260943-421B-11D0-8EAC-0000C07D88CF} (iPIX ActiveX Control) -
http://www.ipix.com/viewers/ipixx.cab
O16 - DPF: {14B87622-7E19-4EA8-93B3-97215F77A6BC} (MessengerStatsClient
Class) -
http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MessengerStatsPAClient.cab27571.cab
O16 - DPF: {15AD4789-CDB4-47E1-A9DA-992EE8E6BAD6} -
http://public.windupdates.com/get_f...842869220dcf:31e1e886df05c54f80cdc9defbb7eddc
O16 - DPF: {166B1BCA-3F9C-11CF-8075-444553540000} (Shockwave ActiveX
Control) -
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/director/swdir.cab
O16 - DPF: {30528230-99F7-4BB4-88D8-FA1D4F56A2AB} (YInstStarter Class) -
http://download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/yinst.cab
O16 - DPF: {33288993-5664-11D4-8B5B-00D0B73B3518} (ell Class) -
http://www.easports.com/downloads/games/common/ieell.cab
O16 - DPF: {41F17733-B041-4099-A042-B518BB6A408C} -
http://a1540.g.akamai.net/7/1540/52...pple.com/borris/us/win/QuickTimeInstaller.exe
O16 - DPF: {54B52E52-8000-4413-BD67-FC7FE24B59F2} (EARTPatchX Class) -
http://files.ea.com/downloads/rtpatch/v2/EARTPX.cab
O16 - DPF: {8EDAD21C-3584-4E66-A8AB-EB0E5584767D} -
http://toolbar.google.com/data/GoogleActivate.cab
O16 - DPF: {924C1588-90C3-4910-B6CA-D57A1C0418FE} (YbUploadFavsCtl Class) -
http://download.yahoo.com/dl/bookmarks/ybconvfav030408.cab
O16 - DPF: {9600F64D-755F-11D4-A47F-0001023E6D5A} (Shutterfly Picture Upload
Plugin) - http://web1.shutterfly.com/downloads/Uploader.cab
O16 - DPF: {9F1C11AA-197B-4942-BA54-47A8489BB47F} -
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/CAB/x86/unicode/iuctl.CAB?37679.5872569444
O16 - DPF: {A8658086-E6AC-4957-BC8E-7D54A7E8A78E} (SassCln Object) -
http://www.microsoft.com/security/controls/SassCln.CAB
O16 - DPF: {C606BA60-AB76-48B6-96A7-2C4D5C386F70} (PreQualifier Class) -
http://www.verizon.net/checkmypc/includes/MotivePreQual.cab
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) -
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab
O16 - DPF: {DE22A7AB-A739-4C58-AD52-21F9CD6306B7} (CTAdjust Class) -
http://download.microsoft.com/download/Typography/Utility/2.0b/WXP/EN-US/clearadj.cab
O16 - DPF: {E0CE16CB-741C-4B24-8D04-A817856E07F4} -
http://cabs.media-motor.net/cabs/downplain.cab
O16 - DPF: {EAA105FE-7BBD-4196-8B96-D46743894195} (MjpegControl Class) -
http://216.86.39.250/plugin/mjpegcontrol.cab

 

[David H. Lipman]

1) Download the following three items...

Trend Sysclean Package
http://www.trendmicro.com/download/dcs.asp

Latest Trend signature files.
http://www.trendmicro.com/download/pattern.asp

Adaware SE (personal free version)
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/

Create a directory.
On drive "C:\"
(e.g., "c:\New Folder")
or the desktop
(e.g., "C:\Documents and Settings\lipman\Desktop\New Folder")

Download sysclean.com and place it in that directory.
Dowload the signature files (pattern files) by obtaining the ZIP file.
For example; lpt224.zip

Extract the contents of the ZIP file and place the contents in the same directory as
sysclean.com.

2) Update Adware with the latest definitions.
3) If you are using WinME or WinXP, disable System Restore
http://vil.nai.com/vil/SystemHelpDocs/DisableSysRestore.htm
4) Reboot your PC into Safe Mode
5) Using both the Trend Sysclean utility and Adaware, perform a Full Scan of your
platform and clean/delete any infectors/parasites found.
(a few cycles may be needed)
6) Restart your PC and perform a "final" Full Scan of your platform using both the
Trend Sysclean utility and Adaware
7) If you are using WinME or WinXP,Re-enable System Restore and re-apply any
System Restore preferences, (e.g. HD space to use suggested 400 ~ 600MB),
8) Reboot your PC.
9) If you are using WinME or WinXP, create a new Restore point

You can also try some of the below online scanners.

Trend:
http://housecall.antivirus.com
http://housecall.trendmicro.com

F-Secure:
http://support.f-secure.com/enu/home/ols.shtml

McAfee:
http://www.mcafee.com/myapps/mfs/default.asp

Panda:
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/

Kaspersky:
http://www.kaspersky.com/de/scanforvirus

Symantec:
http://security.symantec.com/

BitDefender
http://www.bitdefender.com/scan/license.php

Freedom Online scanner
http://www.freedom.net/viruscenter/index.html


* * * Please report your results ! * * *

Dave




| Hello,
|
| Can't seem to find a cure for these popuppers.com windows that pop up every
| so often. Below is the log from Hijackthis. Just don't know what to remove
| or what I should do next. Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.
|
| Running processes:
| C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
| C:\Program Files\Ahead\InCD\InCDsrv.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
| C:\Program Files\Ahead\InCD\InCD.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\sfcwdv.exe
| C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
| C:\PROGRA~1\VERIZO~1\SMARTB~1\MotiveSB.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\medload.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE
| C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
| C:\Program Files\Energizer FileSaver\Energizer FileSaver.exe
| C:\Program Files\InterVideo\Common\Bin\WinCinemaMgr.exe
| C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared\wkcalrem.exe
| C:\Program Files\Palm\HOTSYNC.EXE
| C:\Program Files\Verizon Online\bin\mpbtn.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\System32\MsPMSPSv.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe
| C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
| C:\Documents and Settings\Frank\Desktop\HijackThis.exe
|
| R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
| http://cgi.verizon.net/bookmarks/bmredir.asp?region=all&bw=dsl&cd=6.0&bm=ho_search
| R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
| http://www.yahoo.com/
| R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
| R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Window Title = Microsoft
| Internet Explorer provided by Verizon Online
| R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet
| Settings,ProxyOverride = 127.0.0.1
| R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page_bak =
| http://www.yahoo.com/
| R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,SearchAssistant =
| about:blank
| R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - _{707E6F76-9FFB-4920-A976-EA101271BC25} -
| (no file)
| F2 - REG:system.ini:
| UserInit=C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe,C:\Windows\System32\wsaupdater.exe,
| O2 - BHO: (no name) - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program
| Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.ocx
| O2 - BHO: CCHelper - {0CF0B8EE-6596-11D5-A98E-0003470BB48E} - C:\Program
| Files\Panicware\Pop-Up Stopper Companion\CCHelper.dll
| O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\Program
| Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\SDHelper.dll
| O2 - BHO: (no name) - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
| c:\windows\googletoolbar1.dll
| O2 - BHO: (no name) - {AEECBFDA-12FA-4881-BDCE-8C3E1CE4B344} -
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvms.dll
| O2 - BHO: (no name) - {CE188402-6EE7-4022-8868-AB25173A3E14} -
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\mscb.dll
| O2 - BHO: (no name) - {F4E04583-354E-4076-BE7D-ED6A80FD66DA} -
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\msbe.dll
| O3 - Toolbar: Pop-Up Stopper &Companion -
| {8F05B1A8-9D77-4B8F-AF54-6B2202066F95} - C:\Program Files\Panicware\Pop-Up
| Stopper Companion\popupus.dll
| O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} -
| c:\windows\googletoolbar1.dll
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [InCD] C:\Program Files\Ahead\InCD\InCD.exe
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Windows SA] C:\Program Files\WindowsSA\omniscient.exe
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WindUpdates] C:\Program Files\WindUpdates\WinUpdt.exe
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [cklxlwv] C:\WINDOWS\sfcwdv.exe
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common
| Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Motive SmartBridge]
| C:\PROGRA~1\VERIZO~1\SMARTB~1\MotiveSB.exe
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [loads.exe] C:\WINDOWS\medload.exe
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE
| C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
| O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program
| Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
| O4 - Startup: HotSync Manager.lnk = C:\Program Files\Palm\HOTSYNC.EXE
| O4 - Startup: PowerReg Scheduler V3.exe
| O4 - Global Startup: Energizer FileSaver.lnk = C:\Program Files\Energizer
| FileSaver\Energizer FileSaver.exe
| O4 - Global Startup: InterVideo WinCinema Manager.lnk = C:\Program
| Files\InterVideo\Common\Bin\WinCinemaMgr.exe
| O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft
| Office\Office\OSA9.EXE
| O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Works Calendar Reminders.lnk = ?
| O4 - Global Startup: Verizon Online Support Center.lnk = C:\Program
| Files\Verizon Online\bin\matcli.exe
| O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search -
| res://c:\windows\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsearch.html
| O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links -
| res://c:\windows\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmbacklinks.html
| O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page -
| res://c:\windows\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmcache.html
| O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages -
| res://c:\windows\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmsimilar.html
| O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate into English -
| res://c:\windows\GoogleToolbar1.dll/cmtrans.html
| O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console (HKLM)
| O9 - Extra button: Messenger (HKLM)
| O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger (HKLM)
| O9 - Extra button: Real.com (HKLM)
| O9 - Extra button: Messenger (HKLM)
| O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger (HKLM)
| O16 - DPF: ppctlcab - http://www.pestscan.com/scanner/ppctlcab.cab
| O16 - DPF: {02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B} (QuickTime Object) -
| http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab
| O16 - DPF: {11260943-421B-11D0-8EAC-0000C07D88CF} (iPIX ActiveX Control) -
| http://www.ipix.com/viewers/ipixx.cab
| O16 - DPF: {14B87622-7E19-4EA8-93B3-97215F77A6BC} (MessengerStatsClient
| Class) -
| http://messenger.zone.msn.com/binary/MessengerStatsPAClient.cab27571.cab
| O16 - DPF: {15AD4789-CDB4-47E1-A9DA-992EE8E6BAD6} -
|
http://public.windupdates.com/get_f...842869220dcf:31e1e886df05c54f80cdc9defbb7eddc
| O16 - DPF: {166B1BCA-3F9C-11CF-8075-444553540000} (Shockwave ActiveX
| Control) -
| http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/director/swdir.cab
| O16 - DPF: {30528230-99F7-4BB4-88D8-FA1D4F56A2AB} (YInstStarter Class) -
| http://download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/yinst.cab
| O16 - DPF: {33288993-5664-11D4-8B5B-00D0B73B3518} (ell Class) -
| http://www.easports.com/downloads/games/common/ieell.cab
| O16 - DPF: {41F17733-B041-4099-A042-B518BB6A408C} -
|
http://a1540.g.akamai.net/7/1540/52...pple.com/borris/us/win/QuickTimeInstaller.exe
| O16 - DPF: {54B52E52-8000-4413-BD67-FC7FE24B59F2} (EARTPatchX Class) -
| http://files.ea.com/downloads/rtpatch/v2/EARTPX.cab
| O16 - DPF: {8EDAD21C-3584-4E66-A8AB-EB0E5584767D} -
| http://toolbar.google.com/data/GoogleActivate.cab
| O16 - DPF: {924C1588-90C3-4910-B6CA-D57A1C0418FE} (YbUploadFavsCtl Class) -
| http://download.yahoo.com/dl/bookmarks/ybconvfav030408.cab
| O16 - DPF: {9600F64D-755F-11D4-A47F-0001023E6D5A} (Shutterfly Picture Upload
| Plugin) - http://web1.shutterfly.com/downloads/Uploader.cab
| O16 - DPF: {9F1C11AA-197B-4942-BA54-47A8489BB47F} -
| http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/CAB/x86/unicode/iuctl.CAB?37679.5872569444
| O16 - DPF: {A8658086-E6AC-4957-BC8E-7D54A7E8A78E} (SassCln Object) -
| http://www.microsoft.com/security/controls/SassCln.CAB
| O16 - DPF: {C606BA60-AB76-48B6-96A7-2C4D5C386F70} (PreQualifier Class) -
| http://www.verizon.net/checkmypc/includes/MotivePreQual.cab
| O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) -
| http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab
| O16 - DPF: {DE22A7AB-A739-4C58-AD52-21F9CD6306B7} (CTAdjust Class) -
| http://download.microsoft.com/download/Typography/Utility/2.0b/WXP/EN-US/clearadj.cab
| O16 - DPF: {E0CE16CB-741C-4B24-8D04-A817856E07F4} -
| http://cabs.media-motor.net/cabs/downplain.cab
| O16 - DPF: {EAA105FE-7BBD-4196-8B96-D46743894195} (MjpegControl Class) -
| http://216.86.39.250/plugin/mjpegcontrol.cab
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| ___________________________________________________________________________________
| I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in
| and out, and find pasture.
| (John 10:9)
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[Thomas Edison]

<snip>

Please consider reading <http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html>.

Thank you.

 

[David H. Lipman]

No -- I won't. But thanx anyway.

Dave





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| <snip>
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| Please consider reading <http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html>.
|
| Thank you.
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| tom -at- tomjb -dot- com

 

[Kadaitcha Man]

Hey, a ****ing net nazi. Top posted for your reading displeasure, you
****headed mental case.

<snip>

Please consider reading
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html>.

--

 

[Thomas Edison]

No -- I won't. But thanx anyway.

Let me tell you something -- I rarely ever use my killfile. Currently, I
only have a single entry in it: a bot that posts all too often for my
liking. However, you're about to become my second entry because:

o you often massively over-quote;
o you sometimes cross-post silly, unnecessary virus warnings;
o you top-post and
o when politely asked to read an article which discusses how to post
considerately, you refused to.

In fact, your posts remind me somewhat of the annoying spam messages I get
in my inbox every day.

I hope for the benefit of other netizens who haven't plonked you that you
learn the errors of your ways, but I certainly won't be holding my breath.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven David H. Lipman:

Been there, done that, don't need to do it again !

Aw, please?

I have read more articles than I care to expound upon and I've been
on the Internet since the mid '80's when I started with CompuServe.
I choose to post the way I do I don't don't need some newbie to
tell me otherwise

What would you say if another person who had a very very low
CompuServe number asked you to read that page?

 

[David H. Lipman]

For you maybe. For the faux Edison - No.

I was; 75730,775 and I used it to access a.c.v ~1990.

Dave




| Quoth the raven David H. Lipman:
|
| > Been there, done that, don't need to do it again !
|
| Aw, please?
|
| > I have read more articles than I care to expound upon and I've been
| > on the Internet since the mid '80's when I started with CompuServe.
| > I choose to post the way I do I don't don't need some newbie to
| > tell me otherwise
|
| What would you say if another person who had a very very low
| CompuServe number asked you to read that page?
|
| --
| -bts
| -This space intentionally left blank.

 

[Nick FitzGerald]

| o you top-post and

That's my preference and I will continue to do so. RFC's may define protocols for
communication stacks, but, not for human interaction and the RFC on news Posting is a
suggestion, not a rule. Who are you, Emily News Post -- defender of netiquette ?

| o when politely asked to read an article which discusses how to post
| considerately, you refused to.

Been there, done that, don't need to do it again !
I have read more articles than I care to expound upon and I've been on the Internet since
the mid '80's when I started with CompuServe. I choose to post the way I do I don't don't
need some newbie to tell me otherwise

First, CompuServe is not Usenet/Internet News so I don't see the relevance,
except that you may be trying to establish you are a boring old git who is
too stuck in his ways to adapt.

However, if your point is simply that you've been around for a long time,
then I've been reading and posting to news since the mid/late 80s and
"way back then" top-posting, excessive quoting, etc, etc was universally
frowned upon by anyone who was not a newbie.

Further, top-posting in news only started to become "fashionable" as more
and more moron newbies started using shite clients. This was especially
the case with early versions of OE which were designed to replicate the
top-posting, full-quoting idiocy of MS' earlier, even crappier corporate
Email clients rather than to "fit into" any established "Internet culture"
(I half suspect this was a deliberate decision taken to piss off those who
were established on "the net" as "punishment" for Bill and creww entirely
missing the frigging obvious for so long... ). A similar tend
started in Email slightly earlier, as more and more shitty, non-RFC-
compliant MS (and other) corporate Email systems were hooked up to the
Internet via gateways, the better of which tried to fix the worst of the
non-compliance issues, which of course, were mainly limited to header
(de-)mangling and content encapsulation issues.

That top-posting and gross over-quoting is so widely accepted as to have
almost become the norm is, sadly, a reflection of the dominance of
exceptionally crappy default client s/w from the taste-, style- and
history-devoid Redmond gorilla of mediocrity that has passed as adequate
s/w developement for way too long...

 

[David H. Lipman]

Nick:

You really need to express your opinions more. ;-)

The DOS and later Win16 (WinCIM ?) CompuServe software had an excellent front-end to UseNet
News Groups.

Dave



|
| <<snip>>
| > | o you top-post and
| >
| > That's my preference and I will continue to do so. RFC's may define protocols for
| > communication stacks, but, not for human interaction and the RFC on news Posting is a
| > suggestion, not a rule. Who are you, Emily News Post -- defender of netiquette ?
| >
| > | o when politely asked to read an article which discusses how to post
| > | considerately, you refused to.
| >
| > Been there, done that, don't need to do it again !
| > I have read more articles than I care to expound upon and I've been on the Internet
since
| > the mid '80's when I started with CompuServe. I choose to post the way I do I don't
don't
| > need some newbie to tell me otherwise
|
| First, CompuServe is not Usenet/Internet News so I don't see the relevance,
| except that you may be trying to establish you are a boring old git who is
| too stuck in his ways to adapt.
|
| However, if your point is simply that you've been around for a long time,
| then I've been reading and posting to news since the mid/late 80s and
| "way back then" top-posting, excessive quoting, etc, etc was universally
| frowned upon by anyone who was not a newbie.
|
| Further, top-posting in news only started to become "fashionable" as more
| and more moron newbies started using shite clients. This was especially
| the case with early versions of OE which were designed to replicate the
| top-posting, full-quoting idiocy of MS' earlier, even crappier corporate
| Email clients rather than to "fit into" any established "Internet culture"
| (I half suspect this was a deliberate decision taken to piss off those who
| were established on "the net" as "punishment" for Bill and creww entirely
| missing the frigging obvious for so long... ). A similar tend
| started in Email slightly earlier, as more and more shitty, non-RFC-
| compliant MS (and other) corporate Email systems were hooked up to the
| Internet via gateways, the better of which tried to fix the worst of the
| non-compliance issues, which of course, were mainly limited to header
| (de-)mangling and content encapsulation issues.
|
| That top-posting and gross over-quoting is so widely accepted as to have
| almost become the norm is, sadly, a reflection of the dominance of
| exceptionally crappy default client s/w from the taste-, style- and
| history-devoid Redmond gorilla of mediocrity that has passed as adequate
| s/w developement for way too long...
|
|
| --
| Nick FitzGerald
|
|

 

[kurt wismer]

Quoth the raven David H. Lipman: [snip]

I have read more articles than I care to expound upon and I've been
on the Internet since the mid '80's when I started with CompuServe.
I choose to post the way I do I don't don't need some newbie to
tell me otherwise

What would you say if another person who had a very very low CompuServe
number asked you to read that page?

what if we all just recognized he was being pretentious and moved on
with our lives...

 

[kurt wismer]

For you maybe. For the faux Edison - No.

I was; 75730,775 and I used it to access a.c.v ~1990.

4 years before it's inception? those folks at compuserve must have had
some pretty advanced technology for that...

 

[David H. Lipman]

It is not "pretentious" of me to state that I have read so called netiquette articles over
the dozen plus years I have been on the Internet. I have received idiotic comments about
the Top Posting <--> Bottom Posting BS argument for years. You know that. You have
participated them in the past. The faux Edison is not new. Just because he wants me too
I'm not going to read another netiquette web site. Pretentious ? I don't think so.

CompuServe has been around since the mid '80s and I became a member circa 1990. It was
during that period of using the DOS CompuServe Information Manager that I started accessing
UseNet via CompuServe.

Actually we are about at the 10th anniversary of a.c.v. It was started right about
Halloween of '94. I think at that time I had quit CompuServe and joined a local
$20.00/month Dial-Up ISP.

After re-reading my reply I can see how you infer I meant accessing a.c.v in '90.

Man eating shark -- Can be taken in two contexts. A man consuming the a shark and the
shark eating the man.
Sorry for the misperception, I could have written that reply *much* better.

Dave




| David H. Lipman wrote:
|
| > For you maybe. For the faux Edison - No.
| >
| > I was; 75730,775 and I used it to access a.c.v ~1990.
|
| 4 years before it's inception? those folks at compuserve must have had
| some pretty advanced technology for that...
|
| --
| "maxwell can tell he's in hell
| just wants you to visit him there
| same old game that he's playin'
| his rules are never fair"

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven David H. Lipman:

For you maybe. For the faux Edison - No.

(Ooh! Ooh!)

I was; 75730,775 and I used it to access a.c.v ~1990.

Don't remember my full number anymore - ended in 110 and my password
was animal+kneel <g> I signed up in the first year, somewhere around
1984 I think. Finally gave it up about four or five years ago.

 

[Lady Chatterly]

Yes, pretentious. You.

The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Usenet poster
is suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three
best friends. If they're okay, then it is you.

pretentious
adj 1: making claim to or creating an appearance of (often
undeserved) importance or distinction;
[ant: unpretentious]
2: intended to attract notice and impress others

That's a ridiculous claim but it's not surprising this is a bit too
complicated for you.

 

[Thomas Edison]

Hey, a ****ing net nazi. Top posted for your reading displeasure, you
****headed mental case.

I wouldn't normally bother someone about their posting style. I suppose
that I see David as someone who isn't really a newbie to computing or
Usenet, yet to me he posts just like one (and this has some negative
repercussions, as mentioned in the article).

Note that the main reason for my reply was the over-quoting, not the
top-posting.

In any case, all I asked was that he consider reading the article.

This analogy sums up the situation for me:

David is a wise pedestrian who often helps people out with any trouble they
might encounter in the streets. However, he has a rather anti-social trait
in that he drops litter everywhere while doing so.

 

[Kadaitcha Man]

Thomas Edison, <[email protected]>, the horrid, lifeless bacterium, and keeper of
service animals, clucked:

I suppose that I see David as someone who

Real meaning: You're a mental **** whose insane head reads mere usenet posts
then proceeds to make up imaginary attributes and foibles that annoy the
hell out of itself, which you then project onto some unsuspecting passer-by.

Note that the main reason for my reply was the over-quoting

Note that the main reason for my reply is the fact that you are an insane,
whining ****, a ****wit, a net nazi, a boor, a bore and a boar, amongst
other things. Please be so kind as to drop dead in the most horrible and
painful manner imaginable. Thank you and **** off.

<aside>
****ing mad ****. If he's not seriously medicated and restrained in
straightjacket, he should be.

--

 

[Lady Chatterly]

Real meaning: You're a mental **** whose insane head reads mere usenet posts
then proceeds to make up imaginary attributes and foibles that annoy the
hell out of itself, which you then project onto some unsuspecting passer-by.

Is this the best that you can do? Never mind. Don't answer that?

Note that the main reason for my reply is the fact that you are an insane,
whining ****, a ****wit, a net nazi, a boor, a bore and a boar, amongst
other things. Please be so kind as to drop dead in the most horrible and
painful manner imaginable. Thank you and **** off.

Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were posting to usenet. But
I repeat myself.

<aside>
****ing mad ****. If he's not seriously medicated and restrained in
straightjacket, he should be.

Love me, love my dog.

--
Lady Chatterly

"You need to adjust your code a bit Lady C. Looks like you have the
word "you: caught in a loop. I makes the above statement
incomprehensable." -- Crawdad

 

[Kelly]

Hello,

Can't seem to find a cure for these popuppers.com windows that pop up every
so often. Below is the log from Hijackthis. Just don't know what to remove
or what I should do next. Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.

Hi - I was having the same problem, and after trying numerous free
spyware programs, purchased Norton Internet Security 2005 (With
Antivirus and Antispam) and it got rid of Poppuppers. I never did
figure out, nor try to really , what spyware files were popuppers ...
but Norton found and deleted it apparently.
Good luck-

 

[Gary L. Burnore]

Why aren't you irritated me do not start referring to you in the first
person?

Why aren't me irritated me do not start referring to you in the first
person?
--
gburnore@databasix dot com
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