logitech cordless click plus

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Rod Speed

Simply suggesting that his clients go to corded sounds like a cop-out to me.

Me too, tho it does sound like even he realises he's hopeless.
Sounds like you need a new PC engineer.

Or resolve the problem himself.
If it *is* interference, a decent PC snoop could find the source on site without too much problem.

Or just try a different cordless mouse if that isnt practical.
I'll *never* go back to a corded mouse.

Me neither. Or a corded keyboard either.
 
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kony

Simply suggesting that his clients go to corded sounds like a cop-out
to me. Sounds like you need a new PC engineer. If it *is* interference,
a decent PC snoop could find the source on site without too much
problem. I'll *never* go back to a corded mouse.


Finding source <> control over whether that source continues
to function. Usually a cordless mouse would be lower
priority that whatever else produces interference.

Corded mice aren't that much of an inconvenience though,
they do work better at actual mousing rather than
convenience of mobility. Some people may not need that
degree of precision or lowest latency though, if you aren't
picky about mice then cordless is great.
 
C

CBFalconer

UCLAN said:
Simply suggesting that his clients go to corded sounds like a
cop-out to me. Sounds like you need a new PC engineer. If it *is*
interference, a decent PC snoop could find the source on site
without too much problem. I'll *never* go back to a corded mouse.

Simply use the keyboard and let the poor rodent sleep. :)

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Rod Speed

Finding source <> control over whether that source continues
to function. Usually a cordless mouse would be lower
priority that whatever else produces interference.

'priority' is completely irrelevant to whether the RF protocol
is robust enough to be able to handle interference.
Corded mice aren't that much of an inconvenience though, they do
work better at actual mousing rather than convenience of mobility.

No they dont than a well designed cordless mouse.
Some people may not need that degree of precision or lowest latency though,

Almost no one does.
if you aren't picky about mice then cordless is great.

And well designed cordless mice are just as good
and have the tremendous advantage of no cord.

Not that you have ever noticed.
 
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Vanguard

Ken said:
Batteries are fine and there is an option called Smart Move but not
selected.
When my batteries get low I guess I get erratic.
Ken


There used to be a defect with Logitech's Mouseware. You could enable
features in the standard mouse applet, install their Mouseware which
overlays the mouse applet, use different settings in their overly
applet, but settings from the original settings were still obeyed. I
ran into that with the Smart Move (Snap-to-Default) option but it was
awhile ago. The Snap-To-Default option was set for the standard mouse
applet. When I installed Mouseware, the Smart Move was not select but
the mouse was still jumping to the default control in the window, if one
had been so designated. A similar problem was with acceleration which
was high in the standard applet but mid-range in Mouseware but the mouse
pointer was much faster than it should've been. I had to uninstall
Mouseware, reset the standard mouse applet to all the default settings
(mid-range for movement speed, snap-to-default off, cursor trails off,
etc.) and then install Mouseware so the settings that showed in
Mouseware where the ones effected alone on the mouse's behavior.
 
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Ken

Vanguard said:
There used to be a defect with Logitech's Mouseware. You could enable
features in the standard mouse applet, install their Mouseware which
overlays the mouse applet, use different settings in their overly applet,
but settings from the original settings were still obeyed. I ran into
that with the Smart Move (Snap-to-Default) option but it was awhile ago.
The Snap-To-Default option was set for the standard mouse applet. When I
installed Mouseware, the Smart Move was not select but the mouse was still
jumping to the default control in the window, if one had been so
designated. A similar problem was with acceleration which was high in the
standard applet but mid-range in Mouseware but the mouse pointer was much
faster than it should've been. I had to uninstall Mouseware, reset the
standard mouse applet to all the default settings (mid-range for movement
speed, snap-to-default off, cursor trails off, etc.) and then install
Mouseware so the settings that showed in Mouseware where the ones effected
alone on the mouse's behavior.

The joys of computers.
It seems that every now and then something arises which takes a while to
resolve, then all OK for a time until the next time!
 
K

kony

No they dont than a well designed cordless mouse.


Almost no one does.


It's not hard to notice the difference, I have tons of mice
and all but one strggler are Logitechs. My humble older
MX300 performs better than my Logitech cordless laser mice
or MX700 (which should've been roughly equivalent) for
example, and the lighter weight is nice too. At least now
many of the Logitech cordless can use 1 battery even though
the battery compartment would imply use of two. It is a bit
oddly designed though, both batteries are put into parallel
which could present a problem if the installer happened to
accidentally mix up batteries, putting one old/worn-down
cell back in alongside one new cell. Since it can run off
of one cell and is lighter, doing so avoids the potential
problem (albeit remote) entirely.

More people care about mousing precision than you think.
Some will have a reasonable corded mouse and don't just want
an upgrade or replacement to lose the wire, but of course
they may not compare the right mice and don't see the
difference. For every decent Logitech there are quite a few
more merely-median performing brands/models of either
(corded or cordless).
 
R

Rod Speed

It's not hard to notice the difference, I have tons of mice and
all but one strggler are Logitechs. My humble older MX300
performs better than my Logitech cordless laser mice or
MX700 (which should've been roughly equivalent) for example,

Easy to claim. How odd that my MX700 doesnt.
and the lighter weight is nice too.

Completely off with the ****ing fairys, as always.
At least now many of the Logitech cordless can use 1 battery
even though the battery compartment would imply use of two.
It is a bit oddly designed though, both batteries are put into
parallel which could present a problem if the installer happened
to accidentally mix up batteries, putting one old/worn-down
cell back in alongside one new cell. Since it can run off
of one cell and is lighter, doing so avoids the potential
problem (albeit remote) entirely.

Completely off with the ****ing fairys, as always.
More people care about mousing precision than you think.

A decent designed cordless mouse is plenty precise enough for most.
Some will have a reasonable corded mouse and don't just want
an upgrade or replacement to lose the wire, but of course they
may not compare the right mice and don't see the difference.

You in spades.
For every decent Logitech there are quite a few more merely-median
performing brands/models of either (corded or cordless).

Irrelevant to whether you can get a decently performing cordless mouse if you want one.
 
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kony

Easy to claim. How odd that my MX700 doesnt.

Doesn't what? Perform worse than same optical engined,
non-cordless? It does, and it was noted at the time
particularly by gamers, sometimes those heavily into image
editing or other tasks requiring a higher level of precision
or less lag.

Completely off with the ****ing fairys, as always.


Not at all, dealing with a cord is only one issue, among
others like shape, size, weight, lag, precision, driver
quality & features.

Completely off with the ****ing fairys, as always.


A decent designed cordless mouse is plenty precise enough for most.

If we want to make random assumptions about what "most"
need, any random 400 DPI corded mouse for $5 would suffice
too. IMO, "most" who seek to upgrade have a little bit more
in mind, which might be elimination of a cord, or might be
something else too or instead.

If a user switched from a mediocre old 400DPI mouse to a
newer cordless, I'm sure they'd not notice as much, as the
introduced lag is offset by the higher precision. That's a
contrast to someone who has a similarly good, modern corded
mouse. Even then, some may not appreciate the difference,
but we're on the topic so it is better to point out a
difference then let the user/buyer decide instead of making
assumptions for them.



Irrelevant to whether you can get a decently performing cordless mouse if you want one.

Depends on definition of decently, and what the tasks
demand.
 
R

Rod Speed

Doesn't what?

Doesnt do what you just claimed your MX700 does, perform worse than the MX300.
Perform worse than same optical engined, non-cordless?

Must be one of those rocket scientist pathetic excuses for a bullshit artist.

Easy to claim. How odd that my MX700 doesnt.
and it was noted at the time particularly by gamers, sometimes those heavily
into image editing or other tasks requiring a higher level of precision or less lag.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.
Not at all,

Corse you are, as always.
dealing with a cord is only one issue, among others like
shape, size, weight, lag, precision, driver quality & features.

Pathetic, really.
If we want to make random assumptions about what "most" need,
any random 400 DPI corded mouse for $5 would suffice too.

Completely off with the ****ing fairys, as always.

There is a lot more involved than just the DPI.
IMO, "most" who seek to upgrade have a little bit
more in mind, which might be elimination of a cord,
or might be something else too or instead.

Irrelevant to that stupid claim you made about precision.
If a user switched from a mediocre old 400DPI mouse
to a newer cordless, I'm sure they'd not notice as much,
as the introduced lag is offset by the higher precision.

No noticeable lag with an MX700.
That's a contrast to someone who has a similarly good, modern
corded mouse. Even then, some may not appreciate the difference,
but we're on the topic so it is better to point out a difference then let
the user/buyer decide instead of making assumptions for them.

Irrelevant to that stupid claim you made about precision.
Depends on definition of decently, and what the tasks demand.

Pathetic, really.
 

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