Like it says on the tin

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Dave T

Hello,

I have been reading a lot of messages about the fact that I as the owner and
user of my P.C I can’t change the attributes in my folders in Windows
Explorer eg take the read only setting off the folder,
I have created the disk partition on the drive, I have created and named the
folder. I have been reading about changing the registry settings, changing
administrative rights, using run cmd and select security tab in properties
(which does not appear when I select properties) is there an easy way to take
control (as it says in the properties uncheck and apply )and use my P.C as I
want. I don’t want to do all of the above to change a simple setting, I think
it is some thing like this that gives Windows a bad name please prove me
wrong or my next computer might be a Mack.

Thank you for your help

Dave T
 
Dave T said:
Hello,

I have been reading a lot of messages about the fact that I as the
owner and user of my P.C I can't change the attributes in my
folders in Windows Explorer eg take the read only setting off the
folder,
I have created the disk partition on the drive, I have created and
named the folder. I have been reading about changing the registry
settings, changing administrative rights, using run cmd and select
security tab in properties (which does not appear when I select
properties) is there an easy way to take control (as it says in the
properties uncheck and apply )and use my P.C as I want. I don't want
to do all of the above to change a simple setting, I think it is some
thing like this that gives Windows a bad name please prove me wrong

or my next computer might be a Mack.
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Or a Tony or an Andrew!
Thank you for your help

Dave T
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The read-only attribute on a folder is generally irrelevant. You might
mention the actual problem you're experiencing with it....

You can also read
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326549
 
Dave said:
Hello,

I have been reading a lot of messages about the fact that I as the owner and
user of my P.C I can’t change the attributes in my folders in Windows
Explorer eg take the read only setting off the folder,
I have created the disk partition on the drive, I have created and named the
folder. I have been reading about changing the registry settings, changing
administrative rights, using run cmd and select security tab in properties
(which does not appear when I select properties) is there an easy way to take
control (as it says in the properties uncheck and apply )and use my P.C as I
want. I don’t want to do all of the above to change a simple setting, I think
it is some thing like this that gives Windows a bad name please prove me
wrong or my next computer might be a Mack.

Thank you for your help

Dave T
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Macs are expensive. Check out Linux Ubuntu. You can install it on your
present computer and nuke Vista if you want. http://www.ubuntu.com/

It's free and comes with access to over 20,000 free programs. No WPA, no
WGA and bulletproof compared to Windows in regards to virus and malware.

Alias
 
Thank you for your very quick reply, the problem is as stated in your Windows
link, that a program I am using Sony Vagas video editing software will not
allow me to select the folder I want to use. I wish to remove the attribute
(read only) to see if this solves the problem. As stated in my e-mail I have
tried the run cmd ,this did not work. I did try it with and without the
spaces as it did not appear clear if spaces were used.
Thank once again fro your help
 
Dave T said:
Hello,

I have been reading a lot of messages about the fact that I as the owner and
user of my P.C I can’t change the attributes in my folders in Windows
Explorer eg take the read only setting off the folder,
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Folders don't have a read-only property. What you see on the
"Properties" page for a folder is a three-state checkbox in its third
state: neither checked nor unchecked. It's a short cut that allows you
to set or clear the read-only attribute for *all* files within the
folder very quickly.
 
I think I know what you mean, but to have three states in one check box is
not a good way of expressing the state of the folder, as a rule a check box
has two states on or off, how are you expected to know about a third state.
Showing a ticked box in read only makes you think that this folder is read
only (as it says on the tin). Sorry for been a bit thick, but just to get
this straight, this read only box been ticked will not stop you selecting
this folder as a operational folder for my video editing software.

Thank you to every one for there help,
I think I will have to look at another solution.
 
Dave said:
I think I know what you mean, but to have three states in one check
box is not a good way of expressing the state of the folder, as a
rule a check box has two states on or off, how are you expected to
know about a third state. Showing a ticked box in read only makes you
think that this folder is read only (as it says on the tin). Sorry
for been a bit thick, but just to get this straight, this read only
box been ticked will not stop you selecting this folder as a
operational folder for my video editing software.

Thank you to every one for there help,
I think I will have to look at another solution.
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No, check boxes can have three states. Whether the programmer choses to
implement the third possibility is his choice. The problem you experience is
the fault of the application software, not XP (if, indeed, the application
software is consulting the read-only flag of the folder).
 
Alias said:
Macs are expensive. Check out Linux Ubuntu. You can install it on your
present computer and nuke Vista if you want. http://www.ubuntu.com/

It's free and comes with access to over 20,000 free programs. No WPA,
no WGA and bulletproof compared to Windows in regards to virus and
malware.
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Right. There seem to be about eight free video editting software packages
for Linux. There are about 85 (free and paid) for Windows or Macs, according
to this list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software
 
Dave T said:
I think I know what you mean, but to have three states in one check box is
not a good way of expressing the state of the folder, as a rule a check
box
has two states on or off, how are you expected to know about a third
state.
Showing a ticked box in read only makes you think that this folder is read
only (as it says on the tin). Sorry for been a bit thick, but just to get
this straight, this read only box been ticked will not stop you selecting
this folder as a operational folder for my video editing software.
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The reason for the grey tick is that the folder *may* contain files and
folders that are read-only, or they might all not be read-only. If the OS
was to check all the files and folders contained within a folder that may
have many hierarchical levels, it would take ages just to display the
Properties tab.

ss.
 
HeyBub said:
Right. There seem to be about eight free video editting software packages
for Linux. There are about 85 (free and paid) for Windows or Macs, according
to this list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software
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Neither the OP nor I said *anything* about video editing programs. That
said, open Synaptic and search for "video" and you will find a helluva
lot more programs for Ubuntu that 85.

I guess you agree with me on the other points I made as to the
superiority of Ubuntu over Windows.

Alias
 
Tim Slattery said:
Folders don't have a read-only property.
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You can set the read-only attribute of a folder with the ATTRIB command.
Like the User Shell Folders need to have the read-only attribute set to
display their special icons correctly.

ss.
 
Synapse Syndrome said:
You can set the read-only attribute of a folder with the ATTRIB command.
Like the User Shell Folders need to have the read-only attribute set to
display their special icons correctly.
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Oh, when I mentioned the User Shell Folders, I thought that I was in the
Vista group, but there are still read-only attributes on folders within
2000/XP.

ss.
 
Synapse said:
The reason for the grey tick is that the folder *may* contain files and
folders that are read-only, or they might all not be read-only. If the OS
was to check all the files and folders contained within a folder that may
have many hierarchical levels, it would take ages just to display the
Properties tab.

ss.
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The contents of the box indicates nothing, UNLESS the user is intending
to change the "read-only" attributes of the folders contents, THEN it
indicates what WILL be applied if OK is clicked. grey=nochange, check
mark= files will become read-only, no check=files will have read-only
cleared.
 
Bob I said:
The contents of the box indicates nothing, UNLESS the user is intending to
change the "read-only" attributes of the folders contents, THEN it
indicates what WILL be applied if OK is clicked. grey=nochange, check
mark= files will become read-only, no check=files will have read-only
cleared.
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Yes, I know. The contents of the folder can be changed by clearing the
tick, or making it black. But the grey tick is confusing the OP, and it
means that the contents MAY BE READ ONLY OR NOT. Jeez..

ss.
 
Synapse said:
Yes, I know. The contents of the folder can be changed by clearing the
tick, or making it black. But the grey tick is confusing the OP, and it
means that the contents MAY BE READ ONLY OR NOT. Jeez..

ss.
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No, it means NOTHING, zip, nada, squat, ziltch, nothing about the contents.
 
Bob I said:
No, it means NOTHING, zip, nada, squat, ziltch, nothing about the
contents.
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Bob, you really don't get it, do you? You are not disagreeing with me, just
annoying me. Take your simpleton technical advice away from me please.

ss.
 
WinXp Pro or Home?
If he's on Home, it's 'normal' that there's no security setting.
NTFS or Fat?
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On NTFS, even in Home, open up a cmd window and use the cacls command:

cacls DirToTakeOver /T /C username:F

Warning: this is a powerful and dangerous command. Do some tests
 
Alias said:
Neither the OP nor I said *anything* about video editing programs.
That said, open Synaptic and search for "video" and you will find a
helluva lot more programs for Ubuntu that 85.
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The OP's problem centered around the use of a video editing program:

"I am using Sony Vagas video editing software will not
allow me to select the folder I want to use."

*I* don't want to know exactly how many video editing programs there are for
Linux. I was just making a comparison: Eight for Linux, about ten times that
number for Windows/Macs. If Synaptic (whatever that is) shows 100 video
editing packages for Linux, there's probably another site that shows 1000
for Windows/Macs. It's the ratio that's important, not the actual numbers.
I guess you agree with me on the other points I made as to the
superiority of Ubuntu over Windows.
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Ah, but you didn't say Ubuntu was superior. You said it's free, no WPA, no
WGA, and bulletproof. None of which fit any definition of "superior."

Heck, a lot of malware have the same attributes; might as well load up
W32/Netsky instead of Linux. It's even easier to get - 32% of computers have
a copy whereas only 0.86% of computers have Linux.
 

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