Maxtor One Touch hdd went bad

[hapyfishrmn]

I have a 250g Maxtor One Touch that keeps losing data. I don't know
what the cause might be, but I wanted to know could I buy a 500g of any
drive manufacturer and remove the 250g in the external and replace it.
I read on newegg.com with a Seagate drive a guy experienced problems
with that. I looked around on the web and didn't see anyone doing that
or having problems.
Thanks for any feedback.


-hap

 

[Rod Speed]

I have a 250g Maxtor One Touch that keeps losing data. I don't know
what the cause might be, but I wanted to know could I buy a 500g of any
drive manufacturer and remove the 250g in the external and replace it.

Likely not a terrific idea, those cases dont cool the drive very well
and the replacement is likely to use more power than the original.
Seagate drive are a bit on the warm side anyway and an external
case without adequate cooling is only going to make that worse.

I read on newegg.com with a Seagate drive
a guy experienced problems with that.

I'm not surprised.

 

[hapyfishrmn]

Likely not a terrific idea, those cases dont cool the drive very well
and the replacement is likely to use more power than the original.
Seagate drive are a bit on the warm side anyway and an external
case without adequate cooling is only going to make that worse.


I'm not surprised.

Thanks for the feedback so, what would you say I am to do with the one
touch that I have would you consider putting anything in it, maybe a
less important drive with less space. Or a maxtor that has the same
resources needed?

And what is the best way to have big storage thats portable. Pre-built
enclosures or ennclosures separate and used a regular internal drive.
Or is there another solution??

 

[Timothy Daniels]

I have a 250g Maxtor One Touch that keeps losing data.
I don't know what the cause might be, but I wanted to
know could I buy a 500g of any drive manufacturer and
remove the 250g in the external and replace it.

The problem could be inadequate power or inadequate
cooling for the external HD. Kingwin makes products that
supply an external HD with both cooling and power and
link it to the PC via USB 2.0:
PATA: http://www.kingwin.com/pdut_Cat.asp?CateID=27
SATA: http://www.kingwin.com/pdut_Cat.asp?CateID=52

If your PC has an external SATA port (or if you can
lead a SATA cable out from the PC's case), Kingwin has
an external enclosure with a SATA link:
http://www.kingwin.com/pdut_detail.asp?LineID=&CateID=52&ID=246

If you have an available 5 1/2" bay, Kingwin makes both
PATA and SATA "mobile racks":
PATA: http://www.kingwin.com/pdut_Cat.asp?CateID=25
SATA: http://www.kingwin.com/pdut_Cat.asp?CateID=47

Prices vary considerably on the Web, so shop around by
plugging a model number into Nextag.com, PriceWatch.com,
PriceGrabber.com, etc.

You can take the hard drive out of your Maxtor One-Touch
and slip it into one of these devices, and away you'd go!

*TimDaniels*

 

[Rod Speed]

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Rod Speed wrote

Thanks for the feedback so, what would you say I am
to do with the one touch that I have would you consider
putting anything in it, maybe a less important drive with less
space. Or a maxtor that has the same resources needed?

I'd throw it away myself, its badly designed.

And what is the best way to have big storage
thats portable. Pre-built enclosures or ennclosures
separate and used a regular internal drive.

An enclosure that is properly designed
so the drive is cooled properly.

Or is there another solution??

Depends on what you need portability wise. Mostly there isnt.

 

[Odie Ferrous]

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I'd throw it away myself, its badly designed.

Rod, it's not just badly designed. It's not designed at all.

It's one of the *worst* external enclosures I have come across.

However, LaCie, with their 2-drive RAID 0 external unit is probably as
bad.

Space for a fan, but no fan.

Not that a 40mm fan could cool two drives, anyway.


Odie

 

[Timothy Daniels]

Athena also makes external enclosures for SATA hard
drives - both USB/SATA and SATA/SATA models:
http://www.athenapower.com/

*TimDaniels*

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

Rod, it's not just badly designed. It's not designed at all.

It's one of the *worst* external enclosures I have come across.

However, LaCie, with their 2-drive RAID 0 external unit is probably as
bad.

Space for a fan, but no fan.

Not that a 40mm fan could cool two drives, anyway.

Of course it can. That's a bloody huge fan for such a small enclosure.
It all depends on whether all the air transported by the fan is actually
guided along all surfaces of the drive(s) and creating enough airspeed to effectively transfer the heat generated and that no
airflow is wasted
But yes, that means it has to be aerodynamically designed internally so
no air can go through it that has not been in contact with the drives.

 

[Rod Speed]

Of course it can. That's a bloody huge fan for such a small enclosure.

It isnt the size of the enclosure that matters, what matters is the
amount of air that needs to be moved to cool the drives adequately.

It all depends on whether all the air transported by the
fan is actually guided along all surfaces of the drive(s)

That isnt necessary either.

and creating enough airspeed to effectively transfer the heat generated

It isnt the airspeed that matters, its the volume.

and that no airflow is wasted

That isnt necessary either.

But yes, that means it has to be aerodynamically designed internally
so no air can go through it that has not been in contact with the drives.

Wrong again.

 

[Rod Speed]

Athena also makes external enclosures for SATA hard
drives - both USB/SATA and SATA/SATA models:
http://www.athenapower.com/

What matters is how well they work, particularly on temperature.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

It isnt the airspeed that matters, its the volume.

It's the volume per unit time, and it's the
volume per unit time that contacts the surface
of the drive - which is helped by turbulence.
And one promoter of turbulence is airspeed.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Timothy Daniels]

Timothy Daniels wrote


What matters is how well they work, particularly on temperature.

Correct. "Anna", an IT consultant who posts in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general from time to time,
has been doing tests with *plastic* mobile racks made
by this firm which have an 80mm fan built into the bottom
of the tray which holds the HD. (Athena calls it "turbo
cooling".) "Anna" says that temperatures have been
kept low by this fan - which, by the way, is the same fan
arrangement in the Kingwin parallel ATA mobile rack
that I use
(http://kingwin.com/pdut_detail.asp?LineID=&CateID=25&ID=136),
and I find that the hard drive shell is always below body
temperature. So, for the Athena models of mobile rack
and external HD enclosure that use their "turbo cooling",
temperatures are not a problem.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

It's the volume per unit time,

Duh. That was too obvious to need to bother with in the context.

and it's the volume per unit time that contacts the surface of the
drive - which is helped by turbulence.

And one promoter of turbulence is airspeed.

Mindless pig ignorant silly stuff with 40mm fans.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Correct. "Anna", an IT consultant who posts in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general from time to time,
has been doing tests with *plastic* mobile racks made
by this firm which have an 80mm fan built into the bottom
of the tray which holds the HD. (Athena calls it "turbo
cooling".) "Anna" says that temperatures have been
kept low by this fan - which, by the way, is the same fan
arrangement in the Kingwin parallel ATA mobile rack
that I use
(http://kingwin.com/pdut_detail.asp?LineID=&CateID=25&ID=136),
and I find that the hard drive shell is always below body
temperature. So, for the Athena models of mobile rack
and external HD enclosure that use their "turbo cooling",
temperatures are not a problem.

You dont know that with those external enclosures.

 

[Monroe]

You've had alot of responses, mostly negative, but I did just that
about two years ago on one of their earlier models (5000DV) and it's
been working just fine.