logon issue with clone

[Guest]

I cloned a disk as a backup bootable with Norton Ghost 9 and it loads to the
Welcome screen but is bare beyond the Windows logo;
-no user accounts
-no "loading" message
-ctrl+alt+del disabled
-no power off button

I could spent 3 or 4 days trying to get a response from symantec but in the
end what do they care? Stupid support-bots. I've never cloned a HDD before
and I don't to know if this is a WPA 'too many hardware changes' issue, a
MBR fault, or because I used "computer management" console to adhere the
letter and name "M:<Maxtor>" to the cloned disk BEFORE I copied to it.

I also had trouble trying o install XP home OEM on drive "M".It would get to
the point of restarting then reload from the CD from the beginning instead of
going through setup. I tried piling through some recent "no user logon
problems" but I don't have the time to sort them all out (they are mostly
viral related or corrupted registries). Any help woul be welcome....thanks.

 

[Guest]

Did you tried to format this Partition ?

 

[Guest]

Brandon, do you ever get any anwers on this site? I'm new.

Louis

 

[Malke]

I cloned a disk as a backup bootable with Norton Ghost 9 and it loads
to the Welcome screen but is bare beyond the Windows logo;
-no user accounts
-no "loading" message
-ctrl+alt+del disabled
-no power off button

I could spent 3 or 4 days trying to get a response from symantec but
in the end what do they care? Stupid support-bots. I've never cloned a
HDD before
and I don't to know if this is a WPA 'too many hardware changes'
issue, a MBR fault, or because I used "computer management" console
to adhere the letter and name "M:<Maxtor>" to the cloned disk BEFORE I
copied to it.

I also had trouble trying o install XP home OEM on drive "M".It would
get to the point of restarting then reload from the CD from the
beginning instead of going through setup. I tried piling through some
recent "no user logon problems" but I don't have the time to sort them
all out (they are mostly viral related or corrupted registries). Any
help woul be welcome....thanks.

I would say the drive letter change caused your issue and/or you have
other hardware-related problems (based on your last paragraph). Failure
to install an operating system is usually caused by failing hardware
with RAM being the first suspect and the hard drive being the second.
BTW, your problems have nothing to do with WPA.

Since I'm not a cloning expert, I'll let others tell you how to get out
of this. IIRC, there was a thread in this group not too long ago with a
detailed discussion of cloning and drive letter changes. Do a Google
Groups Advanced Search in the microsoft.public.* groups for "clone +
drive letter changes" and see what comes up.

For general hardware troubleshooting, see:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Hardware_Troubleshooting

Malke

 

[Malke]

Brandon, do you ever get any anwers on this site? I'm new.

Louis

I'm not Brandon, but yes posters do get answers here in most cases. Of
course, since this is a public newsgroup hosted on Microsoft servers
and *not* Microsoft tech support, all the help provided is voluntary by
people who (in most cases) don't work for Microsoft. That means that a
poster is not *guaranteed* an answer.

Also, this isn't a "site". Here is an explanation of that with links to
help you get the most out of this resource:

Since you are using the web interface, you may not realize that this is
really a newsgroup. You will get far more out of this resource if you
learn to use a newsreader. There are many good newsreaders for Windows,
but you can use Outlook Express since you already have it. Here are
some links to information about newsgroups:

About Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=basics.html - Basics
of Usenet
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page3.html#12-09-02 - a brief
explanation of newsgroups

Using Outlook Express as Newsreader:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm
http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm

How to Post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is
working properly
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm - how to munge email address
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm - multiposting vs.
crossposting

Malke

 

[Guest]

thanks malke, Ill check it out when I get some time. I seen some posts on it
in this newsgroup, on required me to "load" the system hive from the other
HDD(F:\windows\system32\config) to manually change the HDD letter.
I have two new questions:

1."loading" the hive is not "merging" (apparently, Ive never done this so
far) so when Im done editing HKLM or whatever I unload the hive and this DOES
NOT affect my C:\ system?
2.Can the boot drive be anything other than C:\ ? (I formatted the drive and
monikkered it M:\ <MAX> then cloned to it from a C:\ drive whereafter showed
"F:/".)

No diagnostic test showed any hardware faults but I may have missed
something on the way. I'll try to reformat it and do a CD install. The
problem with this before might of been due to improper jumper settings( the
hardware jumper itself is flakey) or the wrong drive letter.
Thanks.

 

[Malke]

thanks malke, Ill check it out when I get some time. I seen some posts
on it in this newsgroup, on required me to "load" the system hive from
the other HDD(F:\windows\system32\config) to manually change the HDD
letter. I have two new questions:

1."loading" the hive is not "merging" (apparently, Ive never done this
so far) so when Im done editing HKLM or whatever I unload the hive and
this DOES NOT affect my C:\ system?
2.Can the boot drive be anything other than C:\ ? (I formatted the
drive and monikkered it M:\ <MAX> then cloned to it from a C:\ drive
whereafter showed "F:/".)

No diagnostic test showed any hardware faults but I may have missed
something on the way. I'll try to reformat it and do a CD install. The
problem with this before might of been due to improper jumper
settings( the hardware jumper itself is flakey) or the wrong drive
letter. Thanks.

I'm really not sure how to answer your first question. I suppose it
depends on what you have on the C: drive. Windows XP can be installed
on any letter drive, but its boot files will go on Drive 0 which it
calls C:. I've never had to recover from a failed cloning, so I'd
suggest reading through the posts you found about it and then if you
have further questions make a new thread for that specific problem.
That way you'll attract the people who are expert in that area.

My rule-of-thumb when installing operating systems is to always do as
plain vanilla install as possible with only the necessary hardware
connected. When imaging a drive on the original machine, I make sure
everything is the way it was when I made the clone.

Malke