keeping menu on all pages

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charles

To all

What is the easiest way of keeping the same menu on all pages in the web
site? I don't like frames as they seem to be going out of style. I could
make a template for every page but then when I change the menu for some
reason I would have to change every page. Can I copy and paste?

charles
 
K

Kevin Spencer

How about using a Dynamic Web Template (DWT)?

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P@tty Ayers

charles said:
To all

What is the easiest way of keeping the same menu on all pages in the web
site? I don't like frames as they seem to be going out of style. I could
make a template for every page but then when I change the menu for some
reason I would have to change every page. Can I copy and paste?

The best way to do this is by using server-side includes. The menu is a
single file which resides on the server, and each of the pages calls this
file, which becomes "included" when the browser serves the page. When you
need to update the menu, you update and upload (publish) that one include
file, and all of the pages using it are automatically updated.

My favorite SSI (server-side includes) tutorial:
http://www.tdscripts.com/ssi.html
 
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p c

Shared borders.

My philosophy:
1. Use top for fancy nav with buttons and bottom for plain text links
and apply border to all pages except home page. Only the major links.
People can drill down from there or go to the home page.

2. Do not use left and right borders because they waste a lot of real
estate screen space. Without them you can maximize space for content.

3. Customize the home page for consistent look and to highlight certain
features and content. For example, in addition to to top and bottom nav
links, I include feature links in left pane and conton and news tidbits
in the right pane.

Recently, with the use of styleshhets, I made the web pages printer
friendly. i.e. when you print the top and bottom nav areas wil not
print. And I only had to change 3 pages: top.htm, bottom.htm and the
stylesheet page.

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M

MD Websunlimited

Or shared border depending upon the version of FP your using.

Also , some folks like to utilize FP Includes.
 
P

p c

Another way if you use javascipt menus, is to use an external javascipt
file (*.js). The problem with that is you viewers will not see the menus
if the browsers disable javascript.

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C

charles

I am using FP 2000

MD Websunlimited said:
Or shared border depending upon the version of FP your using.

Also , some folks like to utilize FP Includes.

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Thomas A. Rowe

Then use either FP Includes or Shared Borders, FYI: FP Include are more flexible then Shared
Borders.

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charles

I just went out and bought FP 2003
CHARLES
Thomas A. Rowe said:
Then use either FP Includes or Shared Borders, FYI: FP Include are more flexible then Shared
Borders.

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Thomas A. Rowe

And you may still find it to your advantage to use FP Includes with Dynamic Web Templates.

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charles

I think I like FP 2003

OK, I like the sound of that but I don't know how to put a small template on
my server and then include that on my web pages.

I am thinking of buying a utility like AllWebMenus to make my menu and would
like to include that on every web page

charles
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Under FP Help (all versions) look for include a page/content into other pages.

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Tom J

charles said:
I think I like FP 2003

OK, I like the sound of that but I don't know how to put a small
template on
my server and then include that on my web pages.

If you'll do just a little study on includes, you'll find it's a huge
time saver and works well for the same item on many pages. I have a
website that has 2 includes at the top - the header and then the menu.
The header has a table of contents for those that can't, or won't, use
the menu. Works great, but one caution. If you use includes and change
the include, you must reload every page that contains the include.

Tom J
 
R

Ronx

If you use includes and change the include, you must reload every
page that contains the include

Not if the server has working FP extensions. With extensions use
publish changed pages only, and only the changed Include files will be
uploaded. The "Processing web updates" part of the publish process
will update all pages on the *server*.

Without FP extensions, then every page containing the include file
will have to be uploaded.
 

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