Microsoft Java virtual machine - HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Richard M.

Hi,

I only have I.E. 5.5, but not with full version.
I need to download microsoft java virtual machine, but
microsoft redirect to sun site.
I can´t use I.E. 6, because the application only support
I.E 5.5.
Where i can download microsoft java virtual machine ?
 
Forget about it !

It is a dead product because Microsoft violated the terms of their agreement with SUN and
was sued. MS has been barred from further production and really can't provide Java
anymore. At best, they can provide Security Updates for a little less than one year from
now.

There is no reason why any application should be dependent upon MS Java therefore --
download Sun Java.

Dave




Hi,

I only have I.E. 5.5, but not with full version.
I need to download microsoft java virtual machine, but
microsoft redirect to sun site.
I can´t use I.E. 6, because the application only support
I.E 5.5.
Where i can download microsoft java virtual machine ?
 
It sure is nice to finally have an explanation of what happened. I knew it
was all some result of legal issues, but I didn't know what. Damn everyone!

Ray at work
 
I already download Sun Java J2 SE 1.4.1_05 (jre), but
didn´t function.
In the browser i cannot see java options.
What´s your advice to resolve this problem?

Thanks,
-----Original Message-----
Forget about it !

It is a dead product because Microsoft violated the terms
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of their agreement with SUN and
was sued. MS has been barred from further production and really can't provide Java
anymore. At best, they can provide Security Updates for
Click to expand...
a little less than one year from
now.

There is no reason why any application should be
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dependent upon MS Java therefore --
 
Make sure IT is the Java to be used by going into the Java applet in Control Panel. Make
sure it is marked to be used by IE.

Dave



I already download Sun Java J2 SE 1.4.1_05 (jre), but
didn´t function.
In the browser i cannot see java options.
What´s your advice to resolve this problem?

Thanks,
-----Original Message-----
Forget about it !

It is a dead product because Microsoft violated the terms
Click to expand...
of their agreement with SUN and
was sued. MS has been barred from further production and really can't provide Java
anymore. At best, they can provide Security Updates for
Click to expand...
a little less than one year from
now.

There is no reason why any application should be
Click to expand...
dependent upon MS Java therefore --
 
David H. Lipman said:
Forget about it !

It is a dead product because Microsoft violated the terms of their agreement with SUN and
was sued. MS has been barred from further production and really can't provide Java
anymore. At best, they can provide Security Updates for a little less than one year from
now.

There is no reason why any application should be dependent upon MS Java therefore --
download Sun Java.

Dave


Hi,

I only have I.E. 5.5, but not with full version.
I need to download microsoft java virtual machine, but
microsoft redirect to sun site.
I can´t use I.E. 6, because the application only support
I.E 5.5.
Where i can download microsoft java virtual machine ?
Click to expand...

Isn't MVM 5.00.3810 available for download? We got that not too long
ago.
 
It may be available as a full-install somewhere. You would have to know a specific URL as
it hidden as a result of the lawsuit filed buy Sun.

Dave


| "David H. Lipman" wrote:
| >
| > Forget about it !
| >
| > It is a dead product because Microsoft violated the terms of their agreement with SUN
and
| > was sued. MS has been barred from further production and really can't provide Java
| > anymore. At best, they can provide Security Updates for a little less than one year
from
| > now.
| >
| > There is no reason why any application should be dependent upon MS Java therefore --
| > download Sun Java.
| >
| > Dave
| >
| > | >
| > Hi,
| >
| > I only have I.E. 5.5, but not with full version.
| > I need to download microsoft java virtual machine, but
| > microsoft redirect to sun site.
| > I can´t use I.E. 6, because the application only support
| > I.E 5.5.
| > Where i can download microsoft java virtual machine ?
|
| Isn't MVM 5.00.3810 available for download? We got that not too long
| ago.
| --
| Ricardo M. Urbano
| Microsoft Windows 2000/NT MVP
 
Just do a google search for Microsoft Virtual Machine, you wont find it on the MS site though. I am having the same problem as eveyone else is. I can get the download to happen no error msg, but it wil not talk to IE. It not available in the advance tab of the browser and I cant get windows 2k accept the choice of using it in control panel. I am at a loss....It's true there ARE programs out there that only run on the MS brand of VM!!!! I just upgraded from 98 to 2k pro. the upgrade was pretty much a sinch except for this. If anyone has any sugestions PLEASE HELP!
 
Insurancegirl said:
It's true there ARE programs out there that only run on the MS brand of VM!!!!
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Well if that's true, then your only option is to contact the authors
of these programs and tell them MS is no longer licensed to
distribute Java, and ask them to please update their software.

Rick
 
Been there, done that. BIG MEGA CORP that they are said they are working on it. Hmmmmmm dosn't help me now. Any other ideas???? It's worked before on 98, do you thing SP4 has anything to do with the problem????? IG
 
Insurancegirl said:
Been there, done that. BIG MEGA CORP that they are said they are working on it. Hmmmmmm dosn't help me now. Any other ideas????
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It's worked before on 98, do you thing SP4 has anything to do with the problem????? IG

Yes. I forget which SP it was (I think it was 4), but at some
point MS stopped distributing their version of Java VM, per
court order.

Rick
 
Hi I. Girl - You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the
following
sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm

and check whether you have the MS VM installed and which version here:
http://www.visualware.com/personal/support/index.html#java

There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
http://www.javatester.org/installing.html

Be aware, however, that after Sept. 30, 2004, MS will apparently no longer
be distributing Java or providing any support for Java including
security fixes. (It's unclear as to how 6/26/03 court decision will
affect this) See here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/news/jre.asp, and
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ ,and more recently here:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....RBAELCFEY?type=technologyNews&storyID=3572282
so you
might want to start thinking about the future.

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using
the dropdown)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java
plug-in here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html



For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3809 prior to upgrading
to v. 3810 if you didn't previous have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809
installed.

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and
install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87D5474AC9DCD.exe
or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...icrosoft.Q810030_W2K_SP4_5849/Q810030_W2K.exe

For Win2000 SP4, you'll need to re-install v.3805, from here:
http://www.nhyrvana.com/files/pop.cgi?file=win2kmsjavx86.zip It will
download as Pop.zip. Just unzip it and then execute the resultant
msjavx86. This is the only version that I know of that will re-install
under SP4.

For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
http://www.nhyrvana.com/files/pop.cgi?file=3809.exe (it will be named
pop.exe), or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...XP/com_microsoft.javavm_3809_5853/msjavwu.exe,
or here:
http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe


Then upgrade to v. 3810:

For all OS's except Win2k, obtain v. 3810 here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631

For all versions of Win2k - SP2, SP3 or SP4 - obtain v. 3810 here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe

Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select
which one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart
all IE browsers. Here, courtesy of Michel Gallant, MVP Security, is a
tiny utility which allows you to toggle and view status of your current
Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://pages.istar.ca/~neutron/SelectIEJVM

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility:
If/when you install a new version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually
select to have Sun JVM as default JVM for IE (in install), or after
install
via the JavaPlugin control panel. This generates the necessary win32
registry
entries, which must be present for the utility to know about JavaPlugin.
After that, the utility should work properly."



--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



In
 
Hi Ricardo - You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the
following
sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm

and check whether you have the MS VM installed and which version here:
http://www.visualware.com/personal/support/index.html#java

There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
http://www.javatester.org/installing.html

Be aware, however, that after Sept. 30, 2004, MS will apparently no longer
be distributing Java or providing any support for Java including
security fixes. (It's unclear as to how 6/26/03 court decision will
affect this) See here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/news/jre.asp, and
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ ,and more recently here:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....RBAELCFEY?type=technologyNews&storyID=3572282
so you
might want to start thinking about the future.

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using
the dropdown)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java
plug-in here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html



For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3809 prior to upgrading
to v. 3810 if you didn't previous have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809
installed.

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and
install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87D5474AC9DCD.exe
or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...icrosoft.Q810030_W2K_SP4_5849/Q810030_W2K.exe

For Win2000 SP4, you'll need to re-install v.3805, from here:
http://www.nhyrvana.com/files/pop.cgi?file=win2kmsjavx86.zip It will
download as Pop.zip. Just unzip it and then execute the resultant
msjavx86. This is the only version that I know of that will re-install
under SP4.

For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
http://www.nhyrvana.com/files/pop.cgi?file=3809.exe (it will be named
pop.exe), or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...XP/com_microsoft.javavm_3809_5853/msjavwu.exe,
or here:
http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe


Then upgrade to v. 3810:

For all OS's except Win2k, obtain v. 3810 here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631

For all versions of Win2k - SP2, SP3 or SP4 - obtain v. 3810 here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe

Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select
which one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart
all IE browsers. Here, courtesy of Michel Gallant, MVP Security, is a
tiny utility which allows you to toggle and view status of your current
Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://pages.istar.ca/~neutron/SelectIEJVM

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility:
If/when you install a new version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually
select to have Sun JVM as default JVM for IE (in install), or after
install
via the JavaPlugin control panel. This generates the necessary win32
registry
entries, which must be present for the utility to know about JavaPlugin.
After that, the utility should work properly."



--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



In
 
Thanks for responding to my inquiries Rick...this is more han I have received in any other forum...most people just ignore the post anymore. Is't frustrating. MS virtual Machine is installed on my machine, it is just not talking to Windows or IE. This is only the first of 15 PC's I have to upgrade. The Sun version works, just not on the program I really need it to. This is so not logical, if it's there it should work... I know I am just overlooking something. Well it's Friday and Monday will come soon enough.....My husband says get a mac!...HAHAHAHAHAH! I will monitor the board and keep searching. Thanks again. Have a great weekend. IG
 
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