Like your USB flash drive?

[sbb78247]

I subsequently asked about that in a Windows XP group.

and you were told to go **** yourserlf???

HTH HAND and GFIA

 

[John Doe]

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and you were told to go **** yourserlf???

HTH HAND and GFIA

 

[Mxsmanic]

Is that the view from France? That's nonsense.

That's the view worldwide. That's why computers still have disks.

If your time isn't worth anything, maybe.

It takes less time to back up to tape than to back up to flash
devices. And tape is much cheaper and has much greater capacity.

Backups currently on USB flash drives. Are you deaf?

You must not have much to back up, or you have hundreds or thousands
of drives on hand.

The average personal computer user doesn't need gigabytes of
long-term archives. The average personal computer user probably
doesn't do backups at all, partly because burning CDs/DVDs is too
much trouble.

That may be why some average personal computer users seriously believe
that flash drives are a practical archive and backup medium.

Easier than a hard drive?
Yes.

What is your problem?

I don't have a problem. I have experience.

 

[John Doe]

That's the view worldwide. That's why computers still have disks.

This is amusing. You're incapable of quoting more than one level in
your replies, yet you continue babbling about archiving stuff.

If your time isn't worth anything, maybe [flash drives are too
expensive].

And tape is much cheaper and has much greater capacity.

I guess personal computer users use tape drives a lot over there in
France.

You must not have much to back up,

To my creativity, 1 GB is a lot.

or you have hundreds or thousands of drives on hand.

Once again, what do you use terabytes worth of archives for?

Are you a modern Leonardo da Vinci?

That may be why some average personal computer users seriously
believe that flash drives are a practical archive and backup
medium.

lol

Most typing chores are done for me by my computer. I never make a
spelling error.

My computer obeys verbal commands, lots of system wide scripts. I
copy a file name simply by saying "get name". To take a word to the
previous window, I say "2 get switch". I enter clipboard contents
into a text box and search by saying "1 put go". Those are a few out
of very many systemwide scripts produced by a small user interface
vocabulary. Rudimentary tasks are automated and activated by two or
three syllable voice commands. Much of my computer gaming is
automated. If you do macroing/scripting, voice activation takes you
to the next level.

What are advanced PC user skills, in your opinion?

I don't have a problem. I have experience.

I think part of Mxsmanic's motive for spewing nonsense is jealousy.
He can see that toys are easier to come by over here in the states
and that rubs him the wrong way.

Oh well.

OINK!

 

[Thomas Wendell]

And if the hard drive fails, it's impossible to recover the NTFS
encrypted data stored on the flash drive?

I'm getting no response from the Windows XP help group. I suspect
the answer is negative.

Thanks.

If the HD fails (the one with your user credentials and encryptment keys)
then that USB flash drive is also dead as what comes to the contents of it,
I Think..?????

More on XP/2k3 EFS
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/cryptfs.mspx


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[Mxsmanic]

This is amusing. You're incapable of quoting more than one level in
your replies, yet you continue babbling about archiving stuff.

You don't remember what you wrote?

I guess personal computer users use tape drives a lot over there in
France.

People who are serious about backups often do, no matter where they
live. I have two DAT drives myself.

Once again, what do you use terabytes worth of archives for?

Are you a modern Leonardo da Vinci?

I have about 700 GB of online storage, and I need the means to back up
all of it, if necessary.

What are advanced PC user skills, in your opinion?

They can be inferred by measuring productivity.

I think part of Mxsmanic's motive for spewing nonsense is jealousy.
He can see that toys are easier to come by over here in the states
and that rubs him the wrong way.

I stopped playing with toys a long time ago.

 

[John Doe]

You don't remember what you wrote?

Quoting context is a common practice/courtesy here on USENET.

People who are serious about backups often do, no matter where
they live. I have two DAT drives myself.

You are silly IMO.

I have about 700 GB of online storage, and I need the means to
back up all of it, if necessary.

What is it?

Pornography? Copyrighted works? Is something getting lost in the
translation of my question?

 

[Mxsmanic]

Quoting context is a common practice/courtesy here on USENET.

I did. Don't you remember what you wrote?

What is it?

Everything on all my disk drives.

Pornography? Copyrighted works? Is something getting lost in the
translation of my question?

Everything on all my disk drives. I learned long ago not to attempt
piecemeal backups. Full backups are the most reliable backups.

 

[John Doe]

I did.

Did not.

Everything on all my disk drives.

Something was lost in the lack of quoting, again.

Everything on all my disk drives. I learned long ago not to
attempt piecemeal backups. Full backups are the most reliable
backups.

Windows and your programs use 700 GB?

 

[Mxsmanic]

Windows and your programs use 700 GB?

No, but that's the capacity of the drives, so I have to be prepared to
back up as much as 700 GB.

 

[JAD]

No, but that's the capacity of the drives, so I have to be prepared to
back up as much as 700 GB.

Thats crazy talk

 

[Blinky the Shark]

I own both USB flash drives, as well as multiple DVD and CD burners. IMHO,
they're not comparable. Flash drives are like super-dooper floppy drives
(read-write, smaller capacities), and CD/DVD burners are more for
archival/longer term storage. The reason for this is the cost per megabyte
of long term storage. Once your flash drive is full, you either have to
remove stuff off of it (if you want to store more), or buy another drive (at
what, $40 or $50/GB?). With a DVD burner, when you need more storage, you
buy another disk at what, $0.50 for 4GB.

<reading whole thread>

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do have a datapoint. I ran
across a *64-gig* USB flash drive today. I had no idea anybody was
making them that large. It was almost $3,000 US. Yow!

 

[John Doe]

<reading whole thread>

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do have a datapoint. I
ran across a *64-gig* USB flash drive today. I had no idea
anybody was making them that large. It was almost $3,000 US.
Yow!

Why don't you post a link?

A few days ago, I picked up a 1 GB USB flash Drive for $20 at the
local megastore. At the other large store, many of their flash
drives are on sale, and prices of others have dropped 20% in the
last week. Not that I would buy at a local store (with that $20
exception), but just for reference.

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[Blinky the Shark]

Why don't you post a link?

I don't know how to post a link to a piece of paper.

That said, it was Tiger Direct's paper catalog.

A few days ago, I picked up a 1 GB USB flash Drive for $20 at the
local megastore. At the other large store, many of their flash
drives are on sale, and prices of others have dropped 20% in the
last week. Not that I would buy at a local store (with that $20
exception), but just for reference.

Except for handling a flood of original spam/troll posts, the only
filter you need is ignore subthread (ignore thread branch). It's the
most powerful filter, unfortunately some newsreaders don't do it.

I don't filter the whole thread. I filter Google Groupers. So thread
and thread branch filters are irrelevant. As for the (still unwritten)
page on specific filters, I'm talking about syntax for rulesets for
specific clients. The regs at news.software.readers have submitted ones
for news clients I don't know myself.

 

[John Weiss]

Anybody have a flash drive and don't like them? Somehow I doubt it.

I have a Memorex and a pair of Crucial Gizmos, all in 512 MB. All work just
fine.

Those who don't shop around and check the specs may be disappointed, though.
Some older drives may still be marketed as "USB 2.0 compatible" when they're
actually USB 1.1 compliant. I've seen that in the past (up to 6 months ago,
anyhow), though I don't know how common the [mal] practice still is...

 

[Mxsmanic]

Thats crazy talk

No one will ever need more than 640 KB of RAM.

 

[John Doe]

I don't know how to post a link to a piece of paper.

Posting a link to a mirage would be very difficult too.

That said, it was Tiger Direct's paper catalog.

Whatever it is, you can't find it on Tiger Direct's web site or any
place else on the Internet? Do you remember what it was called or
the manufacturer name?

Some manufacturer could have combined lots of flash memory and added
a USB connector. Anything is possible.

I don't filter the whole thread. I filter Google Groupers. So
thread and thread branch filters are irrelevant.

So if your Google Grouper starts a thread, you have a thread without
an original poster?

Ignoring a subthread (or a whole thread if it be) started by the
author you want to filter eliminates the problem. Otherwise you will
be doing the typical clumsy filtering. Your threads will contain
phantom posters and will be difficult to follow.

That's what trips up clumsy kill file users. After the initial
infatuation with PLONK, they stumble over all of the replies to the
person they don't want to read. Oh well. The ability to ignore a
thread branch solves that problem.

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[John Doe]

I have a Memorex and a pair of Crucial Gizmos, all in 512 MB. All
work just fine.

Those who don't shop around and check the specs may be
disappointed, though. Some older drives may still be marketed as
"USB 2.0 compatible" when they're actually USB 1.1 compliant. I've
seen that in the past (up to 6 months ago, anyhow), though I don't
know how common the [mal] practice still is...

I was thinking that about the PNY 1GB drive I just got from Wal-Mart
for $20. It says "USB 2.0 compatible" but it runs at 1/4 speed of
the Kingston and Corsair I have. I wasn't really surprised. I'll
probably keep it anyway, use it for occasional redundant backups,
take it with me, and if it gets broken it's no problem. At least
until six months from now when I can get fast 2 GB flash drives for
$20. I think it's an actively consumer driven market, ordinary users
probably are eating them up.

Surprisingly the Kingston DataTraveler II (256 MB) writes fast as
the Corsair (1 GB) at about 13 MB per second (specified).

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Posting a link to a mirage would be very difficult too.

And usually I do enjoy a challenge. But it's been hot and humid and
I've been cranky.

Whatever it is, you can't find it on Tiger Direct's web site or any
place else on the Internet? Do you remember what it was called or the
manufacturer name?

I didn't look. I provided one source (the URL isn't hard to figure out)
for anyone interested enough to do a search or two.

Brand name is Kanguru. I don't know that hame from anywhere else, but
Tiger has a whole page of their stuff. Their stock number for it is
I46-2060. Their price is $2,799.99 US. "Kanguru Flash Max Drive"

Some manufacturer could have combined lots of flash memory and added a
USB connector. Anything is possible.

At my favorite retailer, I find six or seven brands of thumb drives.
I've kept with Lexar and Corsair. The other of the three they stock in
the largest quantities (even more than Sandisk, I'd say) is "PNY" (or it
may be "PCY"). I've not seen that brand elsewhere, and know nothing
about it. Has it a reputation? If so, is it good or bad?

So if your Google Grouper starts a thread, you have a thread without
an original poster?

The GG's posts do not appear.

Ignoring a subthread (or a whole thread if it be) started by the
author you want to filter eliminates the problem. Otherwise you will
be doing the typical clumsy filtering. Your threads will contain
phantom posters and will be difficult to follow.

I'll still interact with the *non* Google Groupers. I just won't waste
any time on the Google Groupers. If I wanted to kill the thread (or the
thread branch), I would.

That's what trips up clumsy kill file users. After the initial

I wouldn't know about clumsy kill file users. I'm very precise with
mine. Including not killing a whole thread with an atrillery round when
I can just pick off the Google Grouper with one slug from my sniper
rifle.

infatuation with PLONK, they stumble over all of the replies to the
person they don't want to read. Oh well. The ability to ignore a
thread branch solves that problem.

Yep -- there are incompetent users of any tool.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

I have a Memorex and a pair of Crucial Gizmos, all in 512 MB. All
work just fine.

Those who don't shop around and check the specs may be
disappointed, though. Some older drives may still be marketed as
"USB 2.0 compatible" when they're actually USB 1.1 compliant. I've
seen that in the past (up to 6 months ago, anyhow), though I don't
know how common the [mal] practice still is...

I was thinking that about the PNY 1GB drive I just got from Wal-Mart

I just asked you what you knew about this brand in my other reply to you
on this thread.

for $20. It says "USB 2.0 compatible" but it runs at 1/4 speed of
the Kingston and Corsair I have. I wasn't really surprised. I'll

That's good enough as an answer to my elsewhere question. Thanks.