MS AntiSpy

B

BJ

Just installed this thing.

1. It seems to only look at the C: drive? Don't see any
way to have it look at my other drives.

2. Every now and then an alert of some kind gets
triggered. A little window with info in it pops up from
the right bottom of my screen and then rapidly scrolls off
the top of the screen, too fast to see anything. I can't
see any way to control this action.

3. I did a scan and something named "iLookup" got
flagged. But all the detail shows is about 15 URL's all
under a heading named GAMBLING in my Favorites folder.
These URL's are from different sites, some offical like
the California lottery site. There's also no info
available on this flag. This looks like a bum flag, so I
set it to ignore in the future.

4. There is an errors.log file in the program folder with
the following error:

7::ln 10:Out of
memory::gcasDtServ:ScheduleScans:Update::4/23/2005
11:27:47 PM:1.0.509

Not a very helpful message!
 
B

Bill Sanderson

Interspersed:

BJ said:
Just installed this thing.

1. It seems to only look at the C: drive? Don't see any
way to have it look at my other drives.

Click the link to set scan parameters, and look a bit to the right--there's
another link to set which drives are looked at.
2. Every now and then an alert of some kind gets
triggered. A little window with info in it pops up from
the right bottom of my screen and then rapidly scrolls off
the top of the screen, too fast to see anything. I can't
see any way to control this action.

You have a vertical taskbar. I'm afraid the only workaround is to set the
taskbar horizontal. This is a known bug.
3. I did a scan and something named "iLookup" got
flagged. But all the detail shows is about 15 URL's all
under a heading named GAMBLING in my Favorites folder.
These URL's are from different sites, some offical like
the California lottery site. There's also no info
available on this flag. This looks like a bum flag, so I
set it to ignore in the future.
There are some flags which are poorly defined--certain categories of
favorites are flagged as a whole regardless of content, for example--I think
you made the right choice, although if you hit a bit of adware which adds
such a category, it'll be ignored too, of course.

4. There is an errors.log file in the program folder with
the following error:

7::ln 10:Out of
memory::gcasDtServ:ScheduleScans:Update::4/23/2005
11:27:47 PM:1.0.509

Not a very helpful message!

In general, ignore this file. Some installations see an issue where this
file grows very quickly, using all available disk space. If this happens,
shut down the program and delete the file.

There are some instances involving specific error messages where the
contents of this file may be useful, but I haven't looked at my own for
months.
 
B

BJ

Thanks! I hope the problem with the vertical task bar
gets fixed soon since the alerts are useless otherwise. I
have no intention of changing to a horizontal bar as I
find that a lot more difficult to use.

I think I understand why MS went with the horizontal bar
from the beginning. Focusing on the untrained newbie and
fearing that such newbies wouldn't be comfortable using
auto-hide (where's my task bar?????), they felt that the
screen real estate at the bottom was the least obtrusive.

But most Western races read/write left to right or right
to left. A vertical bar using auto hide keeps it out of
the way without any loss of screen real estate and is a
more natural construct. The funny thing is that many
people have gotten so used to a non-hidden horizontal bar
at the bottom of the screen that they almost go into
convulsions if you move their bar and suggest they try it
on the right or left. "I don't know how to use the bar
like that", "it shouldn't be on the side", "I can't see
the bar", etc. In fact, someone once told me that Windows
wasn't designed to work with a vertical bar and that
Windows would crash if they left it in a vertical position
[lol]!
 
B

Bill Sanderson

This beta is based on code acquired from a third party--if Microsoft had
designed if from the start, I don't think you'd have seen this issue--I'm
sure it will be fixed once we see a build with significant changes in place.

I tend to ignore the UI most of the time--I like seeing someone elses
machine where they've really done some work to make it different--gives me
ideas! I've got a machine in an office where they brought in an older
worker as a temp replacement while someone was out on maternity leave. She
set up folder bars and rearranged things in a way that seems pretty
functional to me--but I'm not convinced that she actually did it on
purpose--it may have been an accident that she just didn't know how to
reverse!

--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

BJ said:
Thanks! I hope the problem with the vertical task bar
gets fixed soon since the alerts are useless otherwise. I
have no intention of changing to a horizontal bar as I
find that a lot more difficult to use.

I think I understand why MS went with the horizontal bar
from the beginning. Focusing on the untrained newbie and
fearing that such newbies wouldn't be comfortable using
auto-hide (where's my task bar?????), they felt that the
screen real estate at the bottom was the least obtrusive.

But most Western races read/write left to right or right
to left. A vertical bar using auto hide keeps it out of
the way without any loss of screen real estate and is a
more natural construct. The funny thing is that many
people have gotten so used to a non-hidden horizontal bar
at the bottom of the screen that they almost go into
convulsions if you move their bar and suggest they try it
on the right or left. "I don't know how to use the bar
like that", "it shouldn't be on the side", "I can't see
the bar", etc. In fact, someone once told me that Windows
wasn't designed to work with a vertical bar and that
Windows would crash if they left it in a vertical position
[lol]!

-----Original Message-----
Interspersed:



Click the link to set scan parameters, and look a bit to the right--there's
another link to set which drives are looked at.


You have a vertical taskbar. I'm afraid the only workaround is to set the
taskbar horizontal. This is a known bug.

There are some flags which are poorly defined--certain categories of
favorites are flagged as a whole regardless of content, for example--I think
you made the right choice, although if you hit a bit of adware which adds
such a category, it'll be ignored too, of course.



In general, ignore this file. Some installations see an issue where this
file grows very quickly, using all available disk space. If this happens,
shut down the program and delete the file.

There are some instances involving specific error messages where the
contents of this file may be useful, but I haven't looked at my own for
months.
 
B

BJ

Well, I'd think you'd like my system then. It's heavily
customized to be functional.

Anyway, I found that when one of those alert bloxes scroll
by, if I'm quick enough, seems like if I am in the
vertical channel that it is sliding up and I click in that
space, the box stops and returns to where the mosue
clicked. I was able to read one of these boxes that way
but haven't seen another yet to play with.
-----Original Message-----
This beta is based on code acquired from a third party-- if Microsoft had
designed if from the start, I don't think you'd have seen this issue--I'm
sure it will be fixed once we see a build with significant changes in place.

I tend to ignore the UI most of the time--I like seeing someone elses
machine where they've really done some work to make it different--gives me
ideas! I've got a machine in an office where they brought in an older
worker as a temp replacement while someone was out on maternity leave. She
set up folder bars and rearranged things in a way that seems pretty
functional to me--but I'm not convinced that she actually did it on
purpose--it may have been an accident that she just didn't know how to
reverse!

--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Thanks! I hope the problem with the vertical task bar
gets fixed soon since the alerts are useless otherwise. I
have no intention of changing to a horizontal bar as I
find that a lot more difficult to use.

I think I understand why MS went with the horizontal bar
from the beginning. Focusing on the untrained newbie and
fearing that such newbies wouldn't be comfortable using
auto-hide (where's my task bar?????), they felt that the
screen real estate at the bottom was the least obtrusive.

But most Western races read/write left to right or right
to left. A vertical bar using auto hide keeps it out of
the way without any loss of screen real estate and is a
more natural construct. The funny thing is that many
people have gotten so used to a non-hidden horizontal bar
at the bottom of the screen that they almost go into
convulsions if you move their bar and suggest they try it
on the right or left. "I don't know how to use the bar
like that", "it shouldn't be on the side", "I can't see
the bar", etc. In fact, someone once told me that Windows
wasn't designed to work with a vertical bar and that
Windows would crash if they left it in a vertical position
[lol]!

-----Original Message-----
Interspersed:

Just installed this thing.

1. It seems to only look at the C: drive? Don't see any
way to have it look at my other drives.

Click the link to set scan parameters, and look a bit to the right--there's
another link to set which drives are looked at.


2. Every now and then an alert of some kind gets
triggered. A little window with info in it pops up from
the right bottom of my screen and then rapidly scrolls off
the top of the screen, too fast to see anything. I can't
see any way to control this action.

You have a vertical taskbar. I'm afraid the only workaround is to set the
taskbar horizontal. This is a known bug.


3. I did a scan and something named "iLookup" got
flagged. But all the detail shows is about 15 URL's all
under a heading named GAMBLING in my Favorites folder.
These URL's are from different sites, some offical like
the California lottery site. There's also no info
available on this flag. This looks like a bum flag,
so
I
set it to ignore in the future.

There are some flags which are poorly defined--certain categories of
favorites are flagged as a whole regardless of content, for example--I think
you made the right choice, although if you hit a bit of adware which adds
such a category, it'll be ignored too, of course.


4. There is an errors.log file in the program folder with
the following error:

7::ln 10:Out of
memory::gcasDtServ:ScheduleScans:Update::4/23/2005
11:27:47 PM:1.0.509

Not a very helpful message!

In general, ignore this file. Some installations see an issue where this
file grows very quickly, using all available disk space. If this happens,
shut down the program and delete the file.

There are some instances involving specific error messages where the
contents of this file may be useful, but I haven't
looked
at my own for


.
 
B

Bill Sanderson

If you want a way to trigger one:

Right click the desktop and choose to create a new text file.

Call it a.bat and save it to the desktop.

Double click on it.


--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

BJ said:
Well, I'd think you'd like my system then. It's heavily
customized to be functional.

Anyway, I found that when one of those alert bloxes scroll
by, if I'm quick enough, seems like if I am in the
vertical channel that it is sliding up and I click in that
space, the box stops and returns to where the mosue
clicked. I was able to read one of these boxes that way
but haven't seen another yet to play with.
-----Original Message-----
This beta is based on code acquired from a third party-- if Microsoft had
designed if from the start, I don't think you'd have seen this issue--I'm
sure it will be fixed once we see a build with significant changes in place.

I tend to ignore the UI most of the time--I like seeing someone elses
machine where they've really done some work to make it different--gives me
ideas! I've got a machine in an office where they brought in an older
worker as a temp replacement while someone was out on maternity leave. She
set up folder bars and rearranged things in a way that seems pretty
functional to me--but I'm not convinced that she actually did it on
purpose--it may have been an accident that she just didn't know how to
reverse!

--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Thanks! I hope the problem with the vertical task bar
gets fixed soon since the alerts are useless otherwise. I
have no intention of changing to a horizontal bar as I
find that a lot more difficult to use.

I think I understand why MS went with the horizontal bar
from the beginning. Focusing on the untrained newbie and
fearing that such newbies wouldn't be comfortable using
auto-hide (where's my task bar?????), they felt that the
screen real estate at the bottom was the least obtrusive.

But most Western races read/write left to right or right
to left. A vertical bar using auto hide keeps it out of
the way without any loss of screen real estate and is a
more natural construct. The funny thing is that many
people have gotten so used to a non-hidden horizontal bar
at the bottom of the screen that they almost go into
convulsions if you move their bar and suggest they try it
on the right or left. "I don't know how to use the bar
like that", "it shouldn't be on the side", "I can't see
the bar", etc. In fact, someone once told me that Windows
wasn't designed to work with a vertical bar and that
Windows would crash if they left it in a vertical position
[lol]!


-----Original Message-----
Interspersed:

message
Just installed this thing.

1. It seems to only look at the C: drive? Don't see any
way to have it look at my other drives.

Click the link to set scan parameters, and look a bit to
the right--there's
another link to set which drives are looked at.


2. Every now and then an alert of some kind gets
triggered. A little window with info in it pops up from
the right bottom of my screen and then rapidly scrolls
off
the top of the screen, too fast to see anything. I
can't
see any way to control this action.

You have a vertical taskbar. I'm afraid the only
workaround is to set the
taskbar horizontal. This is a known bug.


3. I did a scan and something named "iLookup" got
flagged. But all the detail shows is about 15 URL's all
under a heading named GAMBLING in my Favorites folder.
These URL's are from different sites, some offical like
the California lottery site. There's also no info
available on this flag. This looks like a bum flag, so
I
set it to ignore in the future.

There are some flags which are poorly defined--certain
categories of
favorites are flagged as a whole regardless of content,
for example--I think
you made the right choice, although if you hit a bit of
adware which adds
such a category, it'll be ignored too, of course.


4. There is an errors.log file in the program folder
with
the following error:

7::ln 10:Out of
memory::gcasDtServ:ScheduleScans:Update::4/23/2005
11:27:47 PM:1.0.509

Not a very helpful message!

In general, ignore this file. Some installations see an
issue where this
file grows very quickly, using all available disk space.
If this happens,
shut down the program and delete the file.

There are some instances involving specific error
messages where the
contents of this file may be useful, but I haven't looked
at my own for
months.


.
 
D

D@annyBoy {4XX961}

this is good !!!



Bill Sanderson said:
If you want a way to trigger one:

Right click the desktop and choose to create a new text file.

Call it a.bat and save it to the desktop.

Double click on it.


--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

BJ said:
Well, I'd think you'd like my system then. It's heavily
customized to be functional.

Anyway, I found that when one of those alert bloxes scroll
by, if I'm quick enough, seems like if I am in the
vertical channel that it is sliding up and I click in that
space, the box stops and returns to where the mosue
clicked. I was able to read one of these boxes that way
but haven't seen another yet to play with.
-----Original Message-----
This beta is based on code acquired from a third party-- if Microsoft had
designed if from the start, I don't think you'd have seen this issue--I'm
sure it will be fixed once we see a build with significant changes in place.

I tend to ignore the UI most of the time--I like seeing someone elses
machine where they've really done some work to make it different--gives me
ideas! I've got a machine in an office where they brought in an older
worker as a temp replacement while someone was out on maternity leave. She
set up folder bars and rearranged things in a way that seems pretty
functional to me--but I'm not convinced that she actually did it on
purpose--it may have been an accident that she just didn't know how to
reverse!

--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Thanks! I hope the problem with the vertical task bar
gets fixed soon since the alerts are useless otherwise. I
have no intention of changing to a horizontal bar as I
find that a lot more difficult to use.

I think I understand why MS went with the horizontal bar
from the beginning. Focusing on the untrained newbie and
fearing that such newbies wouldn't be comfortable using
auto-hide (where's my task bar?????), they felt that the
screen real estate at the bottom was the least obtrusive.

But most Western races read/write left to right or right
to left. A vertical bar using auto hide keeps it out of
the way without any loss of screen real estate and is a
more natural construct. The funny thing is that many
people have gotten so used to a non-hidden horizontal bar
at the bottom of the screen that they almost go into
convulsions if you move their bar and suggest they try it
on the right or left. "I don't know how to use the bar
like that", "it shouldn't be on the side", "I can't see
the bar", etc. In fact, someone once told me that Windows
wasn't designed to work with a vertical bar and that
Windows would crash if they left it in a vertical position
[lol]!


-----Original Message-----
Interspersed:

message
Just installed this thing.

1. It seems to only look at the C: drive? Don't see any
way to have it look at my other drives.

Click the link to set scan parameters, and look a bit to
the right--there's
another link to set which drives are looked at.


2. Every now and then an alert of some kind gets
triggered. A little window with info in it pops up from
the right bottom of my screen and then rapidly scrolls
off
the top of the screen, too fast to see anything. I
can't
see any way to control this action.

You have a vertical taskbar. I'm afraid the only
workaround is to set the
taskbar horizontal. This is a known bug.


3. I did a scan and something named "iLookup" got
flagged. But all the detail shows is about 15 URL's all
under a heading named GAMBLING in my Favorites folder.
These URL's are from different sites, some offical like
the California lottery site. There's also no info
available on this flag. This looks like a bum flag, so
I
set it to ignore in the future.

There are some flags which are poorly defined--certain
categories of
favorites are flagged as a whole regardless of content,
for example--I think
you made the right choice, although if you hit a bit of
adware which adds
such a category, it'll be ignored too, of course.


4. There is an errors.log file in the program folder
with
the following error:

7::ln 10:Out of
memory::gcasDtServ:ScheduleScans:Update::4/23/2005
11:27:47 PM:1.0.509

Not a very helpful message!

In general, ignore this file. Some installations see an
issue where this
file grows very quickly, using all available disk space.
If this happens,
shut down the program and delete the file.

There are some instances involving specific error
messages where the
contents of this file may be useful, but I haven't looked
at my own for
months.


.
 
B

Bill Sanderson

What's additionally good is that it isn't a false positive, as it was at one
time during the beta.

However, it is also a one-off. Once you've approved a name, you can't reuse
it.

I've mentioned a few times the idea of something like the EICAR string to
trigger Microsoft Antispyware--and Steve Dodson mentioned it as well. I
don't know if they will implement anything like that, though.

--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

D@annyBoy {4XX961} said:
this is good !!!



Bill Sanderson said:
If you want a way to trigger one:

Right click the desktop and choose to create a new text file.

Call it a.bat and save it to the desktop.

Double click on it.


--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

BJ said:
Well, I'd think you'd like my system then. It's heavily
customized to be functional.

Anyway, I found that when one of those alert bloxes scroll
by, if I'm quick enough, seems like if I am in the
vertical channel that it is sliding up and I click in that
space, the box stops and returns to where the mosue
clicked. I was able to read one of these boxes that way
but haven't seen another yet to play with.

-----Original Message-----
This beta is based on code acquired from a third party--
if Microsoft had
designed if from the start, I don't think you'd have seen
this issue--I'm
sure it will be fixed once we see a build with
significant changes in place.

I tend to ignore the UI most of the time--I like seeing
someone elses
machine where they've really done some work to make it
different--gives me
ideas! I've got a machine in an office where they
brought in an older
worker as a temp replacement while someone was out on
maternity leave. She
set up folder bars and rearranged things in a way that
seems pretty
functional to me--but I'm not convinced that she actually
did it on
purpose--it may have been an accident that she just
didn't know how to
reverse!

--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

message
Thanks! I hope the problem with the vertical task bar
gets fixed soon since the alerts are useless
otherwise. I
have no intention of changing to a horizontal bar as I
find that a lot more difficult to use.

I think I understand why MS went with the horizontal bar
from the beginning. Focusing on the untrained newbie
and
fearing that such newbies wouldn't be comfortable using
auto-hide (where's my task bar?????), they felt that the
screen real estate at the bottom was the least
obtrusive.

But most Western races read/write left to right or right
to left. A vertical bar using auto hide keeps it out of
the way without any loss of screen real estate and is a
more natural construct. The funny thing is that many
people have gotten so used to a non-hidden horizontal
bar
at the bottom of the screen that they almost go into
convulsions if you move their bar and suggest they try
it
on the right or left. "I don't know how to use the bar
like that", "it shouldn't be on the side", "I can't see
the bar", etc. In fact, someone once told me that
Windows
wasn't designed to work with a vertical bar and that
Windows would crash if they left it in a vertical
position
[lol]!


-----Original Message-----
Interspersed:

message
Just installed this thing.

1. It seems to only look at the C: drive? Don't see
any
way to have it look at my other drives.

Click the link to set scan parameters, and look a bit to
the right--there's
another link to set which drives are looked at.


2. Every now and then an alert of some kind gets
triggered. A little window with info in it pops up
from
the right bottom of my screen and then rapidly scrolls
off
the top of the screen, too fast to see anything. I
can't
see any way to control this action.

You have a vertical taskbar. I'm afraid the only
workaround is to set the
taskbar horizontal. This is a known bug.


3. I did a scan and something named "iLookup" got
flagged. But all the detail shows is about 15 URL's
all
under a heading named GAMBLING in my Favorites folder.
These URL's are from different sites, some offical
like
the California lottery site. There's also no info
available on this flag. This looks like a bum flag,
so
I
set it to ignore in the future.

There are some flags which are poorly defined--certain
categories of
favorites are flagged as a whole regardless of content,
for example--I think
you made the right choice, although if you hit a bit of
adware which adds
such a category, it'll be ignored too, of course.


4. There is an errors.log file in the program folder
with
the following error:

7::ln 10:Out of
memory::gcasDtServ:ScheduleScans:Update::4/23/2005
11:27:47 PM:1.0.509

Not a very helpful message!

In general, ignore this file. Some installations see an
issue where this
file grows very quickly, using all available disk space.
If this happens,
shut down the program and delete the file.

There are some instances involving specific error
messages where the
contents of this file may be useful, but I haven't
looked
at my own for
months.


.
 

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