Motherboard/CPU Upgrade

T

Terry Smythe

Early on, while running Win ME, I purchased WinXP Home Upgrade SP1. I
installed it FAT32 and subsequently upgraded it on-line to SP2 [NTSF]
on my 1.2Ghz computer. I have just purchased a new ASUS P5GD1-VM
motherboard and a 3.0 Intel P4 CPU. Following install of the new
MB/CPU, WinXP slips into a reboot loop without ever showing its face.
Will not boot to Safe mode.

I've been told that I must reinstall XP. If I boot to my original
XP SP1 disk, it refuses to talk to the existing SP2 version on my hard
drive. So I did a Slipstream upgrade of my original XP SP1 disk,
now up to an SP2 disk.

This SP2 disk will now talk to my SP2 installion on my hard drive, but
no longer offers the "Upgrade" option. It wants to reformat my hard
drive and do a complete reinstall. Not an acceptable option, as I
have 30 gigs of software that would need to be reinstalled.

I tried the "Repair" option, but that also fails, just drops me to the
C: prompt, with no automatic replacement or repair.

Earlier, Nepatsfan pointed me to a couple of help web sites at MVP and
TheElderGeek. One assumes "Upgrade" is an available option. The
other assumes that the "Repair" option will work. In my case,
"Upgrade" does not appear as an option, and the "Repair" option does
not work.

Microsoft's own web site has a page telling us how to upgrade a
motherboard. It also assumes "Upgrade" is an option and assumes my
original XP disk will talk to my current upgraded installation. I
could not find any other pages dealing with motherrboard upgrades.
Their own page is no help at all.

I really don't want to reformat/reinstall, huge undertaking. I now
find myself wishing I had never upgraded to XP at all. With all
previous versions of Windows, no trick at all to upgrade any and all
hardware components.

Thoughts of others.......

Regards,

Terry Smythe
Winnipeg, Canada
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

[Courtesy of MS-MVP Michael Stevens]

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| Early on, while running Win ME, I purchased WinXP Home Upgrade SP1. I
| installed it FAT32 and subsequently upgraded it on-line to SP2 [NTSF]
| on my 1.2Ghz computer. I have just purchased a new ASUS P5GD1-VM
| motherboard and a 3.0 Intel P4 CPU. Following install of the new
| MB/CPU, WinXP slips into a reboot loop without ever showing its face.
| Will not boot to Safe mode.
|
| I've been told that I must reinstall XP. If I boot to my original
| XP SP1 disk, it refuses to talk to the existing SP2 version on my hard
| drive. So I did a Slipstream upgrade of my original XP SP1 disk,
| now up to an SP2 disk.
|
| This SP2 disk will now talk to my SP2 installion on my hard drive, but
| no longer offers the "Upgrade" option. It wants to reformat my hard
| drive and do a complete reinstall. Not an acceptable option, as I
| have 30 gigs of software that would need to be reinstalled.
|
| I tried the "Repair" option, but that also fails, just drops me to the
| C: prompt, with no automatic replacement or repair.
|
| Earlier, Nepatsfan pointed me to a couple of help web sites at MVP and
| TheElderGeek. One assumes "Upgrade" is an available option. The
| other assumes that the "Repair" option will work. In my case,
| "Upgrade" does not appear as an option, and the "Repair" option does
| not work.
|
| Microsoft's own web site has a page telling us how to upgrade a
| motherboard. It also assumes "Upgrade" is an option and assumes my
| original XP disk will talk to my current upgraded installation. I
| could not find any other pages dealing with motherrboard upgrades.
| Their own page is no help at all.
|
| I really don't want to reformat/reinstall, huge undertaking. I now
| find myself wishing I had never upgraded to XP at all. With all
| previous versions of Windows, no trick at all to upgrade any and all
| hardware components.
|
| Thoughts of others.......
|
| Regards,
|
| Terry Smythe
| Winnipeg, Canada
 
T

Terry Smythe

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

[Courtesy of MS-MVP Michael Stevens]

Thankyou for the tips, appreciated. Unfortunately, I've tried them
both.

With the "moving_xp.html " approach, my original XP CD (SP1) will no
longer talk to my installed on-line updated SP2-XP system. So I
slipstreamed to a merged SP2 copy of my XP CD. Unfortunately, while
the new CD will talk to my installed system, it no longer has within
it an "upgrade" option. It wants to go directly into reformat and
reinstall, an unacceptable option, due to my 30 gigs of software that
would need to be installed.

With the "XPrepairinstall.htm " approach, that too fails completely.
My original XP CD (SP1) may have had that, but it will no longer talk
to my installed system, absolutely refuses to move past that front-end
refusal. It sees an SP2 operating system out there, and promptly
stops cold.

My slipstreamed XP CD (SP2) does say it has a "repair" option, but
when I click on it, I'm dropped instantly to the C: prompt with no
further action. At that moment I'm dead in the water.

Microsoft's web page on the topic:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824125

is of no help. Basically says the same thing as MVP's
"moving_xp.html "

The problem seems to be that I was too eager to upgrade to XP and
bought the early SP1 Upgrade version, to be used on my then WinME
system which was running just fine. That original disk has now
become utterly useless because I allowed my system to be automatically
updated. My system is now fully updated to SP2, wiping out any
further use of this original disk. So much for product loyalty. I'm
wishing now that I had never upgraded to XP at all. I wonder how
many others like me are out there, hung out to dry.

Does Microsoft has any provision for swapping my SP1 disk for an SP2
disk that I can use?

Any other thoughts?

Regards,

Terry Smythe
Winnipeg, Canada
 
M

Michael Stevens

In
Terry Smythe said:
Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

[Courtesy of MS-MVP Michael Stevens]

Thankyou for the tips, appreciated. Unfortunately, I've tried them
both.

With the "moving_xp.html " approach, my original XP CD (SP1) will no
longer talk to my installed on-line updated SP2-XP system. So I
slipstreamed to a merged SP2 copy of my XP CD. Unfortunately, while
the new CD will talk to my installed system, it no longer has within
it an "upgrade" option. It wants to go directly into reformat and
reinstall, an unacceptable option, due to my 30 gigs of software that
would need to be installed.

With the "XPrepairinstall.htm " approach, that too fails completely.
My original XP CD (SP1) may have had that, but it will no longer talk
to my installed system, absolutely refuses to move past that front-end
refusal. It sees an SP2 operating system out there, and promptly
stops cold.

My slipstreamed XP CD (SP2) does say it has a "repair" option, but
when I click on it, I'm dropped instantly to the C: prompt with no
further action. At that moment I'm dead in the water.

Microsoft's web page on the topic:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824125

is of no help. Basically says the same thing as MVP's
"moving_xp.html "

The problem seems to be that I was too eager to upgrade to XP and
bought the early SP1 Upgrade version, to be used on my then WinME
system which was running just fine. That original disk has now
become utterly useless because I allowed my system to be automatically
updated. My system is now fully updated to SP2, wiping out any
further use of this original disk. So much for product loyalty. I'm
wishing now that I had never upgraded to XP at all. I wonder how
many others like me are out there, hung out to dry.

Does Microsoft has any provision for swapping my SP1 disk for an SP2
disk that I can use?

Any other thoughts?

Regards,

Terry Smythe
Winnipeg, Canada

Try returning the system back to it's original configuration. Old
motherboard, etc. It should boot into XP. Take this opportunity to backup
your system. I suggest imaging it to an external hard drive.
Then install the new motherboard and on the first boot enter the bios and
configure the new MB.
While in the bios, set CD to boot before hard drive.
Put your XP with SP 2 CD in the CD drive.
Watch for the prompt to boot from the CD.
You can refer to either of web page you quoted for father reference.
Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
Move XP to new hardware.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
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Michael Stevens

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Michael Stevens said:
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Try returning the system back to it's original configuration. Old
motherboard, etc. It should boot into XP. Take this opportunity to
backup your system. I suggest imaging it to an external hard drive.
Then install the new motherboard and on the first boot enter the bios
and configure the new MB.
While in the bios, set CD to boot before hard drive.
Put your XP with SP 2 CD in the CD drive.
Watch for the prompt to boot from the CD.
You can refer to either of web page you quoted for father reference.
Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
Move XP to new hardware.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

Please post back with your results, and don't try booting into XP before
doing the repair install.

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(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
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T

Terry Smythe

I suggest imaging it to an external hard drive.

Done. I'm working with a second bootable copy of my main drive, both
of which I created with XXCLONE. My main drive and its backup
bootable drive are safely up on a shelf.
Then install the new motherboard and on the first boot enter the bios and
configure the new MB.
While in the bios, set CD to boot before hard drive.
Put your XP with SP 2 CD in the CD drive.
Watch for the prompt to boot from the CD.

OK, done. No clickable provision for "update", and "repair" doesn't
work. On my spare drive to my backup drive, I've just let it do an
"install" with my new MB/CPU in place. Unlike ME which simply
overwrites files, XP Home SP2 deleted the contents of c:\windows,
then installed itself fresh into an empty c:\windows directory.

My 30 gigs of software are still there, but none are accessible
because of deletion of all their .INI, DLL, cfg and splash screen
graphic files that were in c:\windows. For each and every one of
them, I must now reinstall all of them, would take me weeks. My
worst fears confirmed.

My next step is to reclone my backup drive and try again with some
other approach that might emerge from this discussion.

Thoughts of others?

Regards,

Terry Smythe
Winnipeg, Canada
 
M

Michael Stevens

In
Terry Smythe said:
Done. I'm working with a second bootable copy of my main drive, both
of which I created with XXCLONE. My main drive and its backup
bootable drive are safely up on a shelf.


OK, done. No clickable provision for "update", and "repair" doesn't
work. On my spare drive to my backup drive, I've just let it do an
"install" with my new MB/CPU in place. Unlike ME which simply
overwrites files, XP Home SP2 deleted the contents of c:\windows,
then installed itself fresh into an empty c:\windows directory.

My 30 gigs of software are still there, but none are accessible
because of deletion of all their .INI, DLL, cfg and splash screen
graphic files that were in c:\windows. For each and every one of
them, I must now reinstall all of them, would take me weeks. My
worst fears confirmed.

My next step is to reclone my backup drive and try again with some
other approach that might emerge from this discussion.

Thoughts of others?

Regards,

Terry Smythe
Winnipeg, Canada

Did you try the repair install before attempting to boot into Windows? You
were not clear on that point. Look on my repair install page for some
possible work around for the repair option not being available.
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(e-mail address removed)
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
 

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