Link bars and navigation structure

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Brian

I just "upgraded" from FrontPage 98 to FP 2002, and for
some reason the newer version doesn't accept the
navigation structure of my original website, even though I
haven't changed anything about the site's navigation
structure.

My site is pretty basic. It looks like a family tree with
three levels: One home page at the top, a second tier of
pages below the home page, and a third tier of pages below
the second tier.

I have put a shared top border on each page and have
placed a link bar (formerly known as a navigation bar) in
each border. What I want is for each link bar to show the
child pages below each page and also the parent page and
the home page. This structure worked just fine when I was
using FP 98, but 2002 is rejecting it. All it will
display in the link bar is EITHER the child pages OR the
parent and home pages, but not both.

In the Link Bar Properties window, I have checked "Child
level" in the left column and "Home page" and "Parent
page" in the right column. According to the little
diagram in that window, those are the proper settings.
But they're not working.

Any advice would be appreciated. Please email me at
HapiCmpur(PleaseRemoveThis)@earthlink.net

Brian

P.S. It may help you to know that I lost my site's
original FP 98 files in a computer meltdown and had to
download the files from my host's servers after I fixed my
computer and installed FP 2002. Is it possible that
downloading from the Web made changes to my files that are
hard for FP 2002 to translate?
 
B

Brian

I can't seem to find your previous answer, so I don't know
what you mean by this correction.
 
M

MD WebsUnlimited.com

Hi Brian,

By "Downloading" do you mean that you open the site with FP2 then publish to
your HD? If not, then you lost the navigation.
 
B

Brian

You're right; downloading isn't the correct term.
Importing is.

Because I lost all of the website's files that were stored
on my computer's hard drive (and which were created in FP
98), I used FP 2002 to import those files directly from my
site on the Web. When they arrived in FP 2002, there was
no navigation structure, just a list of files and
folders. But I pulled those files out of the list and
dropped them into the navigation window in exactly the
same configuration they had been in originally, so I don't
understand why the link bar isn't responding the way it
used to.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

You need to open the site on the live server directly in FP2002, and then
publish to your local machine. Do not use import when you have login access,
as it will not retain shared borders, themes, or navigation structure.

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Brian

But the bottom line is that I have completely restored my
site (in FP 2002) to exactly the same configurations as
the original (in FP 98). The shared border is there on
every page. The link bar is there on every page. The
navigation structure is the same as it was in the
beginning. And more important, I truly believe that I
have the link bar properties correctly configured for my
nav structure. But it still isn't working.

I get the feeling that I'd be having the same problem even
if I created a site from scratch in FP 2002 rather than
having dowloaded it or imported it from a previous version.

Let me ask you this, though: When I right-click on the
link bar and select "Page properties" I get some choices
that I don't understand. Under "Design-time control
scripting" and "Platform" I can choose between "Client"
and "Server." All my pages are currently set
to "Client." Does that matter?

One last thing. I don't understand what you mean when you
say to "open the site on the live server directly in FP
2002, and then publish to your local machine." For one
thing, I don't know how to open the site on the line
server. For another, I wasn't aware that I could publish
to my local machine; I thought I could only publish FROM
my local machine TO my website host. Sorry to be dense
about this, but can you spell some of this procedure out
for me?
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

When you use the import function, all web structure is lost.

To retain the web structure, the site must be publish between
machines/locations.

To open your live site, which must have the FP extensions, you would use:

File Menu | Open Web and enter the URL to your domain as:
http://www.yourdomainname.com

then you publish to your HD as:

File Menu | Publish Web and enter the path to a folder on your HD as:

c:\mywebname

FP2002 has major changes over FP98 in how the navigation structure is
structured, themes and the link bar didn't existing in FP98.



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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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Brian

When I attempt to follow the first step in your
instructions, I get an error message saying "The folder
isn't accessible. The folder may be located in an
unavailable location, protected with a password, or the
filename contains a /or \."

My site does have FP extensions, and I am entering the
correct password and username.

Be that as it may, I think we're chasing a red herring
here. As I said before, I have restored my navigation
structure to its original configuration, just as if I had
recreated the entire website from scratch. It seems to
me, therefore, that the problem I'm having is unlikely to
be related to how I imported the files into FP 2002.

Please see below in my original message where I describe
my site's structure and the link bar properties I have
selected to go with it. Could that be the problem?
 

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