Need AV program compatable with Vista 64

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Greybeard

Bought OneCare released with Vista to protect a new Vista Ultimate 64
install. Totally incompatible with any 64 bit version. Not on box.
Small blurb on website. How could it be released and not protect the MS's
own state-of-the-art systems? (Not really my question.)

Tried install of Norton's 2007, waived off by Vista. "May install but may
not function. Known incompatibility issues."

Need a good Vista 64 fully compatible anti-virus program, and preferably a
good system doctor/mechanic type program designed specifically to work with
Vista. Any of either yet released?

Does OneCare plan to update to cover 64bit systems and offer free to prior
purchaser/subscribers?

Greybeard
 
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David Morgan \(MAMS\)

Greybeard said:
Need a good Vista 64 fully compatible anti-virus program

I don't mean to be a pest, and I can't answer your question... but I
would seriously like to know why you think you have to have this.
Big family or a large office with a shared PC? Just curious....

DM
 
J

John Inzer

Greybeard said:
Bought OneCare released with Vista to protect a new Vista Ultimate 64
install. Totally incompatible with any 64 bit version. Not on box.
Small blurb on website. How could it be released and not protect
the MS's own state-of-the-art systems? (Not really my question.)

Tried install of Norton's 2007, waived off by Vista. "May install
but may not function. Known incompatibility issues."

Need a good Vista 64 fully compatible anti-virus program, and
preferably a good system doctor/mechanic type program designed
specifically to work with Vista. Any of either yet released?

Does OneCare plan to update to cover 64bit systems and offer free to
prior purchaser/subscribers?

Greybeard
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Maybe NOD32 would be worth a look:

NOD32 for Windows
http://www.eset.com/products/index.php

--
John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
W

Walter Blanchard

Avast 4 home works.

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Walter B
waltblanch[at]tampabay[dot]rr[dot]com
______________________________
 
A

Adam Leinss

I don't mean to be a pest, and I can't answer your question... but I
would seriously like to know why you think you have to have this.
Big family or a large office with a shared PC? Just curious....

Virus protection is needed no matter how secure Vista is.

Adam
 
J

John Inzer

Adam said:
Virus protection is needed no matter how secure Vista is.

Adam
=================================
Don't you think maybe the question referred
to why Vista 64 and not why a virus program?

--
John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
D

Dan

Avast works great with the 64bit version. The all in one PC Mechanic suites
usually slow a system down to the point of negating the benefits.

Dan
 
D

David Morgan \(MAMS\)

John Inzer said:
Adam Leinss wrote:

Wrong. ( perhaps about both ;-)
Don't you think maybe the question referred
to why Vista 64 and not why a virus program?

I'm not a troll.

Actually, if it's a personal PC, merely using safe surfing and e-mailing
habits negates the need for any sort of invasive, system slowing, nearly
impossible to remove, background process generating, ET phone home,
slow boot, slow shutdown, file altering (innoculation), generally demanding
crap called A/V "protection". I haven't used any Anti-virus hogwash on any
system since 1998, and I'm running 4 that have been virtually constantly
connected to the internet during that time. Anti-spyware and a web-based
e-mail server or a reliable ISP with some advance filtering, coupled with
safe personal practices and you're home free... and fast. Prior to that
I tried Norton and McAffee on a few machines and ended up reformatting
to get rid of the monsters. Things may have changed, but good habits
stay with you and I, for one, am living, working proof that the a/v is not
mandatory no matter what they tell you on the sales floor.
 
W

...winston

David,

With respect to AV..Your personal experience meets your current needs. It is
not applicable for everyone. And as you also probably understand, unless
everyone you know and read about follows your method, many others are not so
disciplined thus an AV and the periodic use of a malware scanner is
appropriate.

Additionally it would be nice to believe that the reasons for not installing
an AV for those not so disciplined are due to "invasive, system slowing,
nearly impossible to remove, background process generating, ET phone home,
slow boot, slow shutdown, file altering (inoculation), generally demanding
crap called A/V "protection" but few of those reasons rank as the primary
reason.

It doesn't appear that any poster(including those probably using an AV
application) called you a troll.

...winston
 
A

aleinss

Actually, if it's a personal PC, merely using safe surfing and e-mailing
habits negates the need for any sort of invasive, system slowing, nearly
impossible to remove, background process generating

As they say: "ignorance is bliss". Without any A/V software (must of
which does greyware detection now), you are implicitly trusting all
the bits floating over your wire. Legitimate sites get hacked, web
sites some times get mistyped. Your choice: not recommended. You may
be the world's best driver and choose not to wear a seat belt.
However, you cannot control what other drivers will do on the road and
you therefore put yourself at risk.

Adam
 
D

David Morgan \(MAMS\)

As they say: "ignorance is bliss". Without any A/V software (must of
which does greyware detection now), you are implicitly trusting all
the bits floating over your wire. Legitimate sites get hacked, web
sites some times get mistyped. Your choice: not recommended. You may
be the world's best driver and choose not to wear a seat belt.
However, you cannot control what other drivers will do on the road and
you therefore put yourself at risk.

Adam


All I am saying is... almost 9 years, 7 PCs, 4 constantly connected... no virus.
Not that they don't come (especially after posting something like this), but
using a little brainpower to deal with that in order to keep my machines fast
and unencumbered is worth the effort. In my humble opinion, anyone who
ramrods through danger zones in complete reliance on A/V software is going
to have problems anyway, and very likely still end up with virii to remove.
 
G

Greybeard

Thank you all for sharing your knowledge about 64bit compatible AV programs.

I have downloaded the 30 day trial for NOD32. After that, may try Avast.

I learned a lot reading the NOD32 site. I already had concern for rootkit
protection.

And... David... I did not respond to your initial inquiry for several
reasons. First, anyone who states they do not mean to be a pest is
acknowledging that they know they are, but can't control themselves. I
wasn't going to further kill my own inquiry by responding to the juvenile
troll bait of "why you think you have to have this". Do you ever even
try to be civil? Why do you think you have to be so rude as to attempt to
hijack a legitimate inquiry thread with an insulting, demeaning attack?
What was your payoff? And what is that dribble about a big family or large
office with a shared PC? What did that do for you?

If you had "seriously liked to know" anything you would have asked something
neutral, or even benign, like, "what benefits have you found in the new
Vista system either at work or home which made the switch from XP either
cost effective and worth the risk of a new system". I would have felt you
were asking a somewhat reasonable question, and considered a thoughtful
response.

And what is with your follow-up replies about how great you are for being a
virus virgin since 1998. ...and all without wearing an AV condom. Do
you honestly think that anyone reading your comments believe your
credibility? I certainly trust and hope for your sake you are only a
simple troll, and I apologize to everyone else for feeding you. Just so
you will not be forced to punish anyone else with a reply, I am not coming
back to this thread to witness your inevitable response. I prefer you keep
it bottled up and save it for you boss or family where it belongs. We are
such poor substitutes.

Just in case I am mistaken about your character, which I am not... I
edit, convert and transfer video files, and my six year old system had
burned up three new 300gig HDs in the prior 3 months. I suspected a damaged
MB. It was time to protect my remaining 3 terabytes of HDs. What I bought
was 6 month old technology, just at the low side of the price breaks for
hardware. I bought just past the depreciation curve leveled off. I had to
purchase some O/S, and Vista was a good choice of new options. I have my
old XP on a separate partition as backup. I need what I have, and upgraded
to what was cost efficient as to future functionality. That is how an
adult decides what is needed and appropriate for the conditions. They it
yourself and you will be less inclined to attribute your insecurities to
others.

Thanks, again, to everyone else.

Greybeard
 
B

baker9252

David said:
All I am saying is... almost 9 years, 7 PCs, 4 constantly connected... no virus.
Not that they don't come (especially after posting something like this), but
using a little brainpower to deal with that in order to keep my machines fast
and unencumbered is worth the effort. In my humble opinion, anyone who
ramrods through danger zones in complete reliance on A/V software is going
to have problems anyway, and very likely still end up with virii to remove.

Avast works fine with Vista64! I have had no problems on either computer.
 

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