My compuler locks up completly

R

Radox

I have:

AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Procesor
256MB SDRAM PC133
Mainboard ECS K7S5A 266 MHZ FSB

When I work in windows after a while (more rapidly in games) the
computer locks-up completly nothing whorks but the terstrt button.
Is this because my RAM FSB is only 133 and not 266
My computer works whitouth problem if I slow the bus down to 200 FSB
and my procesor is 1800+
Please help me.

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M

Monster

your motherboard is crap

Radox said:
I have:

AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Procesor
256MB SDRAM PC133
Mainboard ECS K7S5A 266 MHZ FSB

When I work in windows after a while (more rapidly in games) the
computer locks-up completly nothing whorks but the terstrt button.
Is this because my RAM FSB is only 133 and not 266
My computer works whitouth problem if I slow the bus down to 200 FSB
and my procesor is 1800+
Please help me.

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J

JAD

first guess a heat issue


Radox said:
I have:

AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Procesor
256MB SDRAM PC133
Mainboard ECS K7S5A 266 MHZ FSB

When I work in windows after a while (more rapidly in games) the
computer locks-up completly nothing whorks but the terstrt button.
Is this because my RAM FSB is only 133 and not 266
My computer works whitouth problem if I slow the bus down to 200 FSB
and my procesor is 1800+
Please help me.

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G

GTS

Radox said:
I have:

AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Procesor
256MB SDRAM PC133
Mainboard ECS K7S5A 266 MHZ FSB

When I work in windows after a while (more rapidly in games) the
computer locks-up completly nothing whorks but the terstrt button.
Is this because my RAM FSB is only 133 and not 266
My computer works whitouth problem if I slow the bus down to 200 FSB
and my procesor is 1800+
Please help me.
No it's not because your RAM is only 133Mhz - your CPU is also 133Mhz. If
you have DDR ram then the 133 is effectively doubled to 266Mhz but SDRAM
works fine.
It is likely that the memory is either faulty, or the RAM timings are too
aggressive. You could try loading optimized defaults / fail safe defaults in
your BIOS - you did'nt load the BIOS top performance did you? Also try
Memtest, a DOS utility that will report any errors with the RAM.
Another possibilty is temperature, as lowering the FSB to 100 would make it
run cooler, but usually this would cause the PC to run very slow and finally
turn off...
 
R

Radox

Listen GTS

My procesor's temprature is 45-49 C max 52 C and the resistance on a
Athlon XP is 85 C this menas thea is not a heat problem as in 1800 it
reaches the same temperatures.The lock-up ocurs at even 48 degrees C
so I don't know.
Secondly I tested my RAM and it works fine(so the program sais).
Olso I am using the coolet that came with the processor in the AMD
Box
Loading the defaults the Bios keeps me on 100/100 FSB not 133/133 as
it shoud.

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G

GTS

Yes I meant load the defaults and then set the CPU & memory to the correct
speed - it still means eveything else will be set to safe parameters - does
it still crash?
BTW most mobo's set the CPU to 100 or 133 by jumper on the mobo - is yours a
jumperless motherboard? Could you be 'overclocking' the frequency and making
the PCI/AGP bus run out of spec?

Radox said:
Listen GTS

My procesor's temprature is 45-49 C max 52 C and the resistance on a
Athlon XP is 85 C this menas thea is not a heat problem as in 1800 it
reaches the same temperatures.The lock-up ocurs at even 48 degrees C
so I don't know.
Secondly I tested my RAM and it works fine(so the program sais).
Olso I am using the coolet that came with the processor in the AMD
Box
Loading the defaults the Bios keeps me on 100/100 FSB not 133/133 as
it shoud.

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D

David Maynard

GTS said:
Yes I meant load the defaults and then set the CPU & memory to the correct
speed - it still means eveything else will be set to safe parameters - does
it still crash?
BTW most mobo's set the CPU to 100 or 133 by jumper on the mobo - is yours a
jumperless motherboard? Could you be 'overclocking' the frequency and making
the PCI/AGP bus run out of spec?

The K7S5A defaults to 100 MHz FSB in BIOS regardless of what processor is
there and you always have to manually set it to the proper FSB, unless
running a Duron.
 
C

CrucialOne

Are you by any chance running Winfax Pro? I had a similar problem as
you and Winfax was the culprit. Got rid of the program and I got rid
of the problem.

CrucialOne
 
M

Monster

the K7S5A is a crappy motherboard and is prone to freezing problem. I had 2
so I know. search the web, there is a K7S5A motherboard support forum there
somewhere. They'll tell you how to replace your chipset heatsink and all
that stuff but in the end it is because you have a cheap motherboard.
 
D

David Maynard

Monster said:
the K7S5A is a crappy motherboard and is prone to freezing problem. I had 2
so I know. search the web, there is a K7S5A motherboard support forum there
somewhere. They'll tell you how to replace your chipset heatsink and all
that stuff but in the end it is because you have a cheap motherboard.

The K7S5A has some startup issues with 'BAD CMOS' (checksum), for no good
reason, and sound not always initializing properly (even though device
manger says it's working just peachy keen), and it can be picky about
memory (not a unique situation, although both my el-cheapo dual 256Meg
PC133 SDRAM sticks and el-cheapo dual 256Meg PC2700 DDR RAM sticks worked
fine) but I've also had two, v3.1 and now Pro, with no 'lockup' or
'freezing' problems at all.

The Pro also has problems with IRQ sharing in PCI slot-1 and you might as
well consider it as not even being there.

The 'fixes' you refer to are attempts for the 'BAD CMOS' issue, for which
there is no fix known to actually work for sure.
 
M

Monster

I still have my 2 k7s5a mobos working but only with slower durons. With a
faster cpu like an 2000+ and above it will just freeze up just like the
original poster said. It will run if he lowers the speed but anything higher
and he gets problems with faster cpus. Send it back to whoever sold it to
you. I'm sure you'll find some cheap MSI motherboard to replace it
 
D

David Maynard

Monster said:
I still have my 2 k7s5a mobos working but only with slower durons. With a
faster cpu like an 2000+ and above it will just freeze up just like the
original poster said. It will run if he lowers the speed but anything higher
and he gets problems with faster cpus. Send it back to whoever sold it to
you. I'm sure you'll find some cheap MSI motherboard to replace it

My Pro is running an XP 1800+ overclocked to 2000+ on a 143 MHz FSB
(honey-x bios), just as the v3.1 was.

Unless there is some power issue, the CPU speed should be irrelevant as
that is all internal to the CPU. The motherboard sees nothing but the
interface (FSB).
 
R

Radox

Listen GTS,

Yes it crushes every time I set the bios to 133/133.Even when I set
the bios to 100/133.
Teh thig is not that is a cheap motherboard but thar it accepts SD and
DD Ram modules.And I now run with PC133 and not DD.But I am seriously
thinking of buing a new DD Kensington 256 Mb because on the ECS
forums that was the general solution.

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J

Jim Wilson

I had an ECS KS5A running successfully for about a year. It finally
started giving me CHECKSUM errors. I'm not 100% certain in your
specific case that the motherboard is the ultimate culprit but it's
certainly worth considering.
That board just has too many "issues" as well documented on numerous
forums.

My ECS was running with an AMD 1500 XP which "may" be why I was able
to operate it successfully for as long as I did. I was using 256mb of
DDR and not PC133 as you are. You must have purchased the board
relatively recently as my boards' BIOS would not support an AMD XP
2400. without a BIOS upgrade.

" Is this because my RAM FSB is only 133 and not 266 "

You are using SDRAM (not DDR) which is running at 133. You would have
to have DDR in order to have a 266 rating. ( Dual Data Ram 133 x 2 =
266 )

If you want to elimate a lot of problems I would replace that board,
period. Start out with a known reliable/stable board.

Good luck!

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R

Radox

The ting is that I have this board for about 3 years now and it seems
to be in god condition.And the bios has been upgraded by me personaly
to the latest firmware version.That is why it recognises my CPU.
I found the problem: RAM (it is a very old one about 4 years) When I
set the ram frequency to 133 the computer locks up else it works just
fine.

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