Is there a way to transfer files from one computer to the other without networking?

[Lorne_Taylor]

One machine is a XP Pro the other a new XP Home.

 

[rifleman]

CD?

 

[Phil]

Try a company called USB LINK "it does what it says on
the tin"!

Simply program on a floppy and a USB link cable with an
in line hub. Works a treat.

 

[Lorne_Taylor]

CD?

I'm considering that but many of my data files are larger than one CD and I
don't know how to do that.

Can you install Win98 on a system that already has XP.
I used to use networking in Win 98 about 3 years ago.
It was easy to set up.
I have read every help page posted here on XP networking but they all
assume that you want to connect to an existing network.
None of them help you connect two machines sitting side by side on the
desk.

I have to keep trying. My only alternative is to hire someone to come to my
home and physically remove the HDs.
I have access to the backs of both machines but my health doesn't allow me
to remove a computer from it's cubby hole in my desk.
I can't get anyone I can afford until saturday.

 

[purplehaz]

Floppy
CD-R
CD-RW
DVD-R
DVD-RW
Zip drive
Pen drive
Jasc drive
Removable IDE drives
USB removable drives
Internet
Email
FTP
USB networking
Direct cable(networking)
........... and I'm sure their are others........ take your pick

 

[Lorne_Taylor]

Try a company called USB LINK "it does what it says on
the tin"!

I did an unsuccessful google search. Is there more to this name?

Simply program on a floppy and a USB link cable with an
in line hub. Works a treat.

I can't afford to buy much more hardware.
I have to have it delivered.
I bought a networking hub and second hand monitor yesterday.
It cost 23 bucks for the purilator to deliver it.

 

[George Cruppi]

Type DIRECT CABLE CONNECTION into your HELP and SUPPORT search from the
START key.

 

[rifleman]

larger than 850 MB?
that's a hell of a file.

I'm considering that but many of my data files are larger than one CD and I
don't know how to do that.

Can you install Win98 on a system that already has XP.
I used to use networking in Win 98 about 3 years ago.
It was easy to set up.
I have read every help page posted here on XP networking but they all
assume that you want to connect to an existing network.
None of them help you connect two machines sitting side by side on the
desk.

I have to keep trying. My only alternative is to hire someone to come to my
home and physically remove the HDs.
I have access to the backs of both machines but my health doesn't allow me
to remove a computer from it's cubby hole in my desk.
I can't get anyone I can afford until saturday.

 

[Lorne_Taylor]

larger than 850 MB?
that's a hell of a file.

I'm an artist of sorts.
I have several working files over 2 gigs.
I was told many times to get a Mac.
I suppose I could return this new P4 and bite the Mac bullet. It's only
money.
I never dreamed I would have this much trouble get files from one machine
to the other.
When I bought this computer I was told it would be simple to network the
machines so I could use the HDs on the old machine.

 

[rifleman]

I'm an artist of sorts.
I have several working files over 2 gigs.
I was told many times to get a Mac.
I suppose I could return this new P4 and bite the Mac bullet. It's only
money.
I never dreamed I would have this much trouble get files from one machine
to the other.
When I bought this computer I was told it would be simple to network the
machines so I could use the HDs on the old machine.

networking in XP IS simple.
Does each machine have a Network card?

 

[Lorne_Taylor]

networking in XP IS simple.
Does each machine have a Network card?

Yes
Both machines appear to be connected via a hub.
I set them up using the network wizard.
The new machine can dial the modem on the old machine.
The network cards appear to be sharing data.

The new machine can find the old computer via the search for computers but
that's it.
I have no idea where to go from here.
I've read all the networking pages and none of them address this issue.

 

[rifleman]

Yes
Both machines appear to be connected via a hub.
I set them up using the network wizard.
The new machine can dial the modem on the old machine.
The network cards appear to be sharing data.

The new machine can find the old computer via the search for computers but
that's it.
I have no idea where to go from here.
I've read all the networking pages and none of them address this issue.

Do I assume that each machine is running XP?
You need either to set up the SAME user on each machine with the SAME
password and the SAME access rights, or, in Home Edition, enable the guest
account on each machine.
have you also ensured that the drives are Shared?

 

[Lorne_Taylor]

Do I assume that each machine is running XP?

My old machine came with XP Pro my new one has XP Home.

You need either to set up the SAME user on each machine with the SAME
password and the SAME access rights, or, in Home Edition, enable the guest
account on each machine.

This just gets more confusing all the time.
I thought networking was to allow different people to share files with each
other.
OK, I have created two identical accounts on both machines. Same name, same
password, and I assume the same access rights.

Guess what IT WORKED. I now have access to the folders I marked shared on
the old machine.
Thanks a bunch rifleman.

Maybe I missed this but I don't recall reading anything during setup or on
the networking pages that I had to create identical users on both systems.

Thanks again.

 

[purplehaz]

My old machine came with XP Pro my new one has XP Home.


This just gets more confusing all the time.
I thought networking was to allow different people to share files with each
other.
OK, I have created two identical accounts on both machines. Same name, same
password, and I assume the same access rights.

Guess what IT WORKED. I now have access to the folders I marked shared on
the old machine.
Thanks a bunch rifleman.

Maybe I missed this but I don't recall reading anything during setup or on
the networking pages that I had to create identical users on both systems.

Glad you got it, but I think more than one person yesterday(I know I
mentioned the identical users and passwords today) told you this is how xp
has to be setup. The reason for identical user accounts is that one user has
to log into the other xp box and to log into xp you need user accounts. When
you try to connect to a share using user1 the second xp box has oh user1
wants access, lets see if user1 has an account. Oh yes they do come on in.
If there is no account user1 gets denied. I know it gets frustrating but if
you followed advice from yesterday and really read the networking pages
posted(as all of them talk about identical users), you could have got this
up and running yesterday. Usually just following the exact advice and not
trying to do anything yourself will get you going. In any event at least
your all set now.

 

[Lorne_Taylor]

Glad you got it, but I think more than one person yesterday(I know I
mentioned the identical users and passwords today) told you this is how xp
has to be setup.

Maybe I missed it because it doesn't appear logical.
There is no security at all then.
If I wanted to share a few files with someone else this means I could go to
their computer and gain access to their entire system with MY password.
This make little sense to me.

The reason for identical user accounts is that one user has
to log into the other xp box and to log into xp you need user accounts. When
you try to connect to a share using user1 the second xp box has oh user1
wants access, lets see if user1 has an account. Oh yes they do come on in.
If there is no account user1 gets denied. I know it gets frustrating but if
you followed advice from yesterday and really read the networking pages
posted(as all of them talk about identical users), you could have got this
up and running yesterday. Usually just following the exact advice and not
trying to do anything yourself will get you going. In any event at least
your all set now.

Now I have to constantly type in a password every ten minutes. I've been
using XP for 3 years without a password. It seems stupid that for me to
connect two computers side by side on my desk I now have to constantly
enter a password.
It's no wonder people hate Microsoft.
I don't use a single program other than my OS that is from Microsoft.
Occasionally I have to use IE but that's it.
when I look back on my computer buying history I made the mistake of buying
a Microsoft OS simply so i could play a few games.
That mistake has haunted me for 6 years.

 

[rifleman]

Maybe I missed it because it doesn't appear logical.
There is no security at all then.
If I wanted to share a few files with someone else this means I could go to
their computer and gain access to their entire system with MY password.
This make little sense to me.

Not so - you would have to set yourself up as a User on that machine and for
that you would need access to either the Administrator account or a User
with Admin rights. There's plenty of security in that.

 

[Lorne_Taylor]

Not so - you would have to set yourself up as a User on that machine and for
that you would need access to either the Administrator account or a User
with Admin rights. There's plenty of security in that.

If there are IDENTICAL user accounts for the network then where is the
security.
You just log on the same user account on both systems with the same
password.
Both my computers now have identical accounts with identical passwords.

 

[rifleman]

If there are IDENTICAL user accounts for the network then where is the
security.
You just log on the same user account on both systems with the same
password.
Both my computers now have identical accounts with identical passwords.

this is where we enter the realms of NTFS and file and folder permissions.
The "Owner" of each machine on the network sets file and folder permissions
so that other users that are NOT the "owner" of that machine can only access
files and folders that they are allowed to.

 

[purplehaz]

Maybe I missed it because it doesn't appear logical.
There is no security at all then.
If I wanted to share a few files with someone else this means I could go to
their computer and gain access to their entire system with MY password.
This make little sense to me.

Now I have to constantly type in a password every ten minutes. I've been
using XP for 3 years without a password. It seems stupid that for me to
connect two computers side by side on my desk I now have to constantly
enter a password.
It's no wonder people hate Microsoft.
I don't use a single program other than my OS that is from Microsoft.
Occasionally I have to use IE but that's it.
when I look back on my computer buying history I made the mistake of buying
a Microsoft OS simply so i could play a few games.
That mistake has haunted me for 6 years.

Why would you need to enter a password. The password is only used to log
into windows. Once your logged in you dont enter a password anymore. If your
getting sent back to the welcome screen every ten minutes and at that point
you have to enter a password to get back in, then just change the setting
that controls that. Right click desktop, properties, screen saver tab,
uncheck: on resume password protect or on resume display welcome screen.
Also if you want xp to auto-logon when you have a password:
Start, run, type in: control userpasswords2, hit enter.

Uncheck: users must enter a user name and password to use this computer.

Xp will then ask you to enter the user and password you want to auto-logon
to.
Or
Download and install tweakui for xp and use its auto-logon feature.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

This stuff is really simple you just need to ask the right questions.

 

[purplehaz]

Maybe I missed it because it doesn't appear logical.
There is no security at all then.
If I wanted to share a few files with someone else this means I could go to
their computer and gain access to their entire system with MY password.
This make little sense to me.

I'm not sure where you got the idea you can use your password on someone
elses computer. I think your getting confused here. You only need identical
account when your networking your computers together and sharing files. If
you network with someone elses computer(that you don't own, not sure why
you'd do this) then the guest account can be setup to use instead of setting
up an identical user or the administrator account can be used as ALL xp
install have an administrator account. You can log into the other box with
that, then turn simple file sharing off and setup securities and
permissions. It's actually very secure and their are different ways to get
it setup depending on what your exactly trying to do. It just seems wrong to
you cause you don't understand sharing, security, and permissions in the
windows NT world.