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* Reply by Jack D. Russell, Sr. <
[email protected]>
* Newsgroup:
microsoft.public.msn.messenger,microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger,micr
osoft.public.msn.discussion
* Reply to: All; "Patchou" <
[email protected]>
* Date: 3 Oct 2004 11:27:48 -0700
* Subj: Re: Messenger Plus! - Let's focus on another Sacred Cow for a
while
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P> Well Patrick, I'd like to live in your world. Do you honestly think
P> that I would bundle adware if people were willing to donate for the
P> software? you see, when I see things like "I've seen articles that
P> say where his 'sponsor' is optional, it still installs" it pains me
P> to realise how much false information can be distributed on the net,
P> and you're contributing to it by posting it again on this news post.
P>
P> If you actually read the last post I made in this thread, you would
P> probably not write such things. But hey, it's so easy to hit on
P> Patchou-the-bad-guy isn't it? you accuse forum members to be
P> children, yet, what I see here is childish complains disconnected
P> from reality. Anyone who actually bothers to read my replies can
P> easily realise that I'm just doing my best to satisfy my users, why
P> can't you see that?
P>
P> I'm not sure I would be so proud to have that kind of support Sandy,
P> it's just too easy to bad-mouth without trying to understand. Of
P> course, here we go again with the quote game, taking things out of
P> context, spreading rumors about stuff I would have said on one post
P> one day.. aren't you tired after all that time? don't you think
P> enough is enough? If you don't want to read my replies, fine, I won't
P> bother to reply again, but don't go and say that I don't care about
P> my users because I certainely care about them more than you care
P> about giving objective information to your readers.
P>
P> Patchou
P>
P> "Patrick Dickey--MSN Beta Tester" <pd1ckey43(removeThis)@msn.com>
P> wrote in message FL>> Hmmm.. interesting.. If it weren't for the 'sponsor' he'd be
FL>> living in the street. I remember seeing a post about Messenger
FL>> Plus on one of the anti-spyware sites where Patchou's response was
FL>> basically "Too bad."
FL>>
FL>> Here's a thought that I've seen on a lot of other sites.. PAYPAL.
FL>> Or StormPay. Your 6 million + members could donate 1 dollar, and
FL>> you'd never have to work again.. But, that's not an option, right?
FL>>
FL>> I liked Messenger Plus BEFORE it installed a bunch of spyware crap
FL>> on my computer (This was before Patchou stated it in his EULA). I
FL>> haven't used it since, and I don't recommend it to anyone. Simply
FL>> because I've seen articles that say where his 'sponsor' is
FL>> optional, it still installs.
FL>>
FL>> Plus, I agree with Sandi about the "Pass-through toolbar". If I
FL>> want to change my homepage, search page, and other pages back to
FL>> what I wanted, then C2Media, MPlus, or whoever is the 'sponsor' has
FL>> NO right adding another toolbar to my computer (for monitoring my
FL>> habits). Patrick.
Hear, hear. But really now...when you lay down with dogs...
While I can appreciate you're need for sponsorship in your wholly worthy
endeavor to provide your users with a quality program, you didn't really
think that truly informed computer users would let the lop.com thing get
past without raising holy he**, did you? Can't you find a sponsor with a
little better reputation among the "well informed" users? It's a shame
that you have to put up with a company that has such a shoddy record
where privacy rights are concerned. JMHO.