Memory Defragmenter?

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I wouldn't bother with one, it's a performance quest that really only
provides a "Placebo" or STP Oil Treatment type affect. Better to
have adequate physical RAM, a defragmented hard drive and latest
drivers. Windows XP internally handles memory management and it's
not something you can easily augment.
 
ColTom2,

A memory defragger is really "snake oil " at it's best.

Let's say for arguments sake that you *were* to defrag memory.

On the next memory call, especially if said memory is larger than the
previously "defragged" one, you may very again be required to perform
another "Memory defrag", id adfinitum. Memory defrag serves no purpose in
the real world, and one would be very hard pressed to see a significant
improvement.

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HTH,
Curt

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| Hi:
|
| Anyone know of a good Memory Defragmenter freeware?
|
| Thanks,
|
| ColTom2
|
|
 
Thanks for your replies. I had never heard of it until last night when a
friend mentioned it. Now I know....

ColTom2
 
Curt said:
ColTom2,

A memory defragger is really "snake oil " at it's best.

Let's say for arguments sake that you *were* to defrag memory.

On the next memory call, especially if said memory is larger than the
previously "defragged" one, you may very again be required to perform
another "Memory defrag", id adfinitum. Memory defrag serves no purpose in
the real world, and one would be very hard pressed to see a significant
improvement.
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Perfectly put.

Tony
 
ColTom2 said:
Anyone know of a good Memory Defragmenter freeware?
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Thanks for your replies. I had never heard of it until last night
when a friend mentioned it. Now I know....
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Not a friend.
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I am unsure what you think you are saying there. I suppose your friends
have never given you advice that turned out to be 'not so good' - even
though when they gave the advice - it seemed to -both- of you to be decent?

Also - if you comprehend what was said - it was not *recommended* by said
friend - it was "mentioned". We could assume a positive context/spin was
put on it - but that would be purely assumption on our part. It could have
been mentioned in passing as something they were looking into, used in the
past, thought was the greatest thing in the world, had no opinion on or
thought was a bunch of worthless crud. We do not know - nor does it matter.

Your assumption that ColTom2's friend is not a 'friend' because they
"mentioned" something in a conversation and ColTom2 decided to look into it
more deeply seems to be quite the jump to a conclusion that is difficult to
follow/swallow.

Having said that - it is good that ColTom2 did ask about it and got some
decent advice on it. Now perhaps ColTom2 can go back to said friend and let
them know as well. If both ColTom2 and said friend want some real advice on
proper upkeep, performance tweaking, etc - they can come back to newsgroups
such as these and ask/explain the particulars of what they have and what
they want and get said advice.
 
Curt Christianson said:
ColTom2,

A memory defragger is really "snake oil " at it's best.

Let's say for arguments sake that you *were* to defrag memory.

On the next memory call, especially if said memory is larger than the
previously "defragged" one, you may very again be required to perform
another "Memory defrag", id adfinitum. Memory defrag serves no purpose in
the real world, and one would be very hard pressed to see a significant
improvement.
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Didn't it used to be in the old days (about 10 years ago) that if you had
two hard drives, you could move your swap file from one to the other, defrag
the first HDD, then move your swap file back? Or maybe my menory's playing
me up...it was a long time ago in computer terms.

someone
 
all the replies
are hilarious.

sounds like those
times when people
asked about registry
cleaners....

the unfortunate aspect
about their opinions is
that windows operating
system validates the results.

since they don't know where
or how to measure the algorithms,
they will disprove anything
not understood...



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db ·´¯`·.¸. said:
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Please inform us.
db ´¯`·.. > said:
all the replies
are hilarious.

sounds like those
times when people
asked about registry
cleaners....

the unfortunate aspect
about their opinions is
that windows operating
system validates the results.

since they don't know where
or how to measure the algorithms,
they will disprove anything
not understood...



--




.
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10 years ago, memory
management was via
Microsofts Emm386 &
QEMM.

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db ·´¯`·.¸. said:
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db ´¯`·.. > said:
10 years ago, memory
management was via
Microsofts Emm386 &
QEMM.
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True - but I have a few thoughts from experience there.

10-12 years ago, I was new to computers. I got into computers just
about exactly when Win95 came out. I learned Win 95 from the ground
floor. I never personally used Win 3.1

QEMM 7.5 - the last version for Win 3.1 - I was told by many people was
a wonderful tool for memory management in Win 3.1. I mean, a legion of
folks swore by it. I can only take them at their word. Because of
their enthusiasm, I bought QEMM 8.0 for Windows 95. I should have waited
six months. Within 6 months I read several articles - and the
newsgroups were full of posts - all talking about how QEMM 8.0 for Win95
was an absolute turkey - a total pig in a poke. Unfortunately, by then I
already had found that out from experience. It remains to this day the
biggest waste of money I ever spent on a computer program. If I
remember correctly (I could be wrong here) Quarterdeck never even
offered patches or updates for the program - THEY wrote it off as a
hopeless case.

With the way that WinXP and (as I am told) Vista uses memory, a "memory
manager" or "Memory defragger" program is a waste of money - I've never
seen one of the MVP's recommend one - quite the contrary.

Tony
 
ColTom2

With all due respect, and I believe if it was a different thread "XP gen.
disc." memory defragmenters are very simply "snake oil" Say for example you
do an effective job of defragging: memory, that 's not the same than the
next memory call would defragment, it all over again. and around and around
you go, ad infinitum.

Sorry to be such a naysayer.

--
HTH,
Curt

Windows Support Center
www.aumha.org
Practically Nerded,...
http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm

| Thanks for your replies. I had never heard of it until last night when a
| friend mentioned it. Now I know....
|
| ColTom2
|
|
| | > Hi:
| >
| > Anyone know of a good Memory Defragmenter freeware?
| >
| > Thanks,
| >
| > ColTom2
| >
|
|
 
Well put......thanks.

ColTom2


Shenan Stanley said:
I am unsure what you think you are saying there. I suppose your friends
have never given you advice that turned out to be 'not so good' - even
though when they gave the advice - it seemed to -both- of you to be
decent?

Also - if you comprehend what was said - it was not *recommended* by said
friend - it was "mentioned". We could assume a positive context/spin was
put on it - but that would be purely assumption on our part. It could
have been mentioned in passing as something they were looking into, used
in the past, thought was the greatest thing in the world, had no opinion
on or thought was a bunch of worthless crud. We do not know - nor does it
matter.

Your assumption that ColTom2's friend is not a 'friend' because they
"mentioned" something in a conversation and ColTom2 decided to look into
it more deeply seems to be quite the jump to a conclusion that is
difficult to follow/swallow.

Having said that - it is good that ColTom2 did ask about it and got some
decent advice on it. Now perhaps ColTom2 can go back to said friend and
let them know as well. If both ColTom2 and said friend want some real
advice on proper upkeep, performance tweaking, etc - they can come back to
newsgroups such as these and ask/explain the particulars of what they have
and what they want and get said advice.
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Unknown said:
Please inform us.
" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ."
<databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
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<snip - drivel from a troller>

Look at his moniker. He is announcing up front that he is a troll.
The symbols are of a fish on a line. He's trolling. That's what
gives him his jollies. If he had a dick longer than a wart, he'd be
publishing his masturbation online at some porn site.
 
Hi,

I recently downloaded a defragging program for my roommate. He has Vista,
but the program works on XP as well. It is AusLogics Disk Defrag. He likes
it. Has more info that is accessable than the default one in Vista. I
personally just use the one built into XP.
 
Rockfang said:
Hi,

I recently downloaded a defragging program for my roommate. He has
Vista,
but the program works on XP as well. It is AusLogics Disk Defrag.
He likes
it. Has more info that is accessable than the default one in Vista.
I
personally just use the one built into XP.
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Per the Subject header, the OP was looking for a memory defragmenter
(which is worthless), not a disk defragmenter.
 
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