Justification between MCSE or Linux certification

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I don't believe you've actually done anything with Linux, nothing more
than playing with it, or you would not make a statement like the above.

It doesn't matter what you've found in your home or read on some block,
until you've installed it in a real network environment at an office,
you can't possibly know.

Linux is faster without the GUI, but it's not any different once you are
at the desktop with the GUI.
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Well we can keep this up forever I guess. But, you're plain wrong! My Linux
box has a mysql server, apache server, nfs and samba servers, mail server
and many other services running and is very responsive. Another computer I
have with newer and faster hardware running XP doesn't have nearly the
services running, yet is in all respects slower in the GUI, including as I
pointed out the TCP/IP stack (by half). On my Linux box I have no problem
ripping a DVD while at the same time doing dozens of other things with no
significant decrease in speed. On Windoze, one just can't do that. That's
why people are always looking to upgrade their hardware in the hopes of
trying to get some sort of speed out of Windoze.


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Well we can keep this up forever I guess. But, you're plain wrong! My Linux
box has a mysql server, apache server, nfs and samba servers, mail server
and many other services running and is very responsive. Another computer I
have with newer and faster hardware running XP doesn't have nearly the
services running, yet is in all respects slower in the GUI, including as I
pointed out the TCP/IP stack (by half). On my Linux box I have no problem
ripping a DVD while at the same time doing dozens of other things with no
significant decrease in speed. On Windoze, one just can't do that. That's
why people are always looking to upgrade their hardware in the hopes of
trying to get some sort of speed out of Windoze.
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Yes, we could, and we'll never agree. As an example, I can burn DVD's on
my laptop, while running Windows 2003 On it (or Windows XP) while using
MS SQL 2000 or 2005, while serving web pages in .net, while also being
VNC'd into two other machines, while reading Usenet.... It's all about
configuration. Oh, and listening to WinAmp, while also running this
little webcam, and have my AV software not-disabled.... I can do more on
a desktop, but this was just a lowly laptop.

In my experience, with same hardware in 4 machines (and this was just a
test setup), there was no difference between "user desktop" experience
in Win XP or Fedora Core 4/5, and Fedora actually took longer to install
and setup than Windows XP did.
 
Leythos said:
Yes, we could, and we'll never agree. As an example, I can burn DVD's
on my laptop, while running Windows 2003 On it (or Windows XP) while
using MS SQL 2000 or 2005, while serving web pages in .net, while
also being VNC'd into two other machines, while reading Usenet....
It's all about configuration. Oh, and listening to WinAmp, while also
running this little webcam, and have my AV software not-disabled....
I can do more on a desktop, but this was just a lowly laptop.

In my experience, with same hardware in 4 machines (and this was just
a test setup), there was no difference between "user desktop"
experience in Win XP or Fedora Core 4/5, and Fedora actually took
longer to install and setup than Windows XP did.
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I have to agree. Some systems Linux runs faster, some Windows, doesn't seem
to be any ryhme or reason. Generally most GUI's seem to run about the same
speed on well configured systems regardless of OS. If anything XP runs
faster with limited ram than current gnome implementations. I also agree
that FC 5 does seem to have an unusually long install.
 
Kerry said:
I have to agree. Some systems Linux runs faster, some Windows, doesn't seem
to be any ryhme or reason.
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Depends on the hardware, distro and choice of GUI in my experience.
Generally most GUI's seem to run about the same
speed on well configured systems regardless of OS. If anything XP runs
faster with limited ram than current gnome implementations.
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That's because Gnome sucks, IMO. KDE is very fast on a healthy box.
I also agree
that FC 5 does seem to have an unusually long install.
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Depends on how many services, utils and apps you choose install. If you
installed all the equivalent software on a Win box that are available in
FC 5 it would take longer than the FC 5 install.

Steve N.
 
Steve N. wrote:

Depends on the hardware, distro and choice of GUI in my experience.
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Same distro and install options (FC5). On a laptop with minimal hardware XP
runs much faster. Same versions of XP and FC5 on a high end desktop Linux is
faster. That's just with my current installs. In the past I've noticed
different results.
That's because Gnome sucks, IMO. KDE is very fast on a healthy box.
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KDE is faster but still slower than XP on minimal hardware. I prefer the
look of gnome. To each his own :-)
Depends on how many services, utils and apps you choose install. If
you installed all the equivalent software on a Win box that are
available in FC 5 it would take longer than the FC 5 install.
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Basic install with default options for a desktop. FC5 was way longer to
install than Suse or FC4.
 
kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys- said:
KDE is faster but still slower than XP on minimal hardware. I prefer the
look of gnome. To each his own :-)


Basic install with default options for a desktop. FC5 was way longer to
install than Suse or FC4.
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Your experience mimics mine, and I actually setup a test bench with
several matching (hardware) computers, P2, P3, P4, Dual Xeon, and then
installed Mandrake 10, SUSE, Fedora and something else I can remember.
Fedora was the only one of them where all selected items installed
properly and without additional work, that detected all the hardware and
configured it properly, and that seemed to offer all that a typical
home/small office user would need. Installing, initial, was a little
longer than XP, but the updates killed me - several hours to download
all the updates and install them...
 
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