Lets Talk CD Labels

[Al Stu]

Okay. First off we all know or should know that burnt (as opposed to stamped) CDs are not really a permanent storage media. One of the weaknesses is the backing material (mfg's label) is fairly fragile and if written on with most ordinary pens (felt and others) the ink can deteriorate or eat through causing data loss.



For reproducible CDs this is no big deal, but for original video footage archiving it is critical. So I am looking for info about the effect label adhesives may have but only find labels. Anyone have experience, knowledge, articles, info. on this subject?



"PapaJohn", You are welcome to respond so long as you don't direct me to navigate your web-site.

 

[PapaJohn \(MVP\)]

I have a rule not to use pasted on disc labels... my laptops have less clearance than my desktop computers and the labels can interfere with the spinning dis.

I was using Sharpie markers to crudely note the discs until recently... got an Epson Stylus Photo R200 printer which can print directly on printable discs.

I've tried the white surface discs and the silver .... the silver wins by a mile for professional appearance.

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Okay. First off we all know or should know that burnt (as opposed to stamped) CDs are not really a permanent storage media. One of the weaknesses is the backing material (mfg's label) is fairly fragile and if written on with most ordinary pens (felt and others) the ink can deteriorate or eat through causing data loss.



For reproducible CDs this is no big deal, but for original video footage archiving it is critical. So I am looking for info about the effect label adhesives may have but only find labels. Anyone have experience, knowledge, articles, info. on this subject?



"PapaJohn", You are welcome to respond so long as you don't direct me to navigate your web-site.

 

[Al Stu]

Okay for new archives, but doesn't work for existing DVD archives. Main interest is safely labeling existing DVD archives without reducing there longevity. I'd like to find some info about the effects of labels and their adhesives on the longevity of ordinary DVD +R media.

I have a rule not to use pasted on disc labels... my laptops have less clearance than my desktop computers and the labels can interfere with the spinning dis.

I was using Sharpie markers to crudely note the discs until recently... got an Epson Stylus Photo R200 printer which can print directly on printable discs.

I've tried the white surface discs and the silver .... the silver wins by a mile for professional appearance.

--
PapaJohn
Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org

tips and tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693

Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx

Okay. First off we all know or should know that burnt (as opposed to stamped) CDs are not really a permanent storage media. One of the weaknesses is the backing material (mfg's label) is fairly fragile and if written on with most ordinary pens (felt and others) the ink can deteriorate or eat through causing data loss.



For reproducible CDs this is no big deal, but for original video footage archiving it is critical. So I am looking for info about the effect label adhesives may have but only find labels. Anyone have experience, knowledge, articles, info. on this subject?



"PapaJohn", You are welcome to respond so long as you don't direct me to navigate your web-site.

 

[John Inzer]

My only direct experience was with some
homemade DVDs a friend of mine gave me.
They all had adhesive backed paper labels
and would skip when playing in my DVD
player. Also, the graphics would sometimes
have huge streaks of color that totally
prevented me from viewing the content.

Using a product called GooGone, I was able
to safely remove the labels and then they all
played perfectly.

Maybe these links will offer something useful:

http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/carefordisc/

http://www.dvdtech.com.au/info/FAQ.htm

I would suspect the best way currently
available to label optical media would
be LightScribe.
http://www.lightscribe.com/

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! MVP



Okay. First off we all know or should know that burnt (as opposed to
stamped) CDs are not really a permanent storage media. One of the
weaknesses is the backing material (mfg's label) is fairly fragile and if
written on with most ordinary pens (felt and others) the ink can deteriorate
or eat through causing data loss.

For reproducible CDs this is no big deal, but for original video footage
archiving it is critical. So I am looking for info about the effect label
adhesives may have but only find labels. Anyone have experience, knowledge,
articles, info. on this subject?

"PapaJohn", You are welcome to respond so long as you don't direct me to
navigate your web-site.

 

[Al Stu]

That LightScribe technology looks pretty cool. But it will be HOT when they
take it full color. Which shouldn't be too difficult, with the precision of
a laser they should be able to do multi-color pixels similar to a display.

 

[Rach]

When I was working, I cleaned label goo out of too many cd and dvd drives to
EVER use a stick on label! LOL

Yesterday I bought a computer with a Light scribe drive. We'll see.

Rach

 

[J. Daniel Smith]

I read somewhere (too lazy to Google right now) that adhesive labels should NOT be used on DVDs as they are on CDs. The reason I recall being given was the DVDs spin faster than CDs and unless the label is on PERFECT (effectively impossible) the DVD will wobble slightly which can create many more problems than with a CD due to the higher data density and transfer rate.

Personally, I use a Sharpie on both CDs and DVDs. I noticed the other day that Costco has a 50-pack of print-on DVDs (TDK - white) for $22 which might be better than using a sharpie on regular DVDs as that label is intended to take ink.

Dan
Okay. First off we all know or should know that burnt (as opposed to stamped) CDs are not really a permanent storage media. One of the weaknesses is the backing material (mfg's label) is fairly fragile and if written on with most ordinary pens (felt and others) the ink can deteriorate or eat through causing data loss.



For reproducible CDs this is no big deal, but for original video footage archiving it is critical. So I am looking for info about the effect label adhesives may have but only find labels. Anyone have experience, knowledge, articles, info. on this subject?



"PapaJohn", You are welcome to respond so long as you don't direct me to navigate your web-site.

 

[Wojo]

I have read the same but I do use adhesive labels anyway except on my archive DVD's and have never had a problem.
On the archive DVD's I don't use them simply because I don't want to take the risk on anything I can't easily recreate. For those I use Memorex CD/DVD markers. They don't cost any more than sharpies.

I read somewhere (too lazy to Google right now) that adhesive labels should NOT be used on DVDs as they are on CDs. The reason I recall being given was the DVDs spin faster than CDs and unless the label is on PERFECT (effectively impossible) the DVD will wobble slightly which can create many more problems than with a CD due to the higher data density and transfer rate.

Personally, I use a Sharpie on both CDs and DVDs. I noticed the other day that Costco has a 50-pack of print-on DVDs (TDK - white) for $22 which might be better than using a sharpie on regular DVDs as that label is intended to take ink.

Dan
Okay. First off we all know or should know that burnt (as opposed to stamped) CDs are not really a permanent storage media. One of the weaknesses is the backing material (mfg's label) is fairly fragile and if written on with most ordinary pens (felt and others) the ink can deteriorate or eat through causing data loss.



For reproducible CDs this is no big deal, but for original video footage archiving it is critical. So I am looking for info about the effect label adhesives may have but only find labels. Anyone have experience, knowledge, articles, info. on this subject?



"PapaJohn", You are welcome to respond so long as you don't direct me to navigate your web-site.