Is vista worth it?

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Funny, that's what I thought from the first beta to the final release.
I kept expecting to actually see some improvements.
Instead, they rearranged the furniture (I still don't know why they put the
beds on the porch & the toilet in the kitchen), knocked holes in the walls
(and covered them up with thick, fancily painted plywood slabs) and called
it 'new & improved'.
The plywood may make the wall stronger, but it sure doesn't make the house
more liveable!
And remind me again why the gas pedal & brake were reversed?
 
Hi James:

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James David Byrne said:
I was just thinking to myself as I read this thread... "upgraded" to Vista?
Nope.... NOT an upgrade.. I had Vista forced on me because an original PC


A 'clean install is better than an 'upgrade' install. But I think you are
talking a bit more metaphorically.

failed in warranty and the replacement was now only supplied with Vista.
What a mess! I grant that there are some nice bells and whistles and the
added underlying security is a great advance, but was there really any
need


True. There's been a big advance in security with Vista. Apparently it is
not uncompromisable, but it makes it a lot more difficult for the hacker
criminal to compromise.

to destroy the tried and tested familiar UI of, say, XP for the
unintuitive and muddled mess that is Vista?


Times change .. the new model is out. It's not a muddled mess .. it's
actually quite good. I've found that it has sped up my work in that I find
traversing folders [which I do a lot of] much quicker with the breadcrumb
bar.

Dialogs that were simple, useful and obvious in XP (and earlier versions)
are now a convoluted and obscure mess. Who on


Hmm .. I don't get you here. The dialogues of Vista usually make sense.
Maybe you've just gotten used to the XP ones?

earth 'designed' the ghastly Start Menu arrangement?


Hey, what's so bad? It works as both an search and Run combined. In default
mode it doesn't have expanding menus .. instead they drill .. but I don't
mind that .. Classic is available if you must have expanding menus.

The fast, attractive and easy to use XP user menus are now a dull and
awkward shambles and I have yet to discover how to customise them for each
user. They don't seem to be in the profile...


You just need to go to the right folders. There's two as was in XP .. a
global folder and a personal folder.

There are little snags and problems like this one, daily and it is wasting
a lot of my time sorting them out.

One gets the impression that many familiar features from XP have now been
chucked in as an afterthought, and many things seem to be missing
altogether. It's horrible! On the same (latest) hardware it's also
distinctly slower.


I've noticed no slow-down. But there is the issue of USB running at level
1.1 that some people have had with a few USB devices. They have to manually
set the USB to 2.0. I've not has that happen yet and I have 5 USB devices
and one Firewire device connect to my computer right now.

I really think MS have missed the mark bigtime is releasing this version.
Aero and the sidebar could have been implemented without redesigning all
the dialogs! Even the useful and simple WLAN icon is now useless.. one has
to click through dialogs just to see the signal strength! Why change it
from the way it was before?


Things change .. get used to it. Some things seem more ready .. others are
given a little less emphasis [although usually one can drag a shortcut and
make it ready]. C'est la vie.

I wonder how much it will cost businesses worldwide in lost time as staff
struggle with Vista. No company IT director with any sense would try to
implement Vista as it is now.


Businesses are switching to Vista faster than any OS before. Vista saves
businesses money. It's easier to work with and find things. And it is much
more resiliant to compromise both directly and by social engineering. This
means fewer leaks for business, less downtime and so on .. which saves them
a lot of money and heartache.

I won't even go into the driver issue.. I have bugs and niggles all over
the shop, all driver related. I could in all honesty never recommend Vista
as it is now. Stay with XP or Win2000! Vista is a classic example of what
happens when "change for change's sake" occurs.


Vista is not change for change's sake. It is a much needed improved security
model among many things. Businesses need the security and parents need the
parental controls.

Having been a Windows user ever since the old 286 days, every release was
a major step forward, culminating in XP. This is the first step backwards!
and


I think you foregt how things were with XP. Seems like most everyone was
screaming how it was a step backwards from Windows 2000. Some people even
claimed it was a step backwards from Windows 98. So what? XP went on to
become a very good system for those who take the least bit interest in their
systems. Vista greatly improves on that, in that even those who take no
interest are better protected.

the first time that, within minutes of using it, I thought wooaaah...
what's wrong here?... this isn't good... that's horrible.... where on
earth has--- gone?... why doesn't that work as expected... and so on.


I hope it works out well for you. I think, in not too long a time, the
driver situation will settle down and that you will 'get the hang of it'
where Vista is concerned. I really do find working with files and folders
better here.



JMHO too,
Saucy
 
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darksied.ben said:
Is it worth upgradeing to vista?
Ignore the Linux and Luddite trolls. All the computers here have been
upgraded to Vista and we are satisfied with the results. We've upgraded
some mid-level business type computers, laptops and one high-end gaming
machine. We've used Vista Home Basic, Vista Home Premium (both 32-bit)
and Vista Ultimate 64-bit.

Only one piece of software proved incompatible, but since Vista provided
the same functionality, natively, the old software was no longer needed.

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I ran Vista Ultimate for 2 months, went back to XP for 2 days, and am now
running Vista again. It's a little slower than XP, but I like it better than
XP. I'm running it on a Dell 9300 notebook with 2 Gigs of RAM and having no
problems.
 
David said:
I ran Vista Ultimate for 2 months, went back to XP for 2 days, and am
now running Vista again. It's a little slower than XP, but I like it
better than XP. I'm running it on a Dell 9300 notebook with 2 Gigs of
RAM and having no problems.

OK, so is it worth what you paid for it?

Alias
 
Alias said:
OK, so is it worth what you paid for it?

Alias


In my case about £120 which is not a lot of money, so yes, it was worth it
imo for me.
I actually find Vista Explorer faster than XP & I have no problems with
Vista in any way.
 
David said:
I ran Vista Ultimate for 2 months, went back to XP for 2 days, and am now
running Vista again. It's a little slower than XP, but I like it better than
XP. I'm running it on a Dell 9300 notebook with 2 Gigs of RAM and having no
problems.

Any new MS OS need more RAM and CPU power to run at least the same speed
of the previous MS OS. This is just a natural thing regarding MS OS's.
 
Julie Smith said:
A question alias, are you ubuntu's marketing department? Cause I think they
need to hire someone else... You do a pretty bad job.

I agree, he likes to tell people to switch but whenever someone has a
problem with it he calls them a liar and claims they never installed it.
Then he implies they are dumber then an 8 year old.

Horrible sales guy!
 
Justin said:
I agree, he likes to tell people to switch but whenever someone has a
problem with it he calls them a liar and claims they never installed it.
Then he implies they are dumber then an 8 year old.

No, Justin, that's you and only you.
Horrible sales guy!

No one could sell Ubuntu to you, not even the best salesperson in the world.

Alias
 
Alias said:
No, Justin, that's you and only you.

No, it's been many people. Not the 8 year old part, but many people with
everything else.
No one could sell Ubuntu to you, not even the best salesperson in the
world.

You're damn right. Pointless garbage. Give me a real server grade distro
then we'll talk about very SPECIFIC application needs.
 
Justin said:
No, it's been many people. Not the 8 year old part, but many people
with everything else.

We were talking about the 8 year old part, Justy Wusty.
You're damn right. Pointless garbage. Give me a real server grade
distro then we'll talk about very SPECIFIC application needs.

Unfortunately, talking to you is about as constructive as talking to a
baboon.

Alias
 
Alias said:
We were talking about the 8 year old part, Justy Wusty.

"WE" weren't talking about anything. "I" was talking about everything.

Can you gotten a clue yet?
Unfortunately, talking to you is about as constructive as talking to a
baboon.

Did you get a clue yet? Here it is again:

You're damn right. Pointless garbage. Give me a real server grade distro
then we'll talk about very SPECIFIC application needs.
 
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