Laptop not finding Desktop Shared Folders

[Ryan]

Laptop : Windows XP Home, SP1a
Desktop : Windows 2000 Pro SP4

D-Link DSL 504 Router

Yesterday I bought a laptop with Win XP installed and
connected it to my home network router. The laptop can't
find any of the shared folders on my main machine and
sometimes fails to even locate the workgroup. The error
message (below) often appears the instant I click to
connect to the workgroup, not even allowing time to look.
Sometimes the laptop will display the 2 PCs in the
workgroup, sometimes it wont.

Heres the strange part. The laptop has full internet
connection through the router and my main PC can find all
the shared drives on the laptop.

Error Message:

"Workgroup is not accesable. you might not have permission
to use this network resouce. contact the administrator of
this server to find out if you have permissions. windows
cannot find a network path. verify that the network path
is correct and the destination computer is not busy or
turned off"

This is what I have done sofar (i'm no expert)

*Changed network cables
*IPConfig was returning the results you would expect for a
working home network
*Ping was also giving the results you would expect form a
working connection
*Re-installed network card drivers
*all winxp updates done
*both machines have indentical full access permissions
*created users on each machine to match login names
* tried allowing auto TCP properties and manual setting up

(once when I specified the IP address I got a connection,
unfortunetly it only lasted for a few mins untill i have
to restart the laptop)

Thanks for any suggestions and let me know if i can give
any more info.

Regards

Ryan

 

[Luke]

Hi Ryan,
This problem sounds like a configuration issue on
the laptop. The first thing to check is whether Windows
XP has bridged your network connection. to chekc this;
1. Open network connections
2. Check that you have a LAN connection and that there is
NOT a connection that has been bridged. (This is when two
network connections are joined together, will appear as a
bridge icon).
3. If a connection has been bridged then right-hand click
on the bridge connection and choose 'disable'. Then
delete it.
Let me know if this is the case, Luke.

 

[Chuck]

Laptop : Windows XP Home, SP1a
Desktop : Windows 2000 Pro SP4

D-Link DSL 504 Router

Yesterday I bought a laptop with Win XP installed and
connected it to my home network router. The laptop can't
find any of the shared folders on my main machine and
sometimes fails to even locate the workgroup. The error
message (below) often appears the instant I click to
connect to the workgroup, not even allowing time to look.
Sometimes the laptop will display the 2 PCs in the
workgroup, sometimes it wont.

Heres the strange part. The laptop has full internet
connection through the router and my main PC can find all
the shared drives on the laptop.

Error Message:

"Workgroup is not accesable. you might not have permission
to use this network resouce. contact the administrator of
this server to find out if you have permissions. windows
cannot find a network path. verify that the network path
is correct and the destination computer is not busy or
turned off"

This is what I have done sofar (i'm no expert)

*Changed network cables
*IPConfig was returning the results you would expect for a
working home network
*Ping was also giving the results you would expect form a
working connection
*Re-installed network card drivers
*all winxp updates done
*both machines have indentical full access permissions
*created users on each machine to match login names
* tried allowing auto TCP properties and manual setting up

(once when I specified the IP address I got a connection,
unfortunetly it only lasted for a few mins untill i have
to restart the laptop)

Thanks for any suggestions and let me know if i can give
any more info.

Regards

Ryan

Ryan,

In addition to checking the bridge situation as Luke suggests, let's see what
the browser situation is.

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your
domain / workgroup, at any time.
<http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188305>

You can download Browstat from:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), needs no install, and runs from the command
prompt. Just drop it onto a couple workstations, and run it.

Please provide browstat information from the laptop, and from the main PC.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer also.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Guest]

Please provide browstat information from the laptop, and

from the main PC.

MAIN PC

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F79B7BED-7C8D-4B3E-A95E-BC320FB4A339}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: MAIN
Master browser is running build 2195
1 backup servers retrieved from master MAIN
\\MAIN
There are 2 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F79B7BED-7C8D-4B3E-A95E-BC320FB4A339}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F79B7BED-7C8D-4B3E-A95E-BC320FB4A339}

LAPTOP

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E80B419B-CE70-4B55-BE59-3376D718ACD3}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: MAIN
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to
determine build of browser master: 53
Unable to determine server information for browser
master: 53
1 backup servers retrieved from master MAIN
\\MAIN
Unable to retrieve server list from MAIN: 53

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer

also.

MAIN PC

Windows 2000 IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : main
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139
(A) PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-CE-88-71-
0D

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
194.72.9.38

LAPTOP

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : laptop

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : National
Semiconductor Corp. DP83815/816 10/100 MacPhyter PCI
Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-03-0D-0F-3B-
59

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

194.72.9.38

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 25 June 2004
17:13:33

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 28 June 2004
17:13:33

 

[Ryan]

Sorry, during all that copy/pasting I forgot to say
thanks. =)

 

[Chuck]

Sorry, during all that copy/pasting I forgot to say
thanks. =)

Ryan,

No prob. Glad to help (if I can).

Your problem - or one problem - is definitely your browser. You should have two
browsers - Main would most likely be the master browser, and Laptop the backup.

I have three computers - Cpq450, Dell700, and Dell1600. This is browstat output
from each one (only diff being the {*******}:
Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C5FD0508-3174-4ACE-870A-01D6BB5CED00}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: DELL1600
Master browser is running build 2600
2 backup servers retrieved from master DELL1600
\\DELL700
\\DELL1600
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C5FD0508-3174-4ACE-870A-01D6BB5CED00}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C5FD0508-3174-4ACE-870A-01D6BB5CED00}

Here's some light reading. ;-)
<http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001>
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>

Make sure the browser service is running on Laptop. Control Panel -
Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser service is
started.

Shutdown and restart in this sequence:
1) Shutdown Laptop.
2) Shutdown Main.
3) Start Main.
4) Start Laptop.

Then run browstat on both computers again, and repost.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Ryan]

Brower is turned on on this laptop.

Here is an update. I am at a friend house and plugged
into to his home network and all works fine. All machnies
here running winxp so its either my win2k or my router i
think. or maybe some hardware firewall.

/shrug

 

[Chuck]

Brower is turned on on this laptop.

Here is an update. I am at a friend house and plugged
into to his home network and all works fine. All machnies
here running winxp so its either my win2k or my router i
think. or maybe some hardware firewall.

/shrug

Ryan,

Interesting. Let's see what happens when you reconnect at home.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Ryan]

its still not working. =(

-----Original Message-----
Brower is turned on on this laptop.

Here is an update. I am at a friend house and plugged
into to his home network and all works fine. All machnies
here running winxp so its either my win2k or my router i
think. or maybe some hardware firewall.

/shrug

l a
bad thing.
.

 

[Chuck]

its still not working. =(

OK, Ryan,

Let's try a master browser restart.

1) Turn off Laptop.
2) Turn off Main.
3) Start Main.
4) Start Laptop.

Rerun browstat on both computers, and post results.

Next, you "created users on each machine to match login names". Did you give
the users identical, non-blank passwords? Are you using that account to login
to Laptop?

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Ryan]

Ok. I installed a new protocal on both machines.

NWlink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocal

and it works! Has this fixed the problem or have I just
bypassed it? I don't seem to have any problems on other
peoples networks.

Thanks for all the help.

Ryan

 

[Chuck]

Ok. I installed a new protocal on both machines.

NWlink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocal

and it works! Has this fixed the problem or have I just
bypassed it? I don't seem to have any problems on other
peoples networks.

Thanks for all the help.

Ryan

Ryan,

If that works, then I'm happy for you. Which makes it sound like NBT was not
enabled, or was improperly installed in the first place.

But adding nonstandard protocols simply adds to system complexity. On a
personal use computer with plenty of power, probably won't be noticeable, but I
wouldn't have recommended it.

Still...

If it don't work, hit it.
If it still doesn't work, kick it.
If it works after hitting it and kicking it, then it doesn't matter if
hitting it or kicking it helped, what's important is that it works.

Sorry, not the best munge. Domain 1 DOT com could be used now, or in the
future. Good try tho.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[karma]

Ryan,

In addition to checking the bridge situation as Luke suggests, let's see what
the browser situation is.

The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your
domain / workgroup, at any time.
<http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188305>

You can download Browstat from:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>

Browstat is very small (40K), needs no install, and runs from the command
prompt. Just drop it onto a couple workstations, and run it.

Please provide browstat information from the laptop, and from the main PC.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer also.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

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chuck (mike gould) is full of poop. he is trying to "access" (i.e.)
hack my computer. if you stayed out of there in the first place...you
woldn't be having that problem..CHUCK.

Regards,

Karma

 

[Chuck]

On 26 Jun 2004 11:55:43 -0700, (e-mail address removed) (karma) wrote:

chuck (mike gould) is full of poop. he is trying to "access" (i.e.)
hack my computer. if you stayed out of there in the first place...you
woldn't be having that problem..CHUCK.

Regards,

Karma

K,

If you're going to smoke that stuff before posting, you should learn to share.
As my friends and I used to say, "You can smoke what you bring, but you gotta
share what you bring".

I don't hack people's computers. I try to help them make their computers a
LITTLE resistant to hacking.

Cheers,

Chuck
NOT Mike Gould, dude.