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Jeff T
Is JV16powertools worth buying?
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Zo
After serious thinking Jeff T wrote :
The best one,imo,is the last freeware version:
http://www.oldapps.com/jv16pt.php
The newer versions, are the do it all snake oil type, if you're into
that type of app though, then I would seriously give Wise Disk Cleaner
Free a look; installer or portable version available.
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/wisediskcleaner.html
The best one,imo,is the last freeware version:
http://www.oldapps.com/jv16pt.php
The newer versions, are the do it all snake oil type, if you're into
that type of app though, then I would seriously give Wise Disk Cleaner
Free a look; installer or portable version available.
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/wisediskcleaner.html
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Ken Blake, MVP
Not only is it not worth buying, I would strongly recommend against it
even if it were free.
Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.
Read
http://www.howtogeek.com/171633/why-using-a-registry-cleaner-wont-speed-up-your-pc-or-fix-crashes/
and also
http://blogs.technet.com/markrussin.../02/registry-junk-a-windows-fact-of-life.aspx
You also might want to read the section on the CCleaner Registry
Cleaner here:
http://www.howtogeek.com/113382/how-to-use-ccleaner-like-a-pro-9-tips-tricks/
Let me point out that neither I nor anyone else who warns against the
use of registry cleaners has ever said that they always cause
problems. If they always caused problems, they would disappear from
the market almost immediately. Many people have used a registry
cleaner and never had a problem with it.
Rather, the problem with a registry cleaner is that it carries with it
the substantial *risk* of having a problem. And since there is no
benefit to using a registry cleaner, running that risk is a very bad
bargain.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Ken Blake said:
Not 100% true, though _in practice_ probably over 95% so.
Probably about 99.5% true.
No _measurable_ benefit, for _most_ people.
The reason people like Ken, Bill, and so on come out with this reflex
vitriol whenever anyone so much as mentions registry cleaners is that
they can, indeed, do substantial harm, not always immediately obvious,
and which - especially if it is much later - can be the devil to fix,
and they - experts like Ken and Bill - rather resent (understandably, as
would I) having to fix them (since the user probably can't).
Now, to give Jeff T a better answer: I notice that the name
"JV16powertools" contains an s. Assuming that means it offers more than
just a registry cleaner, are the other things it offers (a) any good (b)
any better than the free alternatives (Sysinternals, Powertoys, etc.)?
(One of Ken's links I snipped ended
"how-to-use-ccleaner-like-a-pro-9-tips-tricks"; I've seen a mostly
positive attitude to CCleaner, apart from its registry cleaning aspect,
and wondered if there might be something similar to be said for JV16. (I
remember the name of JV16 from years ago; I don't have it on here, but
can't remember why - probably I found other things that do what it did
better, but it's probably still worth discussing JV16 in the same way
CCleaner gets discussed, rather than under the red mist that regcleaners
generates.)
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casey.o
I've been using "Reg Seeker" in Win98 for many years. It makes a list
of errors and unused entries. They are color coded Red or Green. The
red ones CAN be dangerous to remove, the green ones are safe. The green
ones are usually leftovers from removed programs and even files that
once existed in the TEMP folder. You can set it to clean everything
automatically, but I dont do that. I do it one by one. Any reference
to something deleted, I know is worthless and remove it. I also remove
the unused file type extensions. For example, there is always a .NOT
for notepad. Dont ask me why, there is no such extension. But I dont
remove most of the red ones.
Anyhow, I've never had problems with that program.
I dont know if they make an XP version of it??????
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Ken Blake, MVP
We are half a percentage point apart. That's close enough to complete
agreement for me.
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Ken Blake, MVP
Then you've been lucky. Reread the last two paragraphs of my message.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]Bill in Co said:Addendum:
I gather no one has documented any "measureable benefit", it seems.
And _I_ gather that no-one else has seen to answer Jeff's question
beyond the registry cleaning aspects, if any. (See "red mist" below.)
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
I can live with doubt, and uncertainty, and not knowing. I think it's much
more *interesting* to live not knowing than to have answers which might be
wrong. - Richard Feynman, in 1981 Horizon interview