microsoft acknowledges problems with update

J

Jeff

Finally!

Ever since I downloaded the Windows XP critical update "Cumulative Security
Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1 (KB823353)", my IE6 has been unable to find
URLs and the whole system crashes intermittently. I was only able to reuse
the PC and IE6 to view websites after I restored the entire system partition
from a backup done before that update. I asked for advice from the Windows
XP, the IE6 newslist and although some other users wrote about similar
problems, I mainly got answers from the experts that the patch installed
fine and everything should be just fine and I should check for viruses,
etc.. Finally, when viewing the "Read more ...." for this update on the MS
update screen, I now see that MS acknowledges the problem and the version
you now find when you click on the Windows update is apparently a new one
dated August 1. (You only find this by reading the hidden details in the
"Read more" section).

Here is what MS writes:

"Caveats: Subsequent to the release of this security bulletin, Microsoft was
made aware that the update provided for Windows XP customers running the new
version of Windows Update, Windows Update Version 5, did not contain the
final release code for the vulnerabilities addressed in the security
bulletin. Microsoft has corrected the update and is re-releasing this
bulletin to advise of the availability of a revised update available to
Windows Update Version 5 customers. Customers who are utilizing Windows
Update Version 4, the vast majority of customers, are not affected by this
revision."

I have to admit I have yet to have the courage to install this revised
critical update <grin>. I'll make sure I have full partition backups before
I do it again. Using my Windows XP restore function was not successful in
removing the damage from that update.

--

Jeff McPherson
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
(e-mail address removed)
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG
 
J

Jose Francisco

Yep! Alot of people had problems with the previous update. Thank goodness MS
released a new one :)

Thanks!
 
J

Jeff

I'm using XP Home and when I look at the properties of "My Computer" it says
it is SP1. I was not aware that SP2 was out yet and I keep uptodate with
the critical updates, or at least I did till this last one!

--

Jeff McPherson
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
(e-mail address removed)
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG

Hi

Which version of XP are you using? SP1 or SP2?
 
W

Will Denny

Hi

I asked that because in your posting you 'quote' WU V4 & V5. V4 is usedfor SP1 & V5 is used for SP2. If you have read the relevant MS articles - I suggest that you will have to use your own intuition as to whetheryou use the update or not. I've had no problems with it on my SP1 PC.
 
J

Jeff

Actually, I do not even know which Windows update I have but know I have XP
SP1.

I also know that the update crippled my system and that Microsoft has
acknowledged "problems" with this upgrade and I can attest that it really
messed my system up and according to some newslist messages I read, I am not
the only one.

Maybe MS's "acknowledgement" forgot to mention all those who had problems
with it. After all one could consider it a good feature of the OS upgrade
system! It allowed me to test my image backup system and find out that it
truly works <grin>. Now that's a good thing. Must be what Bill had in
mind.

--

Jeff McPherson
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
(e-mail address removed)
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG

Hi

I asked that because in your posting you 'quote' WU V4 & V5. V4 is used for
SP1 & V5 is used for SP2. If you have read the relevant MS articles - I
suggest that you will have to use your own intuition as to whether you use
the update or not. I've had no problems with it on my SP1 PC.
 
P

PA Bear

The MS page to which you refer covers MS04-025 (AKA 867801), released 30
Jul-04, not MS04-018 (AKA 823353).

MS04-018 (823353) was released with several other updates on 13 Jul-04, any
of which may have caused you problems:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-jul.mspx

However, I suspect "hijackware" is the cause of your IE problems, Jeff.
Check your system for "hijackware":

Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/Darnit.htm

CoolWebSearch Chronicles
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html

Run these tools in the following order with nothing else running in
background:

1. CWShredder (fix all found)

2. Ad-Aware (fix all found)

3. Spybot (RTFM but generally fix everything in red)

Important: You *must* seek updates for Ad-Aware, Spybot, etc., before each
and every use, even "right out of the box". But even they can't catch
everything, 24/7. When all else fails, HijackThis
(http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe) is the preferred
tool to use. It will help you to both identify and remove any
hijackware/spyware. **Post your files to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not here.**

[Alternate download pages for many of the above tools may be found at
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm.]

Also:

1. Download and run Stinger (http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/); then...

2. Update your virus definitions, enable Show Hidden Files
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339)
and then run a full system scan in Safe Mode
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2001052409420406)
with nothing else running in background. Note the files identified and
removed then find the corresponding page for the file at your AV maker's
online support pages (e.g.,
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/adware.winfavorites.html)
and follow all Removal steps.

WinXP Only (WinME similar): If this scan finds anything, create a new
Restore Point then Disk Cleanup > More options > Delete all but the most
recent Restore Point.

3. Check in at Windows Update.

So How Did I Get Infected Anyway?
http://boards.cexx.org/viewtopic.php?t=957
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx
 
J

Jeff

I've used both Ad-aware and Spybot regularly for years, with regular
updates, including of course after the disaster. They found nothing. I
also have uptodate anti-virus software and the Zone Alarm firewall. All
regularly and conscientiously updated.

I am not familiar with CWShredder but will add it to my armamentarium,
though of course my system is now fixed.

You are correct though, it was right after the July 13 updates that my
problems started. Because the July 13 critical updates included a
"cumulative IE update", I assumed it was the same cumulative IE update.
Sorry for the confusion.

I will look into all the sites you suggested. I do have Hijack this, but do
not use it because it requires more knowledge than I have to not delete good
stuff too.

Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. However my problems started
immediately after the critical upgrades.

--

Jeff McPherson
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
(e-mail address removed)
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG

PA Bear said:
The MS page to which you refer covers MS04-025 (AKA 867801), released 30
Jul-04, not MS04-018 (AKA 823353).

MS04-018 (823353) was released with several other updates on 13 Jul-04, any
of which may have caused you problems:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-jul.mspx

However, I suspect "hijackware" is the cause of your IE problems, Jeff.
Check your system for "hijackware":

Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/Darnit.htm

CoolWebSearch Chronicles
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html

Run these tools in the following order with nothing else running in
background:

1. CWShredder (fix all found)

2. Ad-Aware (fix all found)

3. Spybot (RTFM but generally fix everything in red)

Important: You *must* seek updates for Ad-Aware, Spybot, etc., before each
and every use, even "right out of the box". But even they can't catch
everything, 24/7. When all else fails, HijackThis
(http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe) is the preferred
tool to use. It will help you to both identify and remove any
hijackware/spyware. **Post your files to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not here.**

[Alternate download pages for many of the above tools may be found at
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm.]

Also:

1. Download and run Stinger (http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/); then...

2. Update your virus definitions, enable Show Hidden Files
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339)
and then run a full system scan in Safe Mode
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2001052409420406)
with nothing else running in background. Note the files identified and
removed then find the corresponding page for the file at your AV maker's
online support pages (e.g.,
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/adware.winfavorites.html)
and follow all Removal steps.

WinXP Only (WinME similar): If this scan finds anything, create a new
Restore Point then Disk Cleanup > More options > Delete all but the most
recent Restore Point.

3. Check in at Windows Update.

So How Did I Get Infected Anyway?
http://boards.cexx.org/viewtopic.php?t=957
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx
Finally!

Ever since I downloaded the Windows XP critical update "Cumulative
Security Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1 (KB823353)", my IE6 has been
unable to find URLs and the whole system crashes intermittently. I was
only able to reuse the PC and IE6 to view websites after I restored the
entire system partition from a backup done before that update. I asked
for advice from the Windows XP, the IE6 newslist and although some other
users wrote about similar problems, I mainly got answers from the experts
that the patch installed fine and everything should be just fine and I
should check for viruses, etc.. Finally, when viewing the "Read more
...." for this update on the MS update screen, I now see that MS
acknowledges the problem and the version you now find when you click on
the Windows update is apparently a new one dated August 1. (You only find
this by reading the hidden details in the "Read more" section).

Here is what MS writes:

"Caveats: Subsequent to the release of this security bulletin, Microsoft
was made aware that the update provided for Windows XP customers running
the new version of Windows Update, Windows Update Version 5, did not
contain the final release code for the vulnerabilities addressed in the
security bulletin. Microsoft has corrected the update and is re-releasing
this bulletin to advise of the availability of a revised update available
to Windows Update Version 5 customers. Customers who are utilizing Windows
Update Version 4, the vast majority of customers, are not affected by this
revision."

I have to admit I have yet to have the courage to install this revised
critical update <grin>. I'll make sure I have full partition backups
before I do it again. Using my Windows XP restore function was not
successful in removing the damage from that update.
 
P

PA Bear

The critical updates may have addressed a pre-exisiting vulnerability on
your system, Jeff. IOW you didn't have any problems until the update(s)
blocked the malware from functioning.

Post your HT log to one of the recommended forums.
--
~PA Bear
I've used both Ad-aware and Spybot regularly for years, with regular
updates, including of course after the disaster. They found nothing. I
also have uptodate anti-virus software and the Zone Alarm firewall. All
regularly and conscientiously updated.

I am not familiar with CWShredder but will add it to my armamentarium,
though of course my system is now fixed.

You are correct though, it was right after the July 13 updates that my
problems started. Because the July 13 critical updates included a
"cumulative IE update", I assumed it was the same cumulative IE update.
Sorry for the confusion.

I will look into all the sites you suggested. I do have Hijack this, but
do not use it because it requires more knowledge than I have to not
delete good stuff too.

Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. However my problems started
immediately after the critical upgrades.


PA Bear said:
The MS page to which you refer covers MS04-025 (AKA 867801), released 30
Jul-04, not MS04-018 (AKA 823353).

MS04-018 (823353) was released with several other updates on 13 Jul-04,
any of which may have caused you problems:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-jul.mspx

However, I suspect "hijackware" is the cause of your IE problems, Jeff.
Check your system for "hijackware":

Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/Darnit.htm

CoolWebSearch Chronicles
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html

Run these tools in the following order with nothing else running in
background:

1. CWShredder (fix all found)

2. Ad-Aware (fix all found)

3. Spybot (RTFM but generally fix everything in red)

Important: You *must* seek updates for Ad-Aware, Spybot, etc., before
each and every use, even "right out of the box". But even they can't
catch everything, 24/7. When all else fails, HijackThis
(http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe) is the
preferred tool to use. It will help you to both identify and remove any
hijackware/spyware. **Post your files to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/
or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not
here.**

[Alternate download pages for many of the above tools may be found at
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm.]

Also:

1. Download and run Stinger (http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/); then...

2. Update your virus definitions, enable Show Hidden Files
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339)
and then run a full system scan in Safe Mode
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2001052409420406)
with nothing else running in background. Note the files identified and
removed then find the corresponding page for the file at your AV maker's
online support pages (e.g.,
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/adware.winfavorites.html)
and follow all Removal steps.

WinXP Only (WinME similar): If this scan finds anything, create a new
Restore Point then Disk Cleanup > More options > Delete all but the most
recent Restore Point.

3. Check in at Windows Update.

So How Did I Get Infected Anyway?
http://boards.cexx.org/viewtopic.php?t=957
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx
Finally!

Ever since I downloaded the Windows XP critical update "Cumulative
Security Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1 (KB823353)", my IE6 has been
unable to find URLs and the whole system crashes intermittently. I was
only able to reuse the PC and IE6 to view websites after I restored the
entire system partition from a backup done before that update. I asked
for advice from the Windows XP, the IE6 newslist and although some other
users wrote about similar problems, I mainly got answers from the
experts that the patch installed fine and everything should be just
fine and I should check for viruses, etc.. Finally, when viewing the
"Read more ...." for this update on the MS update screen, I now see
that MS acknowledges the problem and the version you now find when you
click on the Windows update is apparently a new one dated August 1.
(You only find this by reading the hidden details in the "Read more"
section).

Here is what MS writes:

"Caveats: Subsequent to the release of this security bulletin, Microsoft
was made aware that the update provided for Windows XP customers running
the new version of Windows Update, Windows Update Version 5, did not
contain the final release code for the vulnerabilities addressed in the
security bulletin. Microsoft has corrected the update and is
re-releasing this bulletin to advise of the availability of a revised
update available to Windows Update Version 5 customers. Customers who
are utilizing Windows Update Version 4, the vast majority of customers,
are not affected by this revision."

I have to admit I have yet to have the courage to install this revised
critical update <grin>. I'll make sure I have full partition backups
before I do it again. Using my Windows XP restore function was not
successful in removing the damage from that update.
 
J

Jeff

The critical updates may have addressed a pre-exisiting vulnerability on
your system, Jeff. IOW you didn't have any problems until the update(s)
blocked the malware from functioning.

Post your HT log to one of the recommended forums.

Interesting thought.......

I saved the log. Which forum would be best?

BTW, I know a fair amount about viruses and spyware. Is hijackware not just
another type of virus that should be picked up by an uptodate virus checker
or am I missing something?

Thanks again

--

Jeff McPherson
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
(e-mail address removed)
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG

PA Bear said:
The critical updates may have addressed a pre-existing vulnerability on
your system, Jeff. IOW you didn't have any problems until the update(s)
blocked the malware from functioning.

Post your HT log to one of the recommended forums.
--
~PA Bear
I've used both Ad-aware and Spybot regularly for years, with regular
updates, including of course after the disaster. They found nothing. I
also have uptodate anti-virus software and the Zone Alarm firewall. All
regularly and conscientiously updated.

I am not familiar with CWShredder but will add it to my armamentarium,
though of course my system is now fixed.

You are correct though, it was right after the July 13 updates that my
problems started. Because the July 13 critical updates included a
"cumulative IE update", I assumed it was the same cumulative IE update.
Sorry for the confusion.

I will look into all the sites you suggested. I do have Hijack this, but
do not use it because it requires more knowledge than I have to not
delete good stuff too.

Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. However my problems started
immediately after the critical upgrades.


PA Bear said:
The MS page to which you refer covers MS04-025 (AKA 867801), released 30
Jul-04, not MS04-018 (AKA 823353).

MS04-018 (823353) was released with several other updates on 13 Jul-04,
any of which may have caused you problems:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-jul.mspx

However, I suspect "hijackware" is the cause of your IE problems, Jeff.
Check your system for "hijackware":

Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/Darnit.htm

CoolWebSearch Chronicles
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html

Run these tools in the following order with nothing else running in
background:

1. CWShredder (fix all found)

2. Ad-Aware (fix all found)

3. Spybot (RTFM but generally fix everything in red)

Important: You *must* seek updates for Ad-Aware, Spybot, etc., before
each and every use, even "right out of the box". But even they can't
catch everything, 24/7. When all else fails, HijackThis
(http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe) is the
preferred tool to use. It will help you to both identify and remove any
hijackware/spyware. **Post your files to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/
or http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not
here.**

[Alternate download pages for many of the above tools may be found at
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm.]

Also:

1. Download and run Stinger (http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/); then...

2. Update your virus definitions, enable Show Hidden Files
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339)
and then run a full system scan in Safe Mode
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2001052409420406)
with nothing else running in background. Note the files identified and
removed then find the corresponding page for the file at your AV maker's
online support pages (e.g.,
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/adware.winfavorites.html)
and follow all Removal steps.

WinXP Only (WinME similar): If this scan finds anything, create a new
Restore Point then Disk Cleanup > More options > Delete all but the most
recent Restore Point.

3. Check in at Windows Update.

So How Did I Get Infected Anyway?
http://boards.cexx.org/viewtopic.php?t=957
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

Jeff wrote:
Finally!

Ever since I downloaded the Windows XP critical update "Cumulative
Security Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1 (KB823353)", my IE6 has been
unable to find URLs and the whole system crashes intermittently. I was
only able to reuse the PC and IE6 to view websites after I restored the
entire system partition from a backup done before that update. I asked
for advice from the Windows XP, the IE6 newslist and although some other
users wrote about similar problems, I mainly got answers from the
experts that the patch installed fine and everything should be just
fine and I should check for viruses, etc.. Finally, when viewing the
"Read more ...." for this update on the MS update screen, I now see
that MS acknowledges the problem and the version you now find when you
click on the Windows update is apparently a new one dated August 1.
(You only find this by reading the hidden details in the "Read more"
section).

Here is what MS writes:

"Caveats: Subsequent to the release of this security bulletin, Microsoft
was made aware that the update provided for Windows XP customers running
the new version of Windows Update, Windows Update Version 5, did not
contain the final release code for the vulnerabilities addressed in the
security bulletin. Microsoft has corrected the update and is
re-releasing this bulletin to advise of the availability of a revised
update available to Windows Update Version 5 customers. Customers who
are utilizing Windows Update Version 4, the vast majority of customers,
are not affected by this revision."

I have to admit I have yet to have the courage to install this revised
critical update <grin>. I'll make sure I have full partition backups
before I do it again. Using my Windows XP restore function was not
successful in removing the damage from that update.
 
P

PA Bear

*Some* AV apps can identify and at least help you remove *some* hijackers
but certainly not all. I highly recommend Panda's free online scan, found
here: http://aumha.org/secure.php#freeav. Run at least one other free scan
(e.g., Kerio).

Before posting your HT log anywhere...

- reconfigure Ad-aware for a full scan per
http://aumha.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5877, then enable 'Show Hidden Files'
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339)
and run Ad-aware and Spybot in Safe Mode
(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2001052409420406).

- update your virus definitions, manually if necessary, and then run a full
system AV scan in the same environment as above.

If the problem persists, also run HT per the above and save your log. I
recommend posting your log to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30. Be patient, hundreds post their
logs to these forums every day. Carefully detail all of the steps you've
already taken and post the results of pasting the following link into an IE
Addressbar and clicking on GO:

http://aumha.org/mydetail.htm

Example:

Browser Name: Microsoft Internet Explorer ver. 6.0

Browser & OS: (Major & Minor Version Information)
4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
;SP1;Q832894;Q330994;Q837009;Q831167;
--
~PA Bear
The critical updates may have addressed a pre-exisiting vulnerability on
your system, Jeff. IOW you didn't have any problems until the update(s)
blocked the malware from functioning.

Post your HT log to one of the recommended forums.

Interesting thought.......

I saved the log. Which forum would be best?

BTW, I know a fair amount about viruses and spyware. Is hijackware not
just another type of virus that should be picked up by an uptodate virus
checker or am I missing something?

Thanks again


PA Bear said:
The critical updates may have addressed a pre-existing vulnerability on
your system, Jeff. IOW you didn't have any problems until the update(s)
blocked the malware from functioning.

Post your HT log to one of the recommended forums.
--
~PA Bear
I've used both Ad-aware and Spybot regularly for years, with regular
updates, including of course after the disaster. They found nothing. I
also have uptodate anti-virus software and the Zone Alarm firewall. All
regularly and conscientiously updated.

I am not familiar with CWShredder but will add it to my armamentarium,
though of course my system is now fixed.

You are correct though, it was right after the July 13 updates that my
problems started. Because the July 13 critical updates included a
"cumulative IE update", I assumed it was the same cumulative IE update.
Sorry for the confusion.

I will look into all the sites you suggested. I do have Hijack this, but
do not use it because it requires more knowledge than I have to not
delete good stuff too.

Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. However my problems started
immediately after the critical upgrades.


The MS page to which you refer covers MS04-025 (AKA 867801), released
30 Jul-04, not MS04-018 (AKA 823353).

MS04-018 (823353) was released with several other updates on 13 Jul-04,
any of which may have caused you problems:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-jul.mspx

However, I suspect "hijackware" is the cause of your IE problems, Jeff.
Check your system for "hijackware":

Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/Darnit.htm

CoolWebSearch Chronicles
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html

Run these tools in the following order with nothing else running in
background:

1. CWShredder (fix all found)

2. Ad-Aware (fix all found)

3. Spybot (RTFM but generally fix everything in red)

Important: You *must* seek updates for Ad-Aware, Spybot, etc., before
each and every use, even "right out of the box". But even they can't
catch everything, 24/7. When all else fails, HijackThis
(http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe) is the
preferred tool to use. It will help you to both identify and remove
any hijackware/spyware. **Post your files to
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not
here.**

[Alternate download pages for many of the above tools may be found at
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm.]

Also:

1. Download and run Stinger (http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/); then...

2. Update your virus definitions, enable Show Hidden Files

(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2002092715262339)
and then run a full system scan in Safe Mode

(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2001052409420406)
with nothing else running in background. Note the files identified and
removed then find the corresponding page for the file at your AV
maker's online support pages (e.g.,

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/adware.winfavorites.html)
and follow all Removal steps.

WinXP Only (WinME similar): If this scan finds anything, create a new
Restore Point then Disk Cleanup > More options > Delete all but the
most recent Restore Point.

3. Check in at Windows Update.

So How Did I Get Infected Anyway?
http://boards.cexx.org/viewtopic.php?t=957
--
HTH - Please Reply to This Thread

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

What You Should Know About Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/privacy/spyware.mspx

Jeff wrote:
Finally!

Ever since I downloaded the Windows XP critical update "Cumulative
Security Update for Outlook Express 6 SP1 (KB823353)", my IE6 has been
unable to find URLs and the whole system crashes intermittently. I
was only able to reuse the PC and IE6 to view websites after I
restored the entire system partition from a backup done before that
update. I asked for advice from the Windows XP, the IE6 newslist and
although some other users wrote about similar problems, I mainly got
answers from the experts that the patch installed fine and everything
should be just fine and I should check for viruses, etc.. Finally,
when viewing the "Read more ...." for this update on the MS update
screen, I now see that MS acknowledges the problem and the version
you now find when you click on the Windows update is apparently a new
one dated August 1. (You only find this by reading the hidden details
in the "Read more" section).

Here is what MS writes:

"Caveats: Subsequent to the release of this security bulletin,
Microsoft was made aware that the update provided for Windows XP
customers running the new version of Windows Update, Windows Update
Version 5, did not contain the final release code for the
vulnerabilities addressed in the security bulletin. Microsoft has
corrected the update and is re-releasing this bulletin to advise of
the availability of a revised update available to Windows Update
Version 5 customers. Customers who are utilizing Windows Update
Version 4, the vast majority of customers, are not affected by this
revision."

I have to admit I have yet to have the courage to install this revised
critical update <grin>. I'll make sure I have full partition backups
before I do it again. Using my Windows XP restore function was not
successful in removing the damage from that update.
 

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