Geoff said:Could someone tell me what MVP means? I'm new to newsgroups, and have
noticed
some replies from people with these letters after their name. Is it some
sort of qualification?
Bruce Chambers said:Microsoft Most Valuable Professional
So, to whom does the value belong to if MS doesn't pay these non-MSBruce said:Microsoft Most Valuable Professional
Tom said:The MVPs do get free stuff from MS, i.e expensive software like XP, or Office, but it doesn't amount to a great deal, if you were to figure in a years time per se. It is a voluntary program, with some rewards, but MS acknowledges NO affiliation with the MVPs or tkae responsibility for advice given, other than providing their servers for peer to peer advice.
Was a rhetorical statement in a question format.Colin said:The value belongs to those who benefit from the advice given by folks who
volunteer their time to help others. Microsoft also benefits by having a
channel in which to propagate information. This is a means to correct
misinformation and misperceptions. MVP's are first of all communicators, so
the idea is to get information and guidance out to the community through
folks whom others have been looking to for advice all along. Along the way
MS provides sources to the MVP's so that they give accurate and timely
information to other members of the online community.
Funny you mention India, are they branching out there with their NewTom said:I guess you have a point; as MS does save money by not directly paying the MVPs (or anyone here, since anyone on a PC with interent access can ask, or give here), and giving away software at great discounts is certainly much cheaper thna paying a salary. That said, MS also (probably) saves money not having to pay actual tech support, with having and promoting these programs like MS MVPs.
I do think their software is expensive, but they do put a great deal into it, and it does cost money to have people write the software, then keep writing updates to it. I really don't have too much of a problem with MS prices, but I would if they had their software writers working in India, and the like, while not passing on the savings. I will say one thing, the tech support (especially email support) for my Office 2003 has been horrendous, and I let them know it in no uncertain terms.
Colin Barnhorst said:Actually my comments were an addition to the thread and not a response to
yours. I enjoyed your contribution too.
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Philippe L. Balmanno said:Was a rhetorical statement in a question format.
If they are listed in the MVP.ORG site and you check the header of theRobert said:So how do you know if someone here passing themselves of as a MVP is
actually a MVP?
Actually my comments were an addition to the thread and not a response to
yours. I enjoyed your contribution too.
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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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Colin Barnhorst wrote:
The value belongs to those who benefit from the advice given by folks
who volunteer their time to help others. Microsoft also benefits by
having a channel in which to propagate information. This is a means to
correct misinformation and misperceptions. MVP's are first of all
communicators, so the idea is to get information and guidance out to the
community through folks whom others have been looking to for advice all
along. Along the way MS provides sources to the MVP's so that they give
accurate and timely information to other members of the online
community.
Was a rhetorical statement in a question format.
Robert said:So how do you know if someone here passing themselves of as a MVP is
actually a MVP?
Philippe L. Balmanno said:So, to whom does the value belong to if MS doesn't pay these non-MS
knowledgable professionals. MS and the OP get a lot for nothing.
Actually I didn't write this but I did say check the MVp.ORG site andVanguard said:And what do the all the volunteers that provide help in these newsgroups
get for all their time and effort? If you need a reward to be
altruistic then you are not altruistic.
Colin Barnhorst said:MVP's are required to sign a nondisclosure agreement and are then given
access to MS sources and personnel in the areas of their MVP interest.
Since many MVP's also make a living in these areas of interest, this has
definite professional value.
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Vanguard said:And what do the all the volunteers that provide help in these newsgroups
get for all their time and effort? If you need a reward to be altruistic
then you are not altruistic.
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Robert said:So how do you know if someone here passing themselves of as a MVP is
actually a MVP?
Philippe L. Balmanno said:If they are listed in the MVP.ORG site and you check the header of the
news post and I'm not talking about the from header in the message but
in the properties. This isn't always reliable but most probably the
double check will eliminate spoofers.
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