Is there anyway to get a downgrade version of XP when you have Vis

[Autumnale]

I was just wondering... Is there anyway to get a downgrade version of XP
when you've purchased Vista Home Premium?

I'm getting awful frames per second in Vista, and I remember getting at
least 50 more frames per second in XP Pro.

 

[Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]]

No, please see the following article:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...cbd-699b0c164182/royaltyoemreferencesheet.pdf

You will have do a clean install of Windows XP, if don't own an XP license
for that machine, you will have buy a new one.

 

[Malke]

I was just wondering... Is there anyway to get a downgrade version of XP
when you've purchased Vista Home Premium?

I'm getting awful frames per second in Vista, and I remember getting at
least 50 more frames per second in XP Pro.

It depends on how you installed Vista. If you bought a retail copy of
Vista and installed it yourself, then there are no downgrade rights and
you have to go to the store and buy a copy of XP. If this is an OEM
machine (HP, Dell, Sony etc.), see the following "guidelet" I wrote
which may help you:

You need to do some things first:

1. Go to the OEM's website and look for XP drivers for your specific
model computer. If there are no XP drivers, then you can't install XP.
End of story.

2. Check with the OEM - either from their tech support website or by
calling them - to see if you will void your warranty if you do this. If
you will void the warranty, you make the decision.

3. If the OEM does support XP on the machine, call them and see if you
can have downgrade rights and have them send you an XP restore disk.
This will be far the easiest and best way of getting XP on the machine.

4. If XP is supported on the machine but the OEM doesn't have an XP
restore disk for you, understand that you'll need to purchase a retail
copy of XP from your favorite online or brick/mortar store.

5. Also understand that you will need to do a clean install of XP so if
you have any data you want, back it up first.

6. If none of the above is applicable to you because you can't run XP on
that machine (see Item #1 above), return the computer and purchase one
running XP instead.

http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Reinstalling_Windows -
What you will need on-hand


Malke

 

[non flammable on XP]

normally they let only ultimate and enterpise (I think and ) business to
have degrade rights

 

[Autumnale]

Yeah, I bought a retail version of Windows Vista Home Premium. So I can't
just buy a copy of Windows XP Professional Upgrade and install XP from that?
I mean Windows Vista is still just a version of windows right? I don't see
why you can't "upgrade" to XP from Vista other than the horribly bad
publicity it would be for Microsoft.

I really wouldn't care if DirectX 9c in Vista wasn't so gosh darn awful.

I mean I really like Vista. It's very pretty and Media Center is just
great, but the frames per second I get in games is just ridiculous.

 

[~Alex~.:MVP Windows Shell/User:.]

No you can not buy a UPGRADE Version of XP and install from that. You would
need a Windows 2000 Disc or below to accomplish this task. You need a full
XP Pro disc in order to install a fresh copy of XP.

Upgrade is just that. A upgrade. You can not use a upgrade disc to install
fresh from a formatted drive. That is the limitation of a upgrade disc. So
get a full disc and install away.

 

[Autumnale]

Blah. See that's why I was wondering if you can get a "downgrade" XP CD. It
looks like you can downgrade if you have Vista Ultimate or Vista Business.
Or maybe it's just OEM Vista Ultimate and OEM Vista Business. I wonder if
you can get the downgrade CD with Vista Ultimate retail.

I think it would be supremely funny if I have to buy a retail Vista Ultimate
upgrade key to "upgrade" my Vista Home Premium just so I can downgrade to
Windows XP Professional.

I'm sure Apple would totally publicize that...

I think I'll read the info more carefully and see if the downgrade thing
will work with Vista Ultimate upgrade retail.

 

[Malke]

Blah. See that's why I was wondering if you can get a "downgrade" XP CD. It
looks like you can downgrade if you have Vista Ultimate or Vista Business.
Or maybe it's just OEM Vista Ultimate and OEM Vista Business. I wonder if
you can get the downgrade CD with Vista Ultimate retail.

I think it would be supremely funny if I have to buy a retail Vista Ultimate
upgrade key to "upgrade" my Vista Home Premium just so I can downgrade to
Windows XP Professional.

I'm sure Apple would totally publicize that...

I think I'll read the info more carefully and see if the downgrade thing
will work with Vista Ultimate upgrade retail.

You are still misunderstanding. You cannot upgrade from Vista to XP. It
is considered a downgrade. You can do a clean install of XP with an
upgrade disk *if* you have qualifying media such as a Win98/ME disk to
put in your optical drive during the early stages of the XP installation
process. This has nothing to do with Vista.

If you want to install XP instead of Vista on your computer, read
through the "guidelet" I already gave you regarding drivers. If there
are drivers for your computer's hardware for XP, purchase a retail copy
of XP - full if you don't have qualifying media, upgrade if you do have
qualifying media so you can save some money - and do a clean install of XP.

Since you purchased a retail copy of Vista and installed it yourself,
there are no downgrade rights that would get you a free copy of XP.


Malke

 

[Autumnale]

Oh I understand what you're saying now. Even if I buy a regular version of
XP, I still won't be able to "downgrade" to XP. Meaning that I can't keep my
files and music and stuff. It'd have to be a clean install. I was just
surfing today and read that part and I finally understand what you're saying
now. Thanks.

That is kind of crummy. It's not too hard to back up those things though.

Microsoft should release a "downgrade" version of XP just for the purposes
of people who want to go back to XP. I can kind of understand why it would
never do it though considering the massive embarrassment it would be.

I don't see how Windows 7 has any chance of being adopted considering the
whole debacle of the XP to Vista transition. It's been a year since Vista's
release and they still haven't fixed everything.

I suppose it's easier to just get a new video card and have the newer and
faster GPU hide the inadequacies of the software side of graphics performance
in Vista.

That Mac commercial is right. Ask not what Vista can do for you. Ask what
you can buy for Vista.

That said though, it's still infinitely cheaper to build your own computer
using Vista and the top of the line computer parts than to buy a Mac.

 

[Gary R.]

I was just
surfing today and read that part and I finally understand what you're
saying
now.

You read when you're surfing? Doesn't the book get wet?
(just in case you meant that "other" abomination of a definition for
"surfing", there is nothing you could ever do on a computer that even comes
close to equaling the worst day of surfing; whoever coined that term for
using the internet obviously never got anywhere near a real surfboard, and
would probably get fed to the sharks if we could ever find him)

That Mac commercial is right. Ask not what Vista can do for you. Ask
what
you can buy for Vista.
That said though, it's still infinitely cheaper to build your own computer
using Vista and the top of the line computer parts than to buy a Mac.

Mac users are all intelligent and cool, twenty-something and laid back and
have everything handled with ease; PC users are fat and stupid with
horn-rimmed glasses and spend all their time trying to get their computers
to work, when they're not out buying things to make it work, wearing
propeller beanies. Steve Jobs wants you to believe that, and until you do,
you can't be a true follower, no matter how much it costs. BTW, there's a
new Mac laptop out for only 2.5x the price of a similar PC, and it is really
advanced...one USB port, no optical drive, no ethernet; Jobs has decreed
that true cool, laid-back believers don't need that stuff. Who wants to bet
that the believers line up days ahead of time for the privilege of buying
however many they're allowed to?

I wonder if you can downgrade from jaguar to leopard, or whatever they are;
probably moot, no one would ever question the almighty's wisdom in providing
the new one, or they might be given a propeller beanie and horn-rimmed
glasses.

Gary