Keep Frontpage available!

[Guest]

I read that Frontpage will be discontinued in late 2006, and I've been
experimenting with Visual Web Developer Express. My conclusion: I will
continue using FrontPage, due to the following.

Automatic link generation in nav bars due toh hierarchal organization of pages
Themes
The "word processing" mode of data entry
Publish copies changed pages to my server
Ease of replacing graphics to customize a theme
Probably other things I don't recal at the moment.


----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...e21a2da7&dg=microsoft.public.frontpage.client

 

[Tom Willett]

Microsoft Expression: Latest Plans for the future of FrontPage:

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2006/feb06/02-15Designer.mspx
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA101205221033.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/en/web_designer/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/programs/designer/highlights.mspx


Microsoft Expression Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.expression.dicussion
microsoft.public.expression.webdesigner
microsoft.public.expression.interactivedesigner

**Continued support for FrontPage 2003:

Currently, mainstream support will not be retired until 1-13-2009. Extended
support will not be retired until 1-14-2014.
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&p1=2514&x=17&y=10
--------------------------------------------------------------
--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
|I read that Frontpage will be discontinued in late 2006, and I've been
| experimenting with Visual Web Developer Express. My conclusion: I will
| continue using FrontPage, due to the following.
|
| Automatic link generation in nav bars due toh hierarchal organization of
pages
| Themes
| The "word processing" mode of data entry
| Publish copies changed pages to my server
| Ease of replacing graphics to customize a theme
| Probably other things I don't recal at the moment.
|
|
| ----------------
| This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
| suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
| Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
this
| link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
| click "I Agree" in the message pane.
|
|
http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...e21a2da7&dg=microsoft.public.frontpage.client

 

[JCO]

Also, I don't believe you can migrate FP2003 to this new thing.

I read that Frontpage will be discontinued in late 2006, and I've been
experimenting with Visual Web Developer Express. My conclusion: I will
continue using FrontPage, due to the following.

Automatic link generation in nav bars due toh hierarchal organization of pages
Themes
The "word processing" mode of data entry
Publish copies changed pages to my server
Ease of replacing graphics to customize a theme
Probably other things I don't recal at the moment.


----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...e21a2da7&dg=microsoft.public.frontpage.client

 

[Guest]

Just a further comment to elaborate on my first post.

Other features that I really like in FP are included content and photo
galleries. My web sites are non-commercial, information sites, and I like FP
because it allows me to quickly produce new pages and modify existing pages.
That means I can focus on the informational content in the site and not on
the techniques used to produce the pages.

I realize that not many people create they type of sites I do, and I can't
blame Microsoft for moving in a different direction. I was just hoping that
Visual Web Developer would retain the key features that I like in FP. My
server doesn't have FP extensions, so I don't use a lot of the features that
FP does have.

The only support I need from Microsoft is eliminating the "junk" that FP
puts into its code, and unless I find a good replacement I'll probably
continue using FP long after it's "obsolete".

Thanks, Tom, for the links you gave. They were informative.

 

[Guest]

I spent over an hour trying to migrate one page to VWD Express. VWD does
automatic validation when you open a page, and I couldn't go to the design
mode until I cleaned up the errors. Some of the errors were simple to remove,
but some of them were difficult to figure out (I have nested includeed files,
and VWD seemed to get mixed up whether end tags should be there or not. I
finally deleted a couple of end tags just so I could get into the design mode
and see what the page looked like. The text and graphics looked ok, but my
forms were messed up. I couldn't see anything in the menus about creating a
hierarchical layout of the pages and automatic generation of links. Nor could
I see anything about included pages or photo galleries. I realize, of course,
that those features might be there but just not immediately visible to the
user, and if so, I wonder about the simplicity of the user interface....

I maintain 9 sites having 500 or more pages between them, and there is no
way I can spend time tailoring those pages to work with a new program. I
really need transparent portability.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Transitioning from FP to EWD (note: EWD - Expression WEB Designer, NOT VWD)
is nearly a seamless transition from FP.



| Also, I don't believe you can migrate FP2003 to this new thing.
|
| | > I read that Frontpage will be discontinued in late 2006, and I've been
| > experimenting with Visual Web Developer Express. My conclusion: I will
| > continue using FrontPage, due to the following.
| >
| > Automatic link generation in nav bars due toh hierarchal organization of
| pages
| > Themes
| > The "word processing" mode of data entry
| > Publish copies changed pages to my server
| > Ease of replacing graphics to customize a theme
| > Probably other things I don't recal at the moment.
| >
| >
| > ----------------
| > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
| > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
"I
| > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
| this
| > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
then
| > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
| >
| >
|
http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...e21a2da7&dg=microsoft.public.frontpage.client
|
|

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

You tried the wrong program. Try EWD (Expression Web Designer)...NOTE: it is
still BETA.



| Just a further comment to elaborate on my first post.
|
| Other features that I really like in FP are included content and photo
| galleries. My web sites are non-commercial, information sites, and I like
FP
| because it allows me to quickly produce new pages and modify existing
pages.
| That means I can focus on the informational content in the site and not on
| the techniques used to produce the pages.
|
| I realize that not many people create they type of sites I do, and I can't
| blame Microsoft for moving in a different direction. I was just hoping
that
| Visual Web Developer would retain the key features that I like in FP. My
| server doesn't have FP extensions, so I don't use a lot of the features
that
| FP does have.
|
| The only support I need from Microsoft is eliminating the "junk" that FP
| puts into its code, and unless I find a good replacement I'll probably
| continue using FP long after it's "obsolete".
|
| Thanks, Tom, for the links you gave. They were informative.
|

 

[Trevor L.]

You tried the wrong program. Try EWD (Expression Web
Designer)...NOTE: it is still BETA.

Rob,

Re this thread and others on similar topics.

Is EWD Beta available from the Microsoft Download Center or do I have to go
somewere else?

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Try this; https://connect.microsoft.com/site/sitehome.aspx?SiteID=134

You have to sign-up for it.
You'll like it...but remember it's BETA.


| Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
| > You tried the wrong program. Try EWD (Expression Web
| > Designer)...NOTE: it is still BETA.
|
| Rob,
|
| Re this thread and others on similar topics.
|
| Is EWD Beta available from the Microsoft Download Center or do I have to
go
| somewere else?
|
| --
| Cheers,
| Trevor L.
| Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
|
|

 

[Guest]

Thanks, Rob, I really did have the wrong program! I've tried EWD, and it is
like FP with up-to-date features. Everything that I wanted is there except
for one thing; I haven't figured out how to format themes and apply a theme
to a page. The link properties use themes for graphical links, and I can
change the theme used by a link, so EWD does know about themes. It was so
easy in FP 2003 to modify themes with my graphics and to change the theme
used on a page. Guess it's time to find the EWD forum and search for a
discussion of themes.

Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread!

 

[Tom Willett]

If you have used include pages in your webs, EWD will not support them. For
those of use who make extensive use of includes, this will be a major
problem.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

It does support includes (at the moment), but the discussion was; was it
going to continue to support them when it's released.


| If you have used include pages in your webs, EWD will not support them.
For
| those of use who make extensive use of includes, this will be a major
| problem.
| --
| Tom Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| ----------
| | > Transitioning from FP to EWD (note: EWD - Expression WEB Designer, NOT
| > VWD)
| > is nearly a seamless transition from FP.
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | Also, I don't believe you can migrate FP2003 to this new thing.
| > |
| > | | > | > I read that Frontpage will be discontinued in late 2006, and I've
been
| > | > experimenting with Visual Web Developer Express. My conclusion: I
will
| > | > continue using FrontPage, due to the following.
| > | >
| > | > Automatic link generation in nav bars due toh hierarchal
organization
| > of
| > | pages
| > | > Themes
| > | > The "word processing" mode of data entry
| > | > Publish copies changed pages to my server
| > | > Ease of replacing graphics to customize a theme
| > | > Probably other things I don't recal at the moment.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > ----------------
| > | > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
the
| > | > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
| > the
| > "I
| > | > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
| > follow
| > | this
| > | > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
and
| > then
| > | > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...e21a2da7&dg=microsoft.public.frontpage.client
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Themes are going away. I believe it supports them if they are already there.
You don't want themes anyway.

primary ng: microsoft.public.expression.webdesigner



| Thanks, Rob, I really did have the wrong program! I've tried EWD, and it
is
| like FP with up-to-date features. Everything that I wanted is there except
| for one thing; I haven't figured out how to format themes and apply a
theme
| to a page. The link properties use themes for graphical links, and I can
| change the theme used by a link, so EWD does know about themes. It was so
| easy in FP 2003 to modify themes with my graphics and to change the theme
| used on a page. Guess it's time to find the EWD forum and search for a
| discussion of themes.
|
| Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread!
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > You tried the wrong program. Try EWD (Expression Web Designer)...NOTE:
it is
| > still BETA.
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | Just a further comment to elaborate on my first post.
| > |
| > | Other features that I really like in FP are included content and photo
| > | galleries. My web sites are non-commercial, information sites, and I
like
| > FP
| > | because it allows me to quickly produce new pages and modify existing
| > pages.
| > | That means I can focus on the informational content in the site and
not on
| > | the techniques used to produce the pages.
| > |
| > | I realize that not many people create they type of sites I do, and I
can't
| > | blame Microsoft for moving in a different direction. I was just hoping
| > that
| > | Visual Web Developer would retain the key features that I like in FP.
My
| > | server doesn't have FP extensions, so I don't use a lot of the
features
| > that
| > | FP does have.
| > |
| > | The only support I need from Microsoft is eliminating the "junk" that
FP
| > | puts into its code, and unless I find a good replacement I'll probably
| > | continue using FP long after it's "obsolete".
| > |
| > | Thanks, Tom, for the links you gave. They were informative.
| > |
| >
| >
| >

 

[Tom Willett]

It will show your current includes, but not allow you to change them or add
new ones.
--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
| It does support includes (at the moment), but the discussion was; was it
| going to continue to support them when it's released.
|
|
| || If you have used include pages in your webs, EWD will not support them.
| For
|| those of use who make extensive use of includes, this will be a major
|| problem.
|| --
|| Tom Willett
|| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
|| FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
|| ----------
|| || > Transitioning from FP to EWD (note: EWD - Expression WEB Designer, NOT
|| > VWD)
|| > is nearly a seamless transition from FP.
|| >
|| >
|| >
|| > || > | Also, I don't believe you can migrate FP2003 to this new thing.
|| > |
|| > | || > | > I read that Frontpage will be discontinued in late 2006, and I've
| been
|| > | > experimenting with Visual Web Developer Express. My conclusion: I
| will
|| > | > continue using FrontPage, due to the following.
|| > | >
|| > | > Automatic link generation in nav bars due toh hierarchal
| organization
|| > of
|| > | pages
|| > | > Themes
|| > | > The "word processing" mode of data entry
|| > | > Publish copies changed pages to my server
|| > | > Ease of replacing graphics to customize a theme
|| > | > Probably other things I don't recal at the moment.
|| > | >
|| > | >
|| > | > ----------------
|| > | > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
| the
|| > | > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
|| > the
|| > "I
|| > | > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
|| > follow
|| > | this
|| > | > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
| and
|| > then
|| > | > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
|| > | >
|| > | >
|| > |
|| >
|
http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...e21a2da7&dg=microsoft.public.frontpage.client
|| > |
|| > |
|| >
|| >
||
||
|
|

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

I know. But, I just added a new one...within one of the EWD templates and it
works fine.


| It will show your current includes, but not allow you to change them or
add
| new ones.
| --
| ===
| Tom Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| ---
| FrontPage Support:
| http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| ===
| || It does support includes (at the moment), but the discussion was; was it
|| going to continue to support them when it's released.
||
||
|| ||| If you have used include pages in your webs, EWD will not support them.
|| For
||| those of use who make extensive use of includes, this will be a major
||| problem.
||| --
||| Tom Willett
||| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
||| FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
||| ----------
message
||| ||| > Transitioning from FP to EWD (note: EWD - Expression WEB Designer, NOT
||| > VWD)
||| > is nearly a seamless transition from FP.
||| >
||| >
||| >
||| > ||| > | Also, I don't believe you can migrate FP2003 to this new thing.
||| > |
||| > | ||| > | > I read that Frontpage will be discontinued in late 2006, and I've
|| been
||| > | > experimenting with Visual Web Developer Express. My conclusion: I
|| will
||| > | > continue using FrontPage, due to the following.
||| > | >
||| > | > Automatic link generation in nav bars due toh hierarchal
|| organization
||| > of
||| > | pages
||| > | > Themes
||| > | > The "word processing" mode of data entry
||| > | > Publish copies changed pages to my server
||| > | > Ease of replacing graphics to customize a theme
||| > | > Probably other things I don't recal at the moment.
||| > | >
||| > | >
||| > | > ----------------
||| > | > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
|| the
||| > | > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
click
||| > the
||| > "I
||| > | > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
||| > follow
||| > | this
||| > | > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
|| and
||| > then
||| > | > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
||| > | >
||| > | >
||| > |
||| >
||
|
http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...e21a2da7&dg=microsoft.public.frontpage.client
||| > |
||| > |
||| >
||| >
|||
|||
||
||
|
|

 

[Tom Willett]

I need to be able to work with current ones, which are used extensively on
all of our different web sites.
--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
|I know. But, I just added a new one...within one of the EWD templates and
it
| works fine.
|
|
| || It will show your current includes, but not allow you to change them or
| add
|| new ones.
|| --
|| ===
|| Tom Willett
|| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
|| ---
|| FrontPage Support:
|| http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
|| ===
|| ||| It does support includes (at the moment), but the discussion was; was it
||| going to continue to support them when it's released.
|||
|||
||| |||| If you have used include pages in your webs, EWD will not support them.
||| For
|||| those of use who make extensive use of includes, this will be a major
|||| problem.
|||| --
|||| Tom Willett
|||| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
|||| FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
|||| ----------
| message
|||| |||| > Transitioning from FP to EWD (note: EWD - Expression WEB Designer,
NOT
|||| > VWD)
|||| > is nearly a seamless transition from FP.
|||| >
|||| >
|||| >
|||| > |||| > | Also, I don't believe you can migrate FP2003 to this new thing.
|||| > |
|||| > | |||| > | > I read that Frontpage will be discontinued in late 2006, and I've
||| been
|||| > | > experimenting with Visual Web Developer Express. My conclusion: I
||| will
|||| > | > continue using FrontPage, due to the following.
|||| > | >
|||| > | > Automatic link generation in nav bars due toh hierarchal
||| organization
|||| > of
|||| > | pages
|||| > | > Themes
|||| > | > The "word processing" mode of data entry
|||| > | > Publish copies changed pages to my server
|||| > | > Ease of replacing graphics to customize a theme
|||| > | > Probably other things I don't recal at the moment.
|||| > | >
|||| > | >
|||| > | > ----------------
|||| > | > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
to
||| the
|||| > | > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
| click
|||| > the
|||| > "I
|||| > | > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
|||| > follow
|||| > | this
|||| > | > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
||| and
|||| > then
|||| > | > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
|||| > | >
|||| > | >
|||| > |
|||| >
|||
||
|
http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...e21a2da7&dg=microsoft.public.frontpage.client
|||| > |
|||| > |
|||| >
|||| >
||||
||||
|||
|||
||
||
|
|

 

[Guest]

If themes are going away, I guess I'd better find out what I do want

I have 5 family-history sites, two religious sites, one political site, and
one running site. I don't want to spend much if any time creating graphics
for my sites. The themes provided by Microsof were bad, but there are some
pretty good 3rd-party themes. FP allows me to have multiple themes per site,
and I have a different theme for each branch of my family tree.

 

[Guest]

Hmmm... I did notice last night in one of the menus a link for included
pages. I didn't try it because I assumed it was the same as in FP. My main
use for included pages is in creating contact info, copyright info, and text
links at the bottom of the pages.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

I haven't tried it on an FP create web yet.


|I need to be able to work with current ones, which are used extensively on
| all of our different web sites.
| --
| ===
| Tom Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| ---
| FrontPage Support:
| http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| ===
| ||I know. But, I just added a new one...within one of the EWD templates and
| it
|| works fine.
||
||
|| ||| It will show your current includes, but not allow you to change them or
|| add
||| new ones.
||| --
||| ===
||| Tom Willett
||| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
||| ---
||| FrontPage Support:
||| http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
||| ===
message
||| |||| It does support includes (at the moment), but the discussion was; was
it
|||| going to continue to support them when it's released.
||||
||||
|||| ||||| If you have used include pages in your webs, EWD will not support
them.
|||| For
||||| those of use who make extensive use of includes, this will be a major
||||| problem.
||||| --
||||| Tom Willett
||||| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
||||| FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
||||| ----------
|| message
||||| ||||| > Transitioning from FP to EWD (note: EWD - Expression WEB Designer,
| NOT
||||| > VWD)
||||| > is nearly a seamless transition from FP.
||||| >
||||| >
||||| >
||||| > ||||| > | Also, I don't believe you can migrate FP2003 to this new thing.
||||| > |
||||| > | ||||| > | > I read that Frontpage will be discontinued in late 2006, and
I've
|||| been
||||| > | > experimenting with Visual Web Developer Express. My conclusion:
I
|||| will
||||| > | > continue using FrontPage, due to the following.
||||| > | >
||||| > | > Automatic link generation in nav bars due toh hierarchal
|||| organization
||||| > of
||||| > | pages
||||| > | > Themes
||||| > | > The "word processing" mode of data entry
||||| > | > Publish copies changed pages to my server
||||| > | > Ease of replacing graphics to customize a theme
||||| > | > Probably other things I don't recal at the moment.
||||| > | >
||||| > | >
||||| > | > ----------------
||||| > | > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds
| to
|||| the
||||| > | > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
|| click
||||| > the
||||| > "I
||||| > | > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
||||| > follow
||||| > | this
||||| > | > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based
Newsreader
|||| and
||||| > then
||||| > | > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
||||| > | >
||||| > | >
||||| > |
||||| >
||||
|||
||
|
http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...e21a2da7&dg=microsoft.public.frontpage.client
||||| > |
||||| > |
||||| >
||||| >
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[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Themes are restrictive since you can't use more than one. You could try
DWTs - I'm still messin' around with them so dunno too much yet.


| If themes are going away, I guess I'd better find out what I do want
|
| I have 5 family-history sites, two religious sites, one political site,
and
| one running site. I don't want to spend much if any time creating graphics
| for my sites. The themes provided by Microsof were bad, but there are some
| pretty good 3rd-party themes. FP allows me to have multiple themes per
site,
| and I have a different theme for each branch of my family tree.
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > Themes are going away. I believe it supports them if they are already
there.
| > You don't want themes anyway.
| >
| > primary ng: microsoft.public.expression.webdesigner
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | Thanks, Rob, I really did have the wrong program! I've tried EWD, and
it
| > is
| > | like FP with up-to-date features. Everything that I wanted is there
except
| > | for one thing; I haven't figured out how to format themes and apply a
| > theme
| > | to a page. The link properties use themes for graphical links, and I
can
| > | change the theme used by a link, so EWD does know about themes. It was
so
| > | easy in FP 2003 to modify themes with my graphics and to change the
theme
| > | used on a page. Guess it's time to find the EWD forum and search for a
| > | discussion of themes.
| > |
| > | Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread!
| > |
| > | "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
| > |
| > | > You tried the wrong program. Try EWD (Expression Web
Designer)...NOTE:
| > it is
| > | > still BETA.
| > | >
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| > | > | > | > | Just a further comment to elaborate on my first post.
| > | > |
| > | > | Other features that I really like in FP are included content and
photo
| > | > | galleries. My web sites are non-commercial, information sites, and
I
| > like
| > | > FP
| > | > | because it allows me to quickly produce new pages and modify
existing
| > | > pages.
| > | > | That means I can focus on the informational content in the site
and
| > not on
| > | > | the techniques used to produce the pages.
| > | > |
| > | > | I realize that not many people create they type of sites I do, and
I
| > can't
| > | > | blame Microsoft for moving in a different direction. I was just
hoping
| > | > that
| > | > | Visual Web Developer would retain the key features that I like in
FP.
| > My
| > | > | server doesn't have FP extensions, so I don't use a lot of the
| > features
| > | > that
| > | > | FP does have.
| > | > |
| > | > | The only support I need from Microsoft is eliminating the "junk"
that
| > FP
| > | > | puts into its code, and unless I find a good replacement I'll
probably
| > | > | continue using FP long after it's "obsolete".
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks, Tom, for the links you gave. They were informative.
| > | > |
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