Microsoft admits Vista is a bloated abomination


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flambe

from
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205920302

"With Vista bearing a footprint 10 times larger than XP's, even Microsoft
officials are expressing concerns about Windows' growing waistline. Speaking
last year at the University of Illinois, Microsoft distinguished engineer
Eric Traut said the operating system had become bloated.

"A lot of people think of Windows as this large, bloated operating system.
That may be a fair characterization," said Traut.

In response to such concerns, Traut said Microsoft has adopted a new,
modular approach to OS development that will yield more streamlined products
beginning with Windows 7 -- a successor to Windows Vista that's expected to
be available some time in 2010.

The approach calls for Windows developers to use a bare bones version of the
OS -- dubbed MinWin -- as the building block for their next programming
effort. MinWin is built on about 25 MBs of data -- making it smaller than
Windows Vista by an order of magnitude.

Until it's ready, there's always programs like vLite."

What about an OS that fitsessential services into flash memory on the
motherboard? What about an OS that virtualizes services, like video and
sound and all running programs, so that crashes and BSODs go away?
 
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Paul Smith

In response to such concerns, Traut said Microsoft has adopted a new,
modular approach to OS development that will yield more streamlined
products beginning with Windows 7 -- a successor to Windows Vista that's
expected to be available some time in 2010.

That new modular approach started with Windows Vista.
The approach calls for Windows developers to use a bare bones version of
the OS -- dubbed MinWin -- as the building block for their next
programming effort. MinWin is built on about 25 MBs of data -- making it
smaller than Windows Vista by an order of magnitude.

Actually Windows Vista is the building block for the next operating system.
The MinWin stuff was alongside Windows Vista as Windows Vista was being
modularised.
What about an OS that fitsessential services into flash memory on the
motherboard?

Windows Embedded?
What about an OS that virtualizes services, like video and sound and all
running programs, so that crashes and BSODs go away?

It's called user mode, again already done in Windows Vista.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Joe cann

windows vista was based on server 2003

MinWin will be based on Server2008, and the whole concept of the OS will be
different from Vista...

M1 looks a lot like vista.. but its M1 still.. its gonna be a good leap
forwards..

In fact this is the OS everyone has been waiting for after XP.
 
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Frank

Joe said:
windows vista was based on server 2003

Wrong! Obviously you've never run Server '03...hahaha!
MinWin will be based on Server2008, and the whole concept of the OS will be
different from Vista...

Server '08 is based on Vista...you're stupid!
M1 looks a lot like vista.. but its M1 still.. its gonna be a good leap
forwards..

W7 will just be an upgrade to Vista...you're stupid!
In fact this is the OS everyone has been waiting for after XP.

Vista is the OS we've all been waiting for after XP...and the one that
we are all using.
You're not that bright are you?
Frank
 
K

Kerry Brown

Actually Server 2008 and Vista share much more code than Server 2003 and
Vista. With SP1 the Server 2008 and Vista kernel will essentially be the
same. You'll have to watch those videos again. They both say this.
 
F

Frank

Kerry said:
Actually Server 2008 and Vista share much more code than Server 2003 and
Vista. With SP1 the Server 2008 and Vista kernel will essentially be the
same. You'll have to watch those videos again. They both say this.

In addition to being downright stupid, capin' crunch is also
intellectually blind.
Frank
 
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K

kevpan_the_retard

Just FYI, Joe Cann Is Based Not On A Carbon Life Form, But On Dog Crap.

Just FYI
 
T

Terry R.

The date and time was 1/28/2008 4:01 PM, and on a whim, Frank pounded
out on the keyboard:
Wrong! Obviously you've never run Server '03...hahaha!

Server '08 is based on Vista...you're stupid!

W7 will just be an upgrade to Vista...you're stupid!


For many users and most businesses, it will be the upgrade from XP.

Vista is the OS we've all been waiting for after XP...and the one that
we are all using.
You're not that bright are you?
Frank

Vista is the OS most businesses have so far passed on. Just because you
use it doesn't mean "all" or "we", just you. And now with W7 on the
horizon, that pretty much seals it. We'll have to wait and see, won't we.



--
Terry R.

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T

thetruthhurts

from
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205920302

"With Vista bearing a footprint 10 times larger than XP's, even Microsoft
officials are expressing concerns about Windows' growing waistline. Speaking
last year at the University of Illinois, Microsoft distinguished engineer
Eric Traut said the operating system had become bloated.

"A lot of people think of Windows as this large, bloated operating system.
That may be a fair characterization," said Traut.

In response to such concerns, Traut said Microsoft has adopted a new,
modular approach to OS development that will yield more streamlined products
beginning with Windows 7 -- a successor to Windows Vista that's expected to
be available some time in 2010.

The approach calls for Windows developers to use a bare bones version of the
OS -- dubbed MinWin -- as the building block for their next programming
effort. MinWin is built on about 25 MBs of data -- making it smaller than
Windows Vista by an order of magnitude.

Until it's ready, there's always programs like vLite."

What about an OS that fitsessential services into flash memory on the
motherboard? What about an OS that virtualizes services, like video and
sound and all running programs, so that crashes and BSODs go away?


Now isn't that a huge revelation.....Vista bloatware, nahhhhhhhh
 
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NoStop

Kerry said:
Looks like Windows 7 may just be based on Vista after all.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1136&tag=nl.e539

Just goes to show that speculation is pointless at this point. Only a few
people at Microsoft know what the plans are for Windows 7 and they are not
talking.
They aren't talking because there's nothing to talk about. It's years away
from being available and they still have to decide how they're going to
accomplish trying to provide a secure operating system that isn't based on
the previous abominations they used in the past.

Cheers.

--
Frank's Brain Activity Plotted (watch the red line):
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i4/Astronomy2/PreformanceMonitor.jpg

Frank's Corporate Headquarters: Business Sign on his Bedroom Door ...
http://www.gneil.com/images/products/1slN1455.jpg

Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
http://www.binsa.org/
 
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Frank

NoStop said:
Kerry Brown wrote:



They aren't talking because there's nothing to talk about.

Really? And how do you know this, huh?

It's years away
from being available and they still have to decide how they're going to
accomplish trying to provide a secure operating system that isn't based on
the previous abominations they used in the past.

We all can clearly see that what little brain you ever had has been
completely fried up by using that POS toy os urbutttoo.
Craw back into that open sores sh*thole pit you keep trying to escape from.
It's where you belong!
Frank

yeah, cheers mf'er!
 

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