LAN not working

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I have two PC's, both running windows XP Professional. After I setup the LAN
connection on the second PC, restart, and then check "Start" and look for "My
Network Places" it is not there. It is there on the first PC. I have re-setup
this LAN 7 times now but I cannot get the second PC to recognize the first
PC. Any help would surely be appreciated.
 
I have two PC's, both running windows XP Professional. After I setup the LAN
connection on the second PC, restart, and then check "Start" and look for "My
Network Places" it is not there. It is there on the first PC. I have re-setup
this LAN 7 times now but I cannot get the second PC to recognize the first
PC. Any help would surely be appreciated.

Try this: Go to the Local Area Connection Properties and add (Install)
the protocol NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol.
Reboot. Can you see it now? Let me know how it goes.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
 
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JungleJim74 said:
I have two PC's, both running windows XP Professional. After I setup
the LAN connection on the second PC, restart, and then check "Start"
and look for "My Network Places" it is not there. It is there on the
first PC. I have re-setup this LAN 7 times now but I cannot get the
second PC to recognize the first PC. Any help would surely be
appreciated. --

You make no mention at all of your network topology, so things may be more
complicated that it appears. How are the machines connected? Wireless?
Cable? What protocol? Are the addresses static or DHCP assigned? Private or
public addresses?

Lots of questions ... but assuming the simplest setup, you should at the
very least report the results of "route print" and "ipconfig /all" on each
box so that it can be verified that they have the correct configuration.
 
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Thee Chicago Wolf said:
Try this: Go to the Local Area Connection Properties and add (Install)
the protocol NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol.
Reboot. Can you see it now? Let me know how it goes.

I don't think returning to the 1980's would really be that helpful, as the
problem may be as simple as an incorrect netmask.
 
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I don't think returning to the 1980's would really be that helpful, as the
problem may be as simple as an incorrect netmask.

Nice reply. I was guessing that the OP was using Workgroups to connect
and in 99.9% of instances where Workgroup APPEARS to be set up correct
but does NOT work, adding that protocol makes it work.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]
 
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Thee Chicago Wolf said:
Nice reply. I was guessing that the OP was using Workgroups to connect
and in 99.9% of instances where Workgroup APPEARS to be set up correct
but does NOT work, adding that protocol makes it work.

I saw no indication in the OP that "Workgroups" was a component, or that it
"APPEARS" to be anything, but of course they stated nothing about the
network topology. The inability to sense the other computer may be a very
simple thing to solve, but blindly assuming complexities is a tertiary or
quaternary step after the fundamentals of "route print" and "ipconfig /all",
regardless of the so-called "99.9%" that you pulled out of a hat.

The secondary steps are of course to ping the other computer, the router,
the DNS servers and then perform an nslookup on e.g. google.com

Installing additional, obsolete 1980's software components complicates
things before the networking setup fundamentals and functionality are
understood.
 
In news:[email protected],
I saw no indication in the OP that "Workgroups" was a component, or that it
"APPEARS" to be anything, but of course they stated nothing about the
network topology. The inability to sense the other computer may be a very
simple thing to solve, but blindly assuming complexities is a tertiary or
quaternary step after the fundamentals of "route print" and "ipconfig /all",
regardless of the so-called "99.9%" that you pulled out of a hat.

The secondary steps are of course to ping the other computer, the router,
the DNS servers and then perform an nslookup on e.g. google.com

Installing additional, obsolete 1980's software components complicates
things before the networking setup fundamentals and functionality are
understood.

The OP references My Network Places. This, to me, inferred that he
was using workgroups. If he/she was not, they would have likely said
as much. And in ALL the cases where workgroups appeared to be set up
correctly, using the quick and dirty fix of adding the NetBIOS
protocol ALWAYS made machines visible on the network to each other
when I have had to fix what others have broken in multiple attempts to
remedy machines not seeing each other in a workgroup (similar to how
the OP tried multiple times). All I know is it ALWAYS works. I have
tried, forensically, to analyze why a workgroup that appeared to be
set up properly doesn't work after it's been messed with too many
times. It has nothing to do with an 80's protocol. Maybe you've just
wiped someone's machine and started from scratch to fix a problem of
machines not seeing each other in a workgroup, I just add the protocol
and, from personal experience, know it always fixes the problem if
machines cannot see each other on the LAN. The users is obviously NOT
his own domain and does NOT need to NSLOOKUP anything. You obviously
did not read his post. He/she is a home user with a home network.
Ping, fine. Ping tells you if someone is live on the LAN and that's
it. The OP probably see's a vestige of the machine name visible in his
My Network Places and doesn't realize it's a broken pointer to one of
the seven attempts that was half successful at making the machine show
up in My Network Places. He needs to delete that pointer, and the
NWlink protocol, bounce both machines, and they WILL see each other on
next discovery. You gave the OP no solution, just some non-useful
troubleshooting tips. You've obviously never encountered this problem,
I have. I have fixed it every single time using the NWlink protocol. I
don't know how, nor do I care, I just know it works.
 
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Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) said:
The OP references My Network Places. This, to me, inferred that he
was using workgroups.

I belive that.
If he/she was not, they would have likely said as much.

I sincerely doubt that, as the vast majority of M$ users don't know anything
other than what Billy will allow them to pay for.

I've been using networked computers since 1978 before M$ was even thought
about, and the fundamentral TCP/IP diagnostics I mentioned above work
*absolutely* in any modern computer environement since ... you can name the
date. Notice the word "modern" ... my personal opinion is that that means
before you were even born.
 
I saw no indication in the OP that "Workgroups" was a component, or
I belive that.


I sincerely doubt that, as the vast majority of M$ users don't know anything
other than what Billy will allow them to pay for.

I've been using networked computers since 1978 before M$ was even thought
about, and the fundamentral TCP/IP diagnostics I mentioned above work
*absolutely* in any modern computer environement since ... you can name the
date. Notice the word "modern" ... my personal opinion is that that means
before you were even born.

And again, you are wrong on all accounts. There's no need to go any
further since you've done nothing to help the OP but pontificate how
long you've been around to me who could give a rat's posterior because
your inexperience with the issue is evident. I've done my job. Good
bye.
 
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Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) said:
There's no need to go any further since you've done nothing to help the OP
....

If the OP can't follow the simple, most fundamental diagnostics I stated and
report the results for further consideration, then there's nothing that
anybody can do for them.
 
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