Lost App

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After serious thinking Robert Macy wrote :








Yes, there are many apps that will do similar but with multi-step
operations.  The one I had did it with one click.  Then click again to
get more etc.

I have googled many times an found nothing.
I have even started up old PCs to see what I had there.
I have one more old PC to look at.

Unfortunately I can not remember any thing more about the app.
This was from about six or seven or more years ago that I used it.
Probably on Windows 2000.
I have had may PC crashes and rebuilds over the decades (yes, decades.
Altair or IMSAI ring any bells?) so maybe it is gone forever.  Tragic.

If I knew the logic for darken background I could write software to do
it but I am not sure how that effect differentiates foreground from
background.

Maybe:
   stuff around the edges is background 'cause you usually point at and
center the foreground.
   sample stuff around the background and see what range is there.
   anything below that range of color/saturation/brightness level you
further darken.

Does that seem right?

I may just try your suggestion with GIMP (then Irfanview) and see what
happens.

In one app I have there is a slider for shadow areas that will darken.
Maybe that is what the one-click app sort of did.

I have Corel, Nero, GIMP, Elements and MS to play with.
Problem is,I have a lot of photos to "correct" so that one-click app
was wonderful.

Years ago, before IrfanView, I used to use some type of 'Kodak" viewer
that had a lot of ability, but when jpg's improved, the viewer was
abandoned by the source people [I think] so there was never an update
viewer availalbe. and hence I only use IrfanView now.

If you truly have a lot of images, I'd be tempted to write a simple
octave, or python, program to manipulate the image automatically.copy
from photo to temp directory and look to see how well it worked. Might
be faster.
 
Charlie+ said:
PainShopPro 7 has rotate which can be set at say -0.01 degrees then
its
one click to press the repeat shortcut key as many times as you like,
perhaps not one click throughout but gets close!

PainShop? Is that a typo or a Freudian Slip? lol
That fraction of a degree rotate sounds similar to what I describe....
not a simple one-click button but the same effect. I'm not going to pay
for PaintShopPro just for the one feature, though, when I have free apps
that have pretty much all the other features I need already. I have a
very old free version of ArcSoft PhotoStudio 2.x on one machine, that
has a similar rotate feature that allows rotating in whole degrees, but
not fractions of a degree.... and a whole degree is often too much.
Irfan Viewer doesn't have an incremental rotate that I can see. I
haven't fired up the computer with XnView to see what it offers.

I looked at the apps I have, including the free PhotoScape, and none of
them have the Darken Background feature or any feature that accomplishes
that simply, nor do they have the tiny-increment rotate I like.
 
BeeJ schreef:
After serious thinking Robert Macy wrote :

Yes, there are many apps that will do similar but with multi-step
operations. The one I had did it with one click. Then click again to
get more etc.

I have googled many times an found nothing.
I have even started up old PCs to see what I had there.
I have one more old PC to look at.

Unfortunately I can not remember any thing more about the app.
This was from about six or seven or more years ago that I used it.
Probably on Windows 2000.
I have had may PC crashes and rebuilds over the decades (yes, decades.
Altair or IMSAI ring any bells?) so maybe it is gone forever. Tragic.

If I knew the logic for darken background I could write software to do
it but I am not sure how that effect differentiates foreground from
background.

Maybe:
stuff around the edges is background 'cause you usually point at and
center the foreground.
sample stuff around the background and see what range is there.
anything below that range of color/saturation/brightness level you
further darken.

Does that seem right?

I may just try your suggestion with GIMP (then Irfanview) and see what
happens.

In one app I have there is a slider for shadow areas that will darken.
Maybe that is what the one-click app sort of did.

I have Corel, Nero, GIMP, Elements and MS to play with.
Problem is,I have a lot of photos to "correct" so that one-click app was
wonderful.

What you probably want is called 'Fill Flash' and 'Backlighting'
Paint Shop Pro 9 has those two filters.

This is from the PSP9 help file

Fill Flash filter
Backlighting filter

*Using the Fill Flash Filter*
One of the more common problems in photography involves lighting. Photos
taken in bright light often have little detail in the shadow areas since
the camera is attempting to not overexpose the brighter areas. The Fill
Flash filter allows you to lighten the darker, underexposed areas of a
photo. If your photo's background is too dark, or you feel there's too
much difference between the photo's light and dark areas, this filter is
a good choice to help correct that problem.

Accessing and Using the Filter
Choose Adjust > Photo Fix > Fill Flash.

Use the Strength value to determine how much the darker areas will be
lightened.

Using Fill Flash in Combination with Backlighting

You may run into a situation where a photo has just enough of a problem
with too-dark areas as well as too-light areas. In that case, try
running the Fill Flash filter on the photo, and then the
*Backlighting filter*

Zanqeutil
 
Zanqeutil said:
BeeJ schreef:

What you probably want is called 'Fill Flash' and 'Backlighting'
Paint Shop Pro 9 has those two filters.

This is from the PSP9 help file

Fill Flash filter
Backlighting filter

*Using the Fill Flash Filter*
One of the more common problems in photography involves lighting.
Photos taken in bright light often have little detail in the shadow
areas since the camera is attempting to not overexpose the brighter
areas. The Fill Flash filter allows you to lighten the darker,
underexposed areas of a photo. If your photo's background is too dark,
or you feel there's too much difference between the photo's light and
dark areas, this filter is a good choice to help correct that problem.

Accessing and Using the Filter
Choose Adjust > Photo Fix > Fill Flash.

Use the Strength value to determine how much the darker areas will be
lightened.

Using Fill Flash in Combination with Backlighting

You may run into a situation where a photo has just enough of a
problem with too-dark areas as well as too-light areas. In that case,
try running the Fill Flash filter on the photo, and then the
*Backlighting filter*

I don't have PSP, but that sounds like it will do the opposite of what
he wants. It lightens the background. I have an editor with the
Backlighting option and it too does something quite different than what
BeeJ is looking for.
 
glee schreef:
I don't have PSP, but that sounds like it will do the opposite of what
he wants. It lightens the background. I have an editor with the
Backlighting option and it too does something quite different than what
BeeJ is looking for.

Yes you are right about what the PSP backlighting filter does.

Beej wants to darken the background of an image.

Well the PSP fill flash filter makes the foreground (people,
faces)lighter, it does not exactly darken the background. But the
background seems darker after using this filter. You can play with it in
multiple steps.

For badly exposed images I usually use the Histogram filter.

Zanqeutil
 
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