My vista is a joke!

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Purchased Vista home prem. Have had problems with force graphics card (nvida)
6200, dgbsvc (38 times) install shield, driver software installation (10
times), IE, Windows (10 times) and many many more. Not counting the many
trips to the electronics stores to return "vista ready" equiptment that is
totally incompatable with anything! So now in the name of keeping my
equiptment up to date, I have my computers fit for only a kid to play games
on. If they can keep it running long enough to finish one.
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Well, you're not alone in your frustration, there was that fellow who was
trying and may have actually started a lawsuit again nVidia, because of all
the problems his Vista ready 8800GTX was having. nVidia really suprised me
with their dropping of the ball on drivers for Vista and they are still
working out the kinks. I'd say maybe 3 months, hopefully less, everything
will be smooth sailing.

That is one thing that does endure me to ATI, they release a new set of
drivers each month and so far, they have been pretty good with Vista.

It's the joys of being one of those early adopters
 
I have also had many many problems with vista. I purchased a new HP machine
with vista installed and have so far had to wipe and restore it 3 times in
the last month due to it going crazy when certain programs were installed.
Even programs like Nero have caused me no end of grief.
 
Rich said:
Does'nt sound like Vista is the joke does it?

Rich
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what amazes me to no end is how much you fanboys actually care...
somebody expresses dissatisfaction with something that is nothing more than
a tool, and you go off on them, as if somebody made a comment about one of
your kids.

not that you're actually old enough to have kids...
 
If you were a little more specific, you could get help.. re.nVidia drivers,
we all have the same issues.. the earlier drivers are not so bad even though
they may not give all of the control as seen in XP.. the situation will get
better..


ben strong said:
Purchased Vista home prem. Have had problems with force graphics card
(nvida)
6200, dgbsvc (38 times) install shield, driver software installation (10
times), IE, Windows (10 times) and many many more. Not counting the many
trips to the electronics stores to return "vista ready" equiptment that is
totally incompatable with anything! So now in the name of keeping my
equiptment up to date, I have my computers fit for only a kid to play
games
on. If they can keep it running long enough to finish one.
(e-mail address removed)
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--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
The bottom line is that for some "it don't work".

Things that worked with XP, don't work with Vista. Understandably, to the
end user the kneejerk reaction is to blame Vista.

Example: NVidia drivers are OK with XP. New NVidea drivers are not OK with
Vista... why not?

Is NVidia dragging their beehinds? Are they incompetent (as opposed to
ATI)? OR... Was Vista rushed out to quickly for driver compatability?

Your guess is as good as everybody else's. No need to be defensive.

Nick Goetz
 
Purchased Vista home prem. Have had problems with force graphics card (nvida)
6200, dgbsvc (38 times) install shield, driver software installation (10
times), IE, Windows (10 times) and many many more. Not counting the many
trips to the electronics stores to return "vista ready" equiptment that is
totally incompatable with anything! So now in the name of keeping my
equiptment up to date, I have my computers fit for only a kid to play games
on. If they can keep it running long enough to finish one.
(e-mail address removed)
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Sounds like a rather expensive joke to me!
 
john said:
what amazes me to no end is how much you fanboys actually care...
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How do you know?
somebody expresses dissatisfaction with something that is nothing more
than a tool, and you go off on them, as if somebody made a comment about
one of your kids.
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Eh? The OP was ranting. He was unprepared for Vista and is unable to calmly
diagnose his problems.

I didn't think Rich did anything more that express the disdain that many of
us have these type of people.
not that you're actually old enough to have kids...
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Hmmm... Personal insults? Why?
 
I didn't think Nero works under Vista. My version doesn't.
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The latest versions of both Nero and Easy CD Creator, the two most
popular CD/DVD burner apps work fine under Vista.
 
How do you know?


Eh? The OP was ranting. He was unprepared for Vista and is unable to calmly
diagnose his problems.

I didn't think Rich did anything more that express the disdain that many of
us have these type of people.


Hmmm... Personal insults? Why?
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The inmaturity of some MVPs posting to THIS newsgroup and others is
legendary.
 
ray said:
Sounds like a rather expensive joke to me!
How easy it is to sit on the side and talk about the "flyboys" when you dont have to borrow a computer to report! If i could get mine up then mabe I could follow up. Thanks for the support!
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I eventually managed to get Vista to run OK, but even that was not as good
as XP which is what I have gone back to.
I won't bother with Vista again.
 
Isaac,

I felt the same way after my first attempt at installing Vista Business.
After a few days of frustrating problems and the loss of all icons I was
about to just hang it up. I had done a upgrade from XP Professional SP 2
and had followed all of the steps.

I finally decided to swap drives and install to another "clean" drive. I
definitely wasn't looking forward to this as my Upgrade took almost 3 hours
on a dual core opteron 175 with 4 Gig of Ram, but I decided I would give it
one more try.

I'm very glad I did. This time everything installed properly and I already
had all of the updated drivers available before I attempted the install.

I have to say that after 2 weeks, I've had absolutely no problems. The
speed has been much faster. I'm a developer and I've got a few applications
that could take 10 minutes to compile. With Vista they are now compiling in
under 5 minutes. I've not seen any internet slow downs.

Now I'm definitely not a MS evangelist but I've found that if you do a good
install then things run very well. My only complaint is that I installed
Office 2007. While I love the new One Note 2007, I can't seem to find
anything in MS Word. I find the MS Word Interface to be terrible... but I
guess you can't have everything. For me the Vista reinstall has given me a
very solid platform.

Best Regards,

Michael Gould
 
I have to agree
I'm having problems NVidia chipset driver but thats NVidia's problem not VIsta

Not every program or driver is going to work for a wile
Not till everybody plays cetchup
 
"Dale White" <[email protected]> squirted these wordjisms
deep inside the bumtube of the newstwat in
Well, you're not alone in your frustration, there was that fellow who
was trying and may have actually started a lawsuit again nVidia,
because of all the problems his Vista ready 8800GTX was having. nVidia
really suprised me with their dropping of the ball on drivers for
Vista and they are still working out the kinks. I'd say maybe 3
months, hopefully less, everything will be smooth sailing.

That is one thing that does endure me to ATI, they release a new set
of drivers each month and so far, they have been pretty good with
Vista.

It's the joys of being one of those early adopters
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Any such lawsuit, if ever filed, wuold be detined to fail, for the simple
reason that noone points a gun at anyone's head and forces them to buy an
nVidia graphics card, or to use Vista.
 
David Qunt said:
Any such lawsuit, if ever filed, wuold be detined to fail, for the simple
reason that noone points a gun at anyone's head and forces them to buy an
nVidia graphics card, or to use Vista.
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Well, I think the basis of the complaint was that the card is advertised and
promoted as being a "Vista Capable\Certified" device. If said device didn't
actually work, or worked below reasonable standards, then it could be argued
that they were misled

I'm not a lawsuit\ sue happy kinda guy, but I do think there should be some
kind of rule\standard that says, "If you claim (which means promote and
advertise) your product does XYZ and works with XYZ, then it should work
with XYZ. Given the large number of people who had issues, and still have
issues, because nVidia is sorely lacking on driver support, I think at some
point, someone needs to look at what nVidia claimed and what they delivered
and determine if some sort of fine or penalty is appropriate. Though it's
also a fair argument, that in a capitalist market, that consumers not buying
a nvidia product again would be the fine.

I think for those that bought Dual 8800GTX cards and had SLI support under
XP, and then lost that support for the first 2-3 months under Vista, then
they have a valid complaint that the 8800 wasn't truly Vista
ready\Certified. Obviously, we can say, "so they had to go 3-4 months
without SLI support, it's not the end of the world", That's kind of a fair
argument as well, though it sure is alot of money to shell out, under the
given understanding that you're buying a Certified product when it seemed
obvious, it was far from truly being ready.
 
David Qunt said:
Any such lawsuit, if ever filed, wuold be detined to fail, for the simple
reason that noone points a gun at anyone's head and forces them to buy an
nVidia graphics card, or to use Vista.
Click to expand...

Well, I think the basis of the complaint was that the card is advertised and
promoted as being a "Vista Capable\Certified" device. If said device didn't
actually work, or worked below reasonable standards, then it could be argued
that they were misled

I'm not a lawsuit\ sue happy kinda guy, but I do think there should be some
kind of rule\standard that says, "If you claim (which means promote and
advertise) your product does XYZ and works with XYZ, then it should work
with XYZ. Given the large number of people who had issues, and still have
issues, because nVidia is sorely lacking on driver support, I think at some
point, someone needs to look at what nVidia claimed and what they delivered
and determine if some sort of fine or penalty is appropriate. Though it's
also a fair argument, that in a capitalist market, that consumers not buying
a nvidia product again would be the fine.

I think for those that bought Dual 8800GTX cards and had SLI support under
XP, and then lost that support for the first 2-3 months under Vista, then
they have a valid complaint that the 8800 wasn't truly Vista
ready\Certified. Obviously, we can say, "so they had to go 3-4 months
without SLI support, it's not the end of the world", That's kind of a fair
argument as well, though it sure is alot of money to shell out, under the
given understanding that you're buying a Certified product when it seemed
obvious, it was far from truly being ready.
 
what amazes me to no end is how much you fanboys actually care...

fanboy?

heh .. when you graduate from grade school get back to me.

Lets see here?
How does one go "OFF" in nine whole words

heh

Thanks for re-establishing my point.

Rich
 
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