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here as well:

I have discovered a math error in the .NET framework's Log function. It

returns incorrect results for varying powers of 2 that depend on whether the

program is run from within the IDE or from the command line. The amount by

which the calculation is off is very small; even though the double data type

holds the errant value, it seems to round off when printed (via ToString())

and shows the correct one. The problem is that the errant value is still used

in further calculations, which can throw off some functions.

Specific example:

The function System.Math.Log(8,2) yields a value of 3 - 4x10^-16

(2.9999999999999996) instead of 3 when run from a command line (this will not

occur if run inside the IDE). You can store the result of this computation in

a double precision variable, but if you print the variable's value to the

console by calling its ToString() method, the output will be 3. You can

verify, however, that the value is indeed off by printing the result of some

calculations using it. To see this, use Visual Studio to create a new C#

console application and paste the following code sample in its "Main" method:

---- Begin Code Sample ---

// try log function using the overloaded method that specifies the base

Console.WriteLine("Using System.Math.Log overload to specify desired

base...");

double log = System.Math.Log(8,2); // compute the log of 8 to the

base of 2 (should be 3, but will be 3 - 4x10^-16 when run from a command

prompt â€“ note will print out as 3 regardless)

double floor = System.Math.Floor(log); // get the floor of the result

(should be 3, but will be 2 when run from a command prompt)

Console.WriteLine("Log2 8 = " + log.ToString()); // print the log of 8 to

the base of 2

Console.WriteLine("Floor(Log2 8) = " + floor.ToString()); // print the

floor of the result

Console.WriteLine("Log2 8 == 3? : " + ((bool) (log == 3)).ToString()); //

print whether the log of 8 to the base of 2 is equal to 3 (should be true,

but will be false when run from a command prompt)

Console.WriteLine();

// try the log function while doing things the "manual" way

Console.WriteLine("Using Log x / Log y method of computing the same

logarithm...");

log = System.Math.Log(8) / System.Math.Log(2); // compute the log of 8 to

the base of 2 (will be 3)

floor = System.Math.Floor(log); // get the floor of the result (will

be 3)

Console.WriteLine("Log2 8 = " + log.ToString()); // print the log of 8 to

the base of 2 computed via Log x / Log y

Console.WriteLine("Floor(Log2 8) = " + floor.ToString()); // print the

floor of the result

Console.WriteLine("Log2 8 == 3? : " + ((bool) (log == 3)).ToString()); //

print whether the log of 8 to the base of 2 is equal to 3 (will be true)

Console.Read();

--- End Code Sample ---

Note that if you calculate via log x / log y then the calculation is

correct. Using ILDASM to examine mscorlib.dll reveals that this is what is

actually happening internally. That is, the overloaded method

System.Math.Log(double a,double newBase) actually calls

System.Math.Log(double d) and divides the result by another call to

System.Math.Log(double d). That there is a difference between the results

returned by the framework when it does this internally as opposed to when you

do it is certainly interesting.

You can see the actual value of the log function by putting a statement

such as "Console.Read()" as your first line so you have a way to get the

program to stop. Compile the program and run it from the command line. Open a

new instance of Visual Studio and click on Tools > Debug Processes and select

the application. Once you have attached the debugger, break the application

and start stepping through the code. Add the variable "log" to your watch

window and you will see its value is 3 - 4x10^-16, not 3 when computed using

System.Math.Log(8,2). These steps must be taken, as the problem will not

occur if you initially start the program within the IDE.

Additionally, the problem can be verified with one line of code. Create a

new C# console application and run the following code:

Console.WriteLine(System.Math.Log(8,2) == 3);

which will print â€œtrueâ€ when run from within the IDE and â€œfalseâ€ when run

from the command line.

The interesting thing here is that the issue occurs on some powers of 2 if

the program is run from the command line and different powers of two if run

from within the IDE. I have verified this by computing the first 64

logarithms of 2 from both IDE and command line. You can do so by running the

following code:

for(int pow = 1;pow <= 64;pow++)

{

if(System.Math.Log(System.Math.Pow(2,pow),2) != pow)

Console.WriteLine(pow.ToString());

}

Additionally, you can compute the same logarithms in VB.NET and the answers

will still be off. This rules out the problem being isolated to a single

language and shows the issue is within the framework itself. As an

interesting side check, I computed these logarithms from VB 6.0 and all

passed the test, so the problem is isolated to .NET.

Lastly, computation using log x / log y is also off, but for different

powers of 2 than what log(power,newBase) is and it is more consistent; it

computes the incorrect value for the same powers when run from either the

command line or the IDE.

I contacted Microsoft support regarding this and they verified that they

have reproduced the problem. The last correspondence with them said, â€œ[I am]

creating a problem report to send to the dev team nowâ€.

The most concerning thing about all of this is that programs, at least in

this instance, behave differently when run from the command line than they do

when run inside the IDE. I find the fact that the value of calculations is

different depending on how you start your application to be alarming.