Migrating OUTLOOK 2002 to OUTLOOK 2003

G

Guest

Doing an upgrade at the moment from office xp to office 2003 at work, going
to roll it out via group policy with a .MST, the only problem I have is that
all the setting migrate apart from the users shortcuts in outlook ..... this
is a big pain as I don't want to configure 150 users by hand just because of
the shortcuts.....anyone have any ideas????
 
R

Roady [MVP]

What shortcuts do you mean exactly?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-FREE tool; QuickMail. Create new Outlook items anywhere from within Windows
-Properly back-up and restore your Outlook data

-----
Doing an upgrade at the moment from office xp to office 2003 at work, going
to roll it out via group policy with a .MST, the only problem I have is that
all the setting migrate apart from the users shortcuts in outlook ..... this
is a big pain as I don't want to configure 150 users by hand just because of
the shortcuts.....anyone have any ideas????
 
G

Guest

Its the shortcuts within the navigation pane, if you scroll down there is a
tab called shortcuts, within there you can set up shortcuts to public folders
etc....
The way we have are users set up is so that they just click on the shortcuts
to access items in there public folders rather then them scroll thorugh the
public folders. Hope this makes sense :)
 
R

Roady [MVP]

These should migrate as well. Note that for special folders these will
migrate to the corresponding Navigation Pane. For instance a Public Calendar
folder will migrate to the Other Calendars section of the Calendar
Navigation.

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-FREE tool; QuickMail. Create new Outlook items anywhere from within Windows
-Properly back-up and restore your Outlook data

-----
Its the shortcuts within the navigation pane, if you scroll down there is a
tab called shortcuts, within there you can set up shortcuts to public
folders
etc....
The way we have are users set up is so that they just click on the shortcuts
to access items in there public folders rather then them scroll thorugh the
public folders. Hope this makes sense :)
 
G

Guest

Just tryed again this time with out the .MST file but it still does'nt copy
the shortcuts across, everything else copies over fine i.e tasks, calender
etc... apart from shortcuts in the shortcuts tab.
I have noticed that in office XP the shortcuts are copied to the OUTLOOK.FAV
folder located in C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook, but in Office 2003 the shortcuts are stored in
C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook but
instead of it being in the OUTLOOK.FAV folder it is stored in the OUTLOOK.XML
folder which I think is causing the problem......now I know the problem but
not the answer :( please help.
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]

Are you creating a new mail profile as part of the migration? Shortcuts are profile-specific, so if you create a new profile with a different name and make that the default, it can't use shortcuts from the old profile.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
 
G

Guest

Sue thankyou for your reply, what im doing is just upgrading office XP to
office 2003 not creating any new profiles just upgrading from the existing
one's. The interesting thing is if I uninstall office 2003 and go back to
office XP the shortcuts re appears without touching any profiles.
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]

I guess I don't understand what you're actually doing then, because you said "everything else copies over fine i.e tasks, calender." An in-place upgrade doesn't involve any copying of data at all. Some settings, yes, but data, no. That's what made me wonder if you're doing something other than a simple in-place upgrade. DId you look at the MST file with the viewer to confirm it doesn't have any prf file in it?
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
 
G

Guest

Sorry ignore the word coping Im just doing a simple upgrade from office XP to
office 2003, I have tryed it without the .MST file and still get the same
problem.
 
R

Roady [MVP]

Have you tried this with just one client or another one as well? If you add
a favorite to a folder/program outside Outlook XP (like for instance a
shortcut to Excel) does this shortcut get migrated?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-FREE tool; QuickMail. Create new Outlook items anywhere from within Windows
-Properly back-up and restore your Outlook data
 
G

Guest

Right I have found the answer but I don't like it :(

When doing a normal upgrade from Outlook XP to Outlook 2003 all shortcuts
are migrated into the shortcuts tab in the navigator pane apart from any
shortcuts created for PUBLIC FOLDERS. These are instead put into the MAIL tab
where you have to scroll down to public folders and now access Favorites.
Now the problem I have is that my users are so stupid they think rebooting a
pc requires you to turn your monitor off and then on :) So trying to explain
to them to access this instead will be impossible.

Why do Microsoft put the public folder shortcuts in this location instead of
putting them with the rest of the shortcuts????

I would like to thank Sue & Roady for there help so far.

Roady said:
Have you tried this with just one client or another one as well? If you add
a favorite to a folder/program outside Outlook XP (like for instance a
shortcut to Excel) does this shortcut get migrated?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-FREE tool; QuickMail. Create new Outlook items anywhere from within Windows
-Properly back-up and restore your Outlook data

-----
AJRAMBO said:
Sorry ignore the word coping Im just doing a simple upgrade from office XP
to
office 2003, I have tryed it without the .MST file and still get the same
problem.
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]

In a nutshell, Public Folders\Favorites are not shortcuts, at least not the same kind of shortcuts as those in the Shortcuts navigation pane.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers


AJRAMBO said:
Right I have found the answer but I don't like it :(

When doing a normal upgrade from Outlook XP to Outlook 2003 all shortcuts
are migrated into the shortcuts tab in the navigator pane apart from any
shortcuts created for PUBLIC FOLDERS. These are instead put into the MAIL tab
where you have to scroll down to public folders and now access Favorites.
Now the problem I have is that my users are so stupid they think rebooting a
pc requires you to turn your monitor off and then on :) So trying to explain
to them to access this instead will be impossible.

Why do Microsoft put the public folder shortcuts in this location instead of
putting them with the rest of the shortcuts????

I would like to thank Sue & Roady for there help so far.

Roady said:
Have you tried this with just one client or another one as well? If you add
a favorite to a folder/program outside Outlook XP (like for instance a
shortcut to Excel) does this shortcut get migrated?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-FREE tool; QuickMail. Create new Outlook items anywhere from within Windows
-Properly back-up and restore your Outlook data

-----
AJRAMBO said:
Sorry ignore the word coping Im just doing a simple upgrade from office XP
to
office 2003, I have tryed it without the .MST file and still get the same
problem.

:

I guess I don't understand what you're actually doing then, because you
said "everything else copies over fine i.e tasks, calender." An in-place
upgrade doesn't involve any copying of data at all. Some settings, yes,
but data, no. That's what made me wonder if you're doing something other
than a simple in-place upgrade. DId you look at the MST file with the
viewer to confirm it doesn't have any prf file in it?
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Sue thankyou for your reply, what im doing is just upgrading office XP
to
office 2003 not creating any new profiles just upgrading from the
existing
one's. The interesting thing is if I uninstall office 2003 and go back
to
office XP the shortcuts re appears without touching any profiles.

:

Are you creating a new mail profile as part of the migration?
Shortcuts are profile-specific, so if you create a new profile with a
different name and make that the default, it can't use shortcuts from
the old profile.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Just tryed again this time with out the .MST file but it still
does'nt copy
the shortcuts across, everything else copies over fine i.e tasks,
calender
etc... apart from shortcuts in the shortcuts tab.
I have noticed that in office XP the shortcuts are copied to the
OUTLOOK.FAV
folder located in C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook, but in Office 2003 the shortcuts are stored
in
C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook but
instead of it being in the OUTLOOK.FAV folder it is stored in the
OUTLOOK.XML
folder which I think is causing the problem......now I know the
problem but
not the answer :( please help.

:

Doing an upgrade at the moment from office xp to office 2003 at
work, going
to roll it out via group policy with a .MST, the only problem I
have is that
all the setting migrate apart from the users shortcuts in outlook
....... this
is a big pain as I don't want to configure 150 users by hand just
because of
the shortcuts.....anyone have any ideas????
 
G

Guest

I see what you're saying Sue but I don't understand why the shortcuts that I
have created to point to the public folders doesn't migrate across, I
understand that the public folders themselves are not shortcut but I have
created shortcuts in outlook pointing to the public folders. These are copied
into the outlook.fav folder by outlook 2002 but do not migrate over into the
outlook.xml file for outlook 2003. When I do a upgrade from outlook 2002
shouldn't everything migrate to 2003 ?

What I have noticed is that they now appear in the favorites section in
public folders in the all folders view.

I don't expect the public folders to migrate across but I do expect there
shortcuts if they have been created in outlook 2002. Normally I wouldn't care
but when you have to do over 150 users it becomes a pain. All I expect to do
is create a .mst file and role this out via group policy and not have to
worry about anything, but because of this problem and cannot do it this way.

This is not directed at you Sue as you have been very helpful and I
appreciate your help and also like your Exchange & outlook articles :)
--
ajrambo

please remember to rate this post thx :)


Sue Mosher said:
In a nutshell, Public Folders\Favorites are not shortcuts, at least not the same kind of shortcuts as those in the Shortcuts navigation pane.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers


AJRAMBO said:
Right I have found the answer but I don't like it :(

When doing a normal upgrade from Outlook XP to Outlook 2003 all shortcuts
are migrated into the shortcuts tab in the navigator pane apart from any
shortcuts created for PUBLIC FOLDERS. These are instead put into the MAIL tab
where you have to scroll down to public folders and now access Favorites.
Now the problem I have is that my users are so stupid they think rebooting a
pc requires you to turn your monitor off and then on :) So trying to explain
to them to access this instead will be impossible.

Why do Microsoft put the public folder shortcuts in this location instead of
putting them with the rest of the shortcuts????

I would like to thank Sue & Roady for there help so far.

Roady said:
Have you tried this with just one client or another one as well? If you add
a favorite to a folder/program outside Outlook XP (like for instance a
shortcut to Excel) does this shortcut get migrated?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-FREE tool; QuickMail. Create new Outlook items anywhere from within Windows
-Properly back-up and restore your Outlook data

-----
Sorry ignore the word coping Im just doing a simple upgrade from office XP
to
office 2003, I have tryed it without the .MST file and still get the same
problem.

:

I guess I don't understand what you're actually doing then, because you
said "everything else copies over fine i.e tasks, calender." An in-place
upgrade doesn't involve any copying of data at all. Some settings, yes,
but data, no. That's what made me wonder if you're doing something other
than a simple in-place upgrade. DId you look at the MST file with the
viewer to confirm it doesn't have any prf file in it?
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Sue thankyou for your reply, what im doing is just upgrading office XP
to
office 2003 not creating any new profiles just upgrading from the
existing
one's. The interesting thing is if I uninstall office 2003 and go back
to
office XP the shortcuts re appears without touching any profiles.

:

Are you creating a new mail profile as part of the migration?
Shortcuts are profile-specific, so if you create a new profile with a
different name and make that the default, it can't use shortcuts from
the old profile.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Just tryed again this time with out the .MST file but it still
does'nt copy
the shortcuts across, everything else copies over fine i.e tasks,
calender
etc... apart from shortcuts in the shortcuts tab.
I have noticed that in office XP the shortcuts are copied to the
OUTLOOK.FAV
folder located in C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook, but in Office 2003 the shortcuts are stored
in
C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook but
instead of it being in the OUTLOOK.FAV folder it is stored in the
OUTLOOK.XML
folder which I think is causing the problem......now I know the
problem but
not the answer :( please help.

:

Doing an upgrade at the moment from office xp to office 2003 at
work, going
to roll it out via group policy with a .MST, the only problem I
have is that
all the setting migrate apart from the users shortcuts in outlook
....... this
is a big pain as I don't want to configure 150 users by hand just
because of
the shortcuts.....anyone have any ideas????
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]

I just want to make sure I understand you correctly: Are you saying that the shortcuts that you had in the Outlook Bar in Outlook 2002 did not migrate to the Shortcuts pane in Outlook 2003? And this affected only shortcuts to Public Folders\Favorites folders?

My sense is that the Shortcuts pane is there for backwards compability but hardly anyone is using it in Outlook 2003 because it's so hard to discover.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers


AJRAMBO said:
I see what you're saying Sue but I don't understand why the shortcuts that I
have created to point to the public folders doesn't migrate across, I
understand that the public folders themselves are not shortcut but I have
created shortcuts in outlook pointing to the public folders. These are copied
into the outlook.fav folder by outlook 2002 but do not migrate over into the
outlook.xml file for outlook 2003. When I do a upgrade from outlook 2002
shouldn't everything migrate to 2003 ?

What I have noticed is that they now appear in the favorites section in
public folders in the all folders view.

I don't expect the public folders to migrate across but I do expect there
shortcuts if they have been created in outlook 2002. Normally I wouldn't care
but when you have to do over 150 users it becomes a pain. All I expect to do
is create a .mst file and role this out via group policy and not have to
worry about anything, but because of this problem and cannot do it this way.

This is not directed at you Sue as you have been very helpful and I
appreciate your help and also like your Exchange & outlook articles :)
--
ajrambo

please remember to rate this post thx :)


Sue Mosher said:
In a nutshell, Public Folders\Favorites are not shortcuts, at least not the same kind of shortcuts as those in the Shortcuts navigation pane.

AJRAMBO said:
Right I have found the answer but I don't like it :(

When doing a normal upgrade from Outlook XP to Outlook 2003 all shortcuts
are migrated into the shortcuts tab in the navigator pane apart from any
shortcuts created for PUBLIC FOLDERS. These are instead put into the MAIL tab
where you have to scroll down to public folders and now access Favorites.
Now the problem I have is that my users are so stupid they think rebooting a
pc requires you to turn your monitor off and then on :) So trying to explain
to them to access this instead will be impossible.

Why do Microsoft put the public folder shortcuts in this location instead of
putting them with the rest of the shortcuts????

I would like to thank Sue & Roady for there help so far.

:

Have you tried this with just one client or another one as well? If you add
a favorite to a folder/program outside Outlook XP (like for instance a
shortcut to Excel) does this shortcut get migrated?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-FREE tool; QuickMail. Create new Outlook items anywhere from within Windows
-Properly back-up and restore your Outlook data

-----
Sorry ignore the word coping Im just doing a simple upgrade from office XP
to
office 2003, I have tryed it without the .MST file and still get the same
problem.

:

I guess I don't understand what you're actually doing then, because you
said "everything else copies over fine i.e tasks, calender." An in-place
upgrade doesn't involve any copying of data at all. Some settings, yes,
but data, no. That's what made me wonder if you're doing something other
than a simple in-place upgrade. DId you look at the MST file with the
viewer to confirm it doesn't have any prf file in it?
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Sue thankyou for your reply, what im doing is just upgrading office XP
to
office 2003 not creating any new profiles just upgrading from the
existing
one's. The interesting thing is if I uninstall office 2003 and go back
to
office XP the shortcuts re appears without touching any profiles.

:

Are you creating a new mail profile as part of the migration?
Shortcuts are profile-specific, so if you create a new profile with a
different name and make that the default, it can't use shortcuts from
the old profile.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Just tryed again this time with out the .MST file but it still
does'nt copy
the shortcuts across, everything else copies over fine i.e tasks,
calender
etc... apart from shortcuts in the shortcuts tab.
I have noticed that in office XP the shortcuts are copied to the
OUTLOOK.FAV
folder located in C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook, but in Office 2003 the shortcuts are stored
in
C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook but
instead of it being in the OUTLOOK.FAV folder it is stored in the
OUTLOOK.XML
folder which I think is causing the problem......now I know the
problem but
not the answer :( please help.

:

Doing an upgrade at the moment from office xp to office 2003 at
work, going
to roll it out via group policy with a .MST, the only problem I
have is that
all the setting migrate apart from the users shortcuts in outlook
....... this
is a big pain as I don't want to configure 150 users by hand just
because of
the shortcuts.....anyone have any ideas????
 
G

Guest

Hello again,
Yea thats correct, I agree that users should not really be using this
method but as they are used to earlier versions of outlook they demand it
"City traders are very hard work" :) , so just so I understand is microsoft
trying to get away from this function in future releases of outlook?

Thanks Again I know this one has gone on for a long time now :)
--
ajrambo

please remember to rate this post thx :)


Sue Mosher said:
I just want to make sure I understand you correctly: Are you saying that the shortcuts that you had in the Outlook Bar in Outlook 2002 did not migrate to the Shortcuts pane in Outlook 2003? And this affected only shortcuts to Public Folders\Favorites folders?

My sense is that the Shortcuts pane is there for backwards compability but hardly anyone is using it in Outlook 2003 because it's so hard to discover.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers


AJRAMBO said:
I see what you're saying Sue but I don't understand why the shortcuts that I
have created to point to the public folders doesn't migrate across, I
understand that the public folders themselves are not shortcut but I have
created shortcuts in outlook pointing to the public folders. These are copied
into the outlook.fav folder by outlook 2002 but do not migrate over into the
outlook.xml file for outlook 2003. When I do a upgrade from outlook 2002
shouldn't everything migrate to 2003 ?

What I have noticed is that they now appear in the favorites section in
public folders in the all folders view.

I don't expect the public folders to migrate across but I do expect there
shortcuts if they have been created in outlook 2002. Normally I wouldn't care
but when you have to do over 150 users it becomes a pain. All I expect to do
is create a .mst file and role this out via group policy and not have to
worry about anything, but because of this problem and cannot do it this way.

This is not directed at you Sue as you have been very helpful and I
appreciate your help and also like your Exchange & outlook articles :)
--
ajrambo

please remember to rate this post thx :)


Sue Mosher said:
In a nutshell, Public Folders\Favorites are not shortcuts, at least not the same kind of shortcuts as those in the Shortcuts navigation pane.

Right I have found the answer but I don't like it :(

When doing a normal upgrade from Outlook XP to Outlook 2003 all shortcuts
are migrated into the shortcuts tab in the navigator pane apart from any
shortcuts created for PUBLIC FOLDERS. These are instead put into the MAIL tab
where you have to scroll down to public folders and now access Favorites.
Now the problem I have is that my users are so stupid they think rebooting a
pc requires you to turn your monitor off and then on :) So trying to explain
to them to access this instead will be impossible.

Why do Microsoft put the public folder shortcuts in this location instead of
putting them with the rest of the shortcuts????

I would like to thank Sue & Roady for there help so far.

:

Have you tried this with just one client or another one as well? If you add
a favorite to a folder/program outside Outlook XP (like for instance a
shortcut to Excel) does this shortcut get migrated?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-FREE tool; QuickMail. Create new Outlook items anywhere from within Windows
-Properly back-up and restore your Outlook data

-----
Sorry ignore the word coping Im just doing a simple upgrade from office XP
to
office 2003, I have tryed it without the .MST file and still get the same
problem.

:

I guess I don't understand what you're actually doing then, because you
said "everything else copies over fine i.e tasks, calender." An in-place
upgrade doesn't involve any copying of data at all. Some settings, yes,
but data, no. That's what made me wonder if you're doing something other
than a simple in-place upgrade. DId you look at the MST file with the
viewer to confirm it doesn't have any prf file in it?
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Sue thankyou for your reply, what im doing is just upgrading office XP
to
office 2003 not creating any new profiles just upgrading from the
existing
one's. The interesting thing is if I uninstall office 2003 and go back
to
office XP the shortcuts re appears without touching any profiles.

:

Are you creating a new mail profile as part of the migration?
Shortcuts are profile-specific, so if you create a new profile with a
different name and make that the default, it can't use shortcuts from
the old profile.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Just tryed again this time with out the .MST file but it still
does'nt copy
the shortcuts across, everything else copies over fine i.e tasks,
calender
etc... apart from shortcuts in the shortcuts tab.
I have noticed that in office XP the shortcuts are copied to the
OUTLOOK.FAV
folder located in C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook, but in Office 2003 the shortcuts are stored
in
C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook but
instead of it being in the OUTLOOK.FAV folder it is stored in the
OUTLOOK.XML
folder which I think is causing the problem......now I know the
problem but
not the answer :( please help.

:

Doing an upgrade at the moment from office xp to office 2003 at
work, going
to roll it out via group policy with a .MST, the only problem I
have is that
all the setting migrate apart from the users shortcuts in outlook
....... this
is a big pain as I don't want to configure 150 users by hand just
because of
the shortcuts.....anyone have any ideas????
 
S

Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]

I ran across something last week that suggested that there is a default setting in Outlook 2003 that migrates any shortcuts to PF Favs to the navigation panes, but not to the Shortcuts pane. Unfortunately, I can't find it again. I think there was a registry setting involved that could override that behavior. I'll keep looking and post back if I do find it.

The Shortcuts feature is already pretty much pushed to the back burner. Outlook 2007 still has it, but you certainly can't expect any feature development for it.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers


AJRAMBO said:
Hello again,
Yea thats correct, I agree that users should not really be using this
method but as they are used to earlier versions of outlook they demand it
"City traders are very hard work" :) , so just so I understand is microsoft
trying to get away from this function in future releases of outlook?

Thanks Again I know this one has gone on for a long time now :)
--
ajrambo

please remember to rate this post thx :)


Sue Mosher said:
I just want to make sure I understand you correctly: Are you saying that the shortcuts that you had in the Outlook Bar in Outlook 2002 did not migrate to the Shortcuts pane in Outlook 2003? And this affected only shortcuts to Public Folders\Favorites folders?

My sense is that the Shortcuts pane is there for backwards compability but hardly anyone is using it in Outlook 2003 because it's so hard to discover.

AJRAMBO said:
I see what you're saying Sue but I don't understand why the shortcuts that I
have created to point to the public folders doesn't migrate across, I
understand that the public folders themselves are not shortcut but I have
created shortcuts in outlook pointing to the public folders. These are copied
into the outlook.fav folder by outlook 2002 but do not migrate over into the
outlook.xml file for outlook 2003. When I do a upgrade from outlook 2002
shouldn't everything migrate to 2003 ?

What I have noticed is that they now appear in the favorites section in
public folders in the all folders view.

I don't expect the public folders to migrate across but I do expect there
shortcuts if they have been created in outlook 2002. Normally I wouldn't care
but when you have to do over 150 users it becomes a pain. All I expect to do
is create a .mst file and role this out via group policy and not have to
worry about anything, but because of this problem and cannot do it this way.

This is not directed at you Sue as you have been very helpful and I
appreciate your help and also like your Exchange & outlook articles :)
--
ajrambo

please remember to rate this post thx :)


:

In a nutshell, Public Folders\Favorites are not shortcuts, at least not the same kind of shortcuts as those in the Shortcuts navigation pane.
Right I have found the answer but I don't like it :(

When doing a normal upgrade from Outlook XP to Outlook 2003 all shortcuts
are migrated into the shortcuts tab in the navigator pane apart from any
shortcuts created for PUBLIC FOLDERS. These are instead put into the MAIL tab
where you have to scroll down to public folders and now access Favorites.
Now the problem I have is that my users are so stupid they think rebooting a
pc requires you to turn your monitor off and then on :) So trying to explain
to them to access this instead will be impossible.

Why do Microsoft put the public folder shortcuts in this location instead of
putting them with the rest of the shortcuts????

I would like to thank Sue & Roady for there help so far.

:

Have you tried this with just one client or another one as well? If you add
a favorite to a folder/program outside Outlook XP (like for instance a
shortcut to Excel) does this shortcut get migrated?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-FREE tool; QuickMail. Create new Outlook items anywhere from within Windows
-Properly back-up and restore your Outlook data

-----
Sorry ignore the word coping Im just doing a simple upgrade from office XP
to
office 2003, I have tryed it without the .MST file and still get the same
problem.

:

I guess I don't understand what you're actually doing then, because you
said "everything else copies over fine i.e tasks, calender." An in-place
upgrade doesn't involve any copying of data at all. Some settings, yes,
but data, no. That's what made me wonder if you're doing something other
than a simple in-place upgrade. DId you look at the MST file with the
viewer to confirm it doesn't have any prf file in it?
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Sue thankyou for your reply, what im doing is just upgrading office XP
to
office 2003 not creating any new profiles just upgrading from the
existing
one's. The interesting thing is if I uninstall office 2003 and go back
to
office XP the shortcuts re appears without touching any profiles.

:

Are you creating a new mail profile as part of the migration?
Shortcuts are profile-specific, so if you create a new profile with a
different name and make that the default, it can't use shortcuts from
the old profile.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Just tryed again this time with out the .MST file but it still
does'nt copy
the shortcuts across, everything else copies over fine i.e tasks,
calender
etc... apart from shortcuts in the shortcuts tab.
I have noticed that in office XP the shortcuts are copied to the
OUTLOOK.FAV
folder located in C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook, but in Office 2003 the shortcuts are stored
in
C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook but
instead of it being in the OUTLOOK.FAV folder it is stored in the
OUTLOOK.XML
folder which I think is causing the problem......now I know the
problem but
not the answer :( please help.

:

Doing an upgrade at the moment from office xp to office 2003 at
work, going
to roll it out via group policy with a .MST, the only problem I
have is that
all the setting migrate apart from the users shortcuts in outlook
....... this
is a big pain as I don't want to configure 150 users by hand just
because of
the shortcuts.....anyone have any ideas????
 
G

Guest

Thankyou Sue I appreciate your help.
--
ajrambo

please remember to rate this post thx :)


Sue Mosher said:
I ran across something last week that suggested that there is a default setting in Outlook 2003 that migrates any shortcuts to PF Favs to the navigation panes, but not to the Shortcuts pane. Unfortunately, I can't find it again. I think there was a registry setting involved that could override that behavior. I'll keep looking and post back if I do find it.

The Shortcuts feature is already pretty much pushed to the back burner. Outlook 2007 still has it, but you certainly can't expect any feature development for it.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers


AJRAMBO said:
Hello again,
Yea thats correct, I agree that users should not really be using this
method but as they are used to earlier versions of outlook they demand it
"City traders are very hard work" :) , so just so I understand is microsoft
trying to get away from this function in future releases of outlook?

Thanks Again I know this one has gone on for a long time now :)
--
ajrambo

please remember to rate this post thx :)


Sue Mosher said:
I just want to make sure I understand you correctly: Are you saying that the shortcuts that you had in the Outlook Bar in Outlook 2002 did not migrate to the Shortcuts pane in Outlook 2003? And this affected only shortcuts to Public Folders\Favorites folders?

My sense is that the Shortcuts pane is there for backwards compability but hardly anyone is using it in Outlook 2003 because it's so hard to discover.

I see what you're saying Sue but I don't understand why the shortcuts that I
have created to point to the public folders doesn't migrate across, I
understand that the public folders themselves are not shortcut but I have
created shortcuts in outlook pointing to the public folders. These are copied
into the outlook.fav folder by outlook 2002 but do not migrate over into the
outlook.xml file for outlook 2003. When I do a upgrade from outlook 2002
shouldn't everything migrate to 2003 ?

What I have noticed is that they now appear in the favorites section in
public folders in the all folders view.

I don't expect the public folders to migrate across but I do expect there
shortcuts if they have been created in outlook 2002. Normally I wouldn't care
but when you have to do over 150 users it becomes a pain. All I expect to do
is create a .mst file and role this out via group policy and not have to
worry about anything, but because of this problem and cannot do it this way.

This is not directed at you Sue as you have been very helpful and I
appreciate your help and also like your Exchange & outlook articles :)
--
ajrambo

please remember to rate this post thx :)


:

In a nutshell, Public Folders\Favorites are not shortcuts, at least not the same kind of shortcuts as those in the Shortcuts navigation pane.


Right I have found the answer but I don't like it :(

When doing a normal upgrade from Outlook XP to Outlook 2003 all shortcuts
are migrated into the shortcuts tab in the navigator pane apart from any
shortcuts created for PUBLIC FOLDERS. These are instead put into the MAIL tab
where you have to scroll down to public folders and now access Favorites.
Now the problem I have is that my users are so stupid they think rebooting a
pc requires you to turn your monitor off and then on :) So trying to explain
to them to access this instead will be impossible.

Why do Microsoft put the public folder shortcuts in this location instead of
putting them with the rest of the shortcuts????

I would like to thank Sue & Roady for there help so far.

:

Have you tried this with just one client or another one as well? If you add
a favorite to a folder/program outside Outlook XP (like for instance a
shortcut to Excel) does this shortcut get migrated?

--
Robert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook]
www.howto-outlook.com

Tips of the month:
-FREE tool; QuickMail. Create new Outlook items anywhere from within Windows
-Properly back-up and restore your Outlook data

-----
Sorry ignore the word coping Im just doing a simple upgrade from office XP
to
office 2003, I have tryed it without the .MST file and still get the same
problem.

:

I guess I don't understand what you're actually doing then, because you
said "everything else copies over fine i.e tasks, calender." An in-place
upgrade doesn't involve any copying of data at all. Some settings, yes,
but data, no. That's what made me wonder if you're doing something other
than a simple in-place upgrade. DId you look at the MST file with the
viewer to confirm it doesn't have any prf file in it?
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Sue thankyou for your reply, what im doing is just upgrading office XP
to
office 2003 not creating any new profiles just upgrading from the
existing
one's. The interesting thing is if I uninstall office 2003 and go back
to
office XP the shortcuts re appears without touching any profiles.

:

Are you creating a new mail profile as part of the migration?
Shortcuts are profile-specific, so if you create a new profile with a
different name and make that the default, it can't use shortcuts from
the old profile.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers



Just tryed again this time with out the .MST file but it still
does'nt copy
the shortcuts across, everything else copies over fine i.e tasks,
calender
etc... apart from shortcuts in the shortcuts tab.
I have noticed that in office XP the shortcuts are copied to the
OUTLOOK.FAV
folder located in C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook, but in Office 2003 the shortcuts are stored
in
C:\Documents and Settings\stevensa\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook but
instead of it being in the OUTLOOK.FAV folder it is stored in the
OUTLOOK.XML
folder which I think is causing the problem......now I know the
problem but
not the answer :( please help.

:

Doing an upgrade at the moment from office xp to office 2003 at
work, going
to roll it out via group policy with a .MST, the only problem I
have is that
all the setting migrate apart from the users shortcuts in outlook
....... this
is a big pain as I don't want to configure 150 users by hand just
because of
the shortcuts.....anyone have any ideas????
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Top