Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta1.

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Fwall4 said:
Hi, McCarty and all others who commented on my question:
I know of the 1.0.701 version, it automatically downloaded last
night. So you say there could be a BETA2 and maybe 3, 4, 5.... will
it ever end? Like Ken said: "until MS decides it's good enough to be
resleased"... which according to kurttrail may never happen.
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Oh, MS will remove the Beta tag, but that doesn't mean the code isn't
gonna still be a work-in-progress.
And,
Plato, if I knew who the author(s) of this is (are) I would like to
pose the same question to him (them) or her (I want to be politically
correct and not leave out the feminine aspect... lol). In the
meantime I'll just enjoy the freebie. Wishing you all a happy Holiday
Season,
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ANONYMOUS said:
What else do you want. I prefer to control what is coming in NOT (I
repeat NOT) what is going out.
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Cool! I love it when someone exposes themself as an idiot.

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Peter said:
Seriously, what's not good enough about it right now that it should
stay in Beta? Seems like a very solid and capable app as it is now.
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LOL! Place your faith in false gods!

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Steve said:
But the fact remains it is not a full firewall, only can block incomming
traffic.
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I used to take issue when folks said it was "not a full firewall".

But, if you take it to basics, it's true, it's not a full firewall. eg
Take a "real" firewall ie the cinder block dividers between townhouses
in London that even go one story above the roof. It will block fire both
ways.
 
ANONYMOUS said:
What else do you want. I prefer to control what is coming in NOT (I
repeat NOT) what is going out.
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Personally I'm generally more concerned about what's going out (e.g.
some scumware logging my bank account password and sending it home)
than what's coming in. It's also interesting to see just how much
legitimate software 'phones home' even when I explicitly tell it not
to.

Mark
 
Personally I'm generally more concerned about what's going out (e.g.
some scumware logging my bank account password and sending it home)
than what's coming in. It's also interesting to see just how much
legitimate software 'phones home' even when I explicitly tell it not
to.
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Oddly. When going to a link for a .pdf. My pc hails ZA and wants me to
allow Adobe Acrabat to axs the internet. I say NO, and am still able to
view the link.
 
Well then you need a better way to manage your bank details and
passwords. I never store passwords in any web based forms because I
don't trust any of the installed programs. How many times you have been
told that MS has fixed all bugs and that OS is completely safe (You need
SP2 the wonder drug!!) only to find that you need a new patch to fix
something which MS didn't know about.

Rogue programs phonning home is a thing of the past. My modem cable is
never attached. DSL modems don't allow this. So again not a problem.
what do you use dial up modems for? the only thing I can think of is
for Fax software but for most home users this may not be a regular
event!

You need to be concerned about incoming traffic because spyware writers
are using new technology which enables their stuff to hide and remain
undetectable for years! The current antivirus programs can't scan
hidden programs. MS antispyware program will be able to scan these
programs such as SONY RootKit etc. Time will tell!!. F-Secure have a
tool to scan but you have to do it manually. A tall order to do it
everyday!
 
ANONYMOUS said:
Well then you need a better way to manage your bank details and
passwords. I never store passwords in any web based forms because I
don't trust any of the installed programs. How many times you have been
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Agreed. Never have ANY browser save your log on info and/or passwords.
 
Peter said:
Seriously, what's not good enough about it right now that it should
stay in Beta? Seems like a very solid and capable app as it is now.
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A good question. I don't know the answer. Like you I find that it works well
and is very stable. This product starts out better than most betas because
it was bought, rather than developed in house, and the bought prodcut had
already gone through its rounds of testing. Why Microsoft continues to keep
this a beta, I don't know, but it's their call, not mine or yours.
 
kurttrail said:
LOL! Place your faith in false gods!
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Have you even used it or do you just pass judgment on something you have no
clue about? I vote for "B".
 
Plato said:
Oddly. When going to a link for a .pdf. My pc hails ZA and wants me to
allow Adobe Acrabat to axs the internet. I say NO, and am still able to
view the link.
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Yup. See it all the time. Needless net banter.

Steve N.
 
Peter said:
Have you even used it or do you just pass judgment on something you
have no clue about? I vote for "B".
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Again you place your faith in false gods.

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ANONYMOUS said:
Well then you need a better way to manage your bank details and
passwords.
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Telepathy, maybe?
I never store passwords in any web based forms because I
don't trust any of the installed programs.
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You don't need to. All you need to do is type it into the web browser
and your key-logging scumware now has the password. If you enter it
into the computer in any way, then scumware can steal it: the only way
to be safe is not to use the computer to access the site, or not to
have any scumware on your system... and to block outgoing connections
by default so that if the scumware tries to 'phone home' it will
probably be blocked by the firewall.
Rogue programs phonning home is a thing of the past. My modem cable is
never attached. DSL modems don't allow this.
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Have you ever heard of TCP/IP? It's this new-fangled thing that lets
programs talk to other programs on remote machines, I believe there's a
whole network based on it called 'The Internet' or something.
You need to be concerned about incoming traffic because spyware writers
are using new technology which enables their stuff to hide and remain
undetectable for years!
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I am concerned about incoming traffic, but if the scumware can't 'phone
home' then the data they collect is useless to them. If you're letting
any program on your system 'phone home' at will, then you're going to
be screwed the first time some scumware infects you.

Even then, incoming traffic would be far less of an issue if Windows
didn't have so many remotely-accessible services enabled by default,
most of them used by some random part of Windows which prevents you
from disabling them even when there's no good reason to have them
running.

Personally I even have IE firewalled from the Internet: the only thing
I use it for is 'windows update', so I can allow that when I need to.

Mark
 
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