MS activated a two copies

[RScotti]

Hi,
I finally got my friend to use a legal copy of XP. It was the student edition which he says he is entitled to.
BUT He installed it on his notebook and asked me if he could install it over his pirate copy of XP on a desktop. I SAID
NO IT WOULDN'T GO THROUGH.
He did it anyway and it did go through. I don't know how this happened but it did.Well it did hurt my pride but more
important it should not have worked on the second copy since it was installed over a pirate version.
I (thought?) he said it didn't activate but did run and he got all the updates from MS Update including IE 7 which does
check for illegal copies.
Any thoughts on this?

Have a good day,
RScotti

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[Ghostrider]

Hi,
I finally got my friend to use a legal copy of XP. It was the student edition which he says he is entitled to.
BUT He installed it on his notebook and asked me if he could install it over his pirate copy of XP on a desktop. I SAID
NO IT WOULDN'T GO THROUGH.
He did it anyway and it did go through. I don't know how this happened but it did.Well it did hurt my pride but more
important it should not have worked on the second copy since it was installed over a pirate version.
I (thought?) he said it didn't activate but did run and he got all the updates from MS Update including IE 7 which does
check for illegal copies.
Any thoughts on this?

Have a good day,
RScotti

Well, first, calm down. And second, what is it really? Did it activate or
did it not? There is a difference being able to install XP and have it run
for a limited period of time versus being activated for the long term. And,
moreover, WPA involves a statistical quirk. Remember, there are no unique
product ID's that are generated and stored in the WPA database...just a
120-day supply with a limited number of repeats for each. It would be far
different is each buyer or registered user would have unique ID's for both
the product and computer in which it is installed.

 

[RScotti]

As far as I know it didn't activate but it has been a week and it is still running.
He didn't get anything that said a 30 day trial. On the first install he upgraded from Home to Professional. The second
already had Pro but was a pirate copy.
I just don't think it is fair so someone to get a way with this and we have to pay good money for it.

Well, first, calm down. And second, what is it really? Did it activate or
did it not? There is a difference being able to install XP and have it run
for a limited period of time versus being activated for the long term. And,
moreover, WPA involves a statistical quirk. Remember, there are no unique
product ID's that are generated and stored in the WPA database...just a
120-day supply with a limited number of repeats for each. It would be far
different is each buyer or registered user would have unique ID's for both
the product and computer in which it is installed.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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[Ghostrider]

As far as I know it didn't activate but it has been a week and it is still running.
He didn't get anything that said a 30 day trial. On the first install he upgraded from Home to Professional. The second
already had Pro but was a pirate copy.
I just don't think it is fair so someone to get a way with this and we have to pay good money for it.

Let's see how this pans out. One interesting game that is occurring is
obtaining VLK versions of Windows XP and some academic centers have been
known to distribute them although the normal way is to get the academic
version by purchase in the bookstore.

 

[Larry(LJL269)]

http://www.microscum.com/mmpafaq/ has interesting view.

I wonder if its true that 'Only MS's EULA states this One Computer BS,
and they have had it in their OS EULAs since Windows 3.1, and have yet
to try to enforce by legal means, in a civil court, as they've been
too afraid that they would lose. ' ?

Just my 2¢ worth. Larry

Hi,
I finally got my friend to use a legal copy of XP. It was the student edition which he says he is entitled to.
BUT He installed it on his notebook and asked me if he could install it over his pirate copy of XP on a desktop. I SAID
NO IT WOULDN'T GO THROUGH.
He did it anyway and it did go through. I don't know how this happened but it did.Well it did hurt my pride but more
important it should not have worked on the second copy since it was installed over a pirate version.
I (thought?) he said it didn't activate but did run and he got all the updates from MS Update including IE 7 which does
check for illegal copies.
Any thoughts on this?

Have a good day,
RScotti

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Any advice is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.

 

[RScotti]

Let's see how this pans out. One interesting game that is occurring is
obtaining VLK versions of Windows XP and some academic centers have been
known to distribute them although the normal way is to get the academic
version by purchase in the bookstore.

Yes that is the way it got it through the bookstore on campus.
It still shouldn't have activated though.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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[RScotti]

Good point!

http://www.microscum.com/mmpafaq/ has interesting view.

I wonder if its true that 'Only MS's EULA states this One Computer BS,
and they have had it in their OS EULAs since Windows 3.1, and have yet
to try to enforce by legal means, in a civil court, as they've been
too afraid that they would lose. ' ?

Just my 2¢ worth. Larry



Any advice is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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[GHalleck]

Yes that is the way it got it through the bookstore on campus.
It still shouldn't have activated though.

It should activate without any problems when a bona fide Volume
License Key is used. The responsibility to police the number of
units distributed and activated is the owner of the volume license.
I would not worry about it. But if you qualify and your school does
the same thing, you might as well take advantage of it. However, as
an IT administrator in academia, I personally do not condone the use
of the volume license in this manner; we also sell academic versions.

 

[RScotti]

My main point is he is using it on two different computers!

It should activate without any problems when a bona fide Volume
License Key is used. The responsibility to police the number of
units distributed and activated is the owner of the volume license.
I would not worry about it. But if you qualify and your school does
the same thing, you might as well take advantage of it. However, as
an IT administrator in academia, I personally do not condone the use
of the volume license in this manner; we also sell academic versions.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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[Joe Grover]

My guess is that it's a volume license version issued to the school, which
is already activated. It worked on the desktop because it is not an upgrade
and during the install process wipes out the existing Windows installation.

 

[RScotti]

That makes sense and your are probably right.
I just didn't think all the DVD's would have that.

My guess is that it's a volume license version issued to the school, which
is already activated. It worked on the desktop because it is not an upgrade
and during the install process wipes out the existing Windows installation.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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