Limit on Network Users.

T

TonySper

I have been getting a message at times when I try and send an email.
"To many users on the network" We have a network set up as peer to
peer using windows XP pro on 6 computers and one XP home edition on 1
computer as well as 1 network printer, 1 Fax machine, and one copy
machine connected to the system. Does anyone know if there is a limit
as to how many workstations you can connect on a peer to peer
system???
TonySper
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

TonySper said:
I have been getting a message at times when I try and send an email.
"To many users on the network" We have a network set up as peer to
peer using windows XP pro on 6 computers and one XP home edition on 1
computer as well as 1 network printer, 1 Fax machine, and one copy
machine connected to the system. Does anyone know if there is a limit
as to how many workstations you can connect on a peer to peer
system???



The limit is ten simultaneous connections for XP Professional, and five for
XP Home. If all are simultaneously connected, you are apparently exceeding
the limit on your XP Home machine.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

TonySper said:
I have been getting a message at times when I try and send an email.
"To many users on the network" We have a network set up as peer to
peer using windows XP pro on 6 computers and one XP home edition on
1 computer as well as 1 network printer, 1 Fax machine, and one copy
machine connected to the system. Does anyone know if there is a
limit as to how many workstations you can connect on a peer to peer
system???

"Where" do you get this message?
Is it a Windows Popup or is it something you are getting back via email
message?
 
T

TonySper

Thanks Ken. Strange as we have been using the system for 5 years and
were on windows 98 for a while with no problems but we have added the
printer and fax machine.
TonySper

TonySper said:
I have been getting a message at times when I try and send an email.
"To many users on the network" We have a network set up as peer to
peer using windows XP pro on 6 computers and one XP home edition on
1
computer as well as 1 network printer, 1 Fax machine, and one copy
machine connected to the system. Does anyone know if there is a
limit
as to how many workstations you can connect on a peer to peer
system???



The limit is ten simultaneous connections for XP Professional, and
five for
XP Home. If all are simultaneously connected, you are apparently
exceeding
the limit on your XP Home machine.
 
F

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE

TonySper said:
Thanks Ken. Strange as we have been using the system for 5 years and
were on windows 98 for a while with no problems but we have added the
printer and fax machine.
TonySper





The limit is ten simultaneous connections for XP Professional, and
five for
XP Home. If all are simultaneously connected, you are apparently
exceeding
the limit on your XP Home machine.

The printer and FAX probably each count as an additional network connection.

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T

TonySper

Carey,
If I am reading this correctly I believe it means that any ONE
computer cannot have more than 5 computers connected to it at one time
if it is XP home and any ONE computer cannot have more than 10
computers connected to it at one time if it is XP pro. My question
should have been "What is the limit to how many computers can be
connected to the LAN at any one time?" Most of the time the
workstations are on the internet and only communicate with the server
at a limited periods. Does this 5 and 10 minute limit pertain as to
how many can be on a workgroup at any one time??
TonySper

Inbound connections limit in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314882
 
M

Malke

TonySper said:
Carey,
If I am reading this correctly I believe it means that any ONE
computer cannot have more than 5 computers connected to it at one time
if it is XP home and any ONE computer cannot have more than 10
computers connected to it at one time if it is XP pro. My question
should have been "What is the limit to how many computers can be
connected to the LAN at any one time?" Most of the time the
workstations are on the internet and only communicate with the server
at a limited periods. Does this 5 and 10 minute limit pertain as to
how many can be on a workgroup at any one time??
TonySper

I'm not Carey, but... The limitation is for *connections*, not
*computers*. This is an important distinction because one *computer*
will ordinarily make more than one *connection* to another computer.
The inbound connections limitation has nothing to do with how many
computers are on a peer-to-peer (non-domain) network. It has to do with
how many *connections* are being made to one particular computer at a
time.

This is a common occurrence in small businesses where the company will
use a Windows XP Pro (or occasionally XP Home) computer as a "file
server" or a "server" hosting specialized niche software. From a
computer management perspective, if a company has more than 10 or so
computers, they should be using a domain anyway.

I don't know what you are using the "server" computer for, but it sounds
like you need to either put a MS server operating system on it OR if it
is not actively running software that will only work on Windows (just
doing file/print-serving) you could install Linux on it which has no
inbound connection limitation.

Malke
 
T

TonySper

Malke,
Thanks for clearing me on that. Yes I think it is about time to switch
to maybe a true server. I cleared most of the problems by just not
sharing the printer. Each workstation has there own printer and are
not using the server printer anyway. It would be very rare to have
more than 9 workstations connected to any one computer but it did
happen when we connected up a couple of test workstations and left
them connected to the server. Live and learn. Most all the programs
here are windows so have to stay with XP for now.
TonySper

TonySper said:
Carey,
If I am reading this correctly I believe it means that any ONE
computer cannot have more than 5 computers connected to it at one
time
if it is XP home and any ONE computer cannot have more than 10
computers connected to it at one time if it is XP pro. My question
should have been "What is the limit to how many computers can be
connected to the LAN at any one time?" Most of the time the
workstations are on the internet and only communicate with the
server
at a limited periods. Does this 5 and 10 minute limit pertain as to
how many can be on a workgroup at any one time??
TonySper

I'm not Carey, but... The limitation is for *connections*, not
*computers*. This is an important distinction because one *computer*
will ordinarily make more than one *connection* to another computer.
The inbound connections limitation has nothing to do with how many
computers are on a peer-to-peer (non-domain) network. It has to do
with
how many *connections* are being made to one particular computer at a
time.

This is a common occurrence in small businesses where the company will
use a Windows XP Pro (or occasionally XP Home) computer as a "file
server" or a "server" hosting specialized niche software. From a
computer management perspective, if a company has more than 10 or so
computers, they should be using a domain anyway.

I don't know what you are using the "server" computer for, but it
sounds
like you need to either put a MS server operating system on it OR if
it
is not actively running software that will only work on Windows (just
doing file/print-serving) you could install Linux on it which has no
inbound connection limitation.

Malke
 
M

Malke

TonySper said:
Malke,
Thanks for clearing me on that. Yes I think it is about time to switch
to maybe a true server. I cleared most of the problems by just not
sharing the printer. Each workstation has there own printer and are
not using the server printer anyway. It would be very rare to have
more than 9 workstations connected to any one computer but it did
happen when we connected up a couple of test workstations and left
them connected to the server. Live and learn. Most all the programs
here are windows so have to stay with XP for now.

You're welcome, Tony. You don't have to get elaborate with Server, but
don't let it intimidate you either. Windows Server 2003 is really very
nice and easy to set up. Look at the Small Business Server edition.

Malke
 

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