Is my old IBM Deskstar 60GXP 40 GB HDD dying now?

[ANTant]

I need some other opinions from you HDD experts since I don't know about HDD issues. I would think it is dying,
but I can't seem to get the symptoms:

The last week, I noticed my Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates; VIA 4in1 drivers) acting funny. I checked the event
viewer logs and saw:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.For more information, see Help and
Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 10 33 06 00 00 00 00 00 .3......
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 a8 6f 3d 87 ....?o=?
0058: 00 00 00 00 d0 99 45 87 ....??E?
0060: 00 00 00 00 6e ff 93 0c ....n??.
0068: 2a 00 0c 93 ff 6e 00 00 *..??n..
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the timeout period.For more information, see Help and
Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 94 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........


Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 53 97 54 00 00 00 00 00 S?T.....
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 68 46 55 87 ....hFU?
0058: 00 00 00 00 a0 d2 30 87 .... ?0?
0060: 00 00 00 00 16 55 e2 0a .....U?.
0068: 2a 00 0a e2 55 16 00 00 *..?U...
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the timeout period.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........

Note: Yes, I have a paging file here.


HDD Tune v2.51 said on 5/18/2006 10:45 PM PDT:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 65536 Ok
(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 113 113 24 12910783 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 784 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 3 Ok
(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok
(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 13487 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 740 Ok
(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 784 Ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 784 Ok
(C2) Temperature 98 98 0 1179704 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3 Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 1 Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

Power On Time : 13487
Health Status : Ok

Note: 05 was highlighted yellow.

--

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>chkdsk d:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-D.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

10490412 KB total disk space.
5964844 KB in 9376 files.
3392 KB in 570 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
30828 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
4491348 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2622603 total allocation units on disk.
1122837 allocation units available on disk.

C:\>chkdsk g:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-G.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

9229308 KB total disk space.
2797308 KB in 6018 files.
2792 KB in 294 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
27548 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
6401656 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2307327 total allocation units on disk.
1600414 allocation units available on disk.

Notes: This 4 KB was from last year (don't remember when exactly). D and G: are two partitions on this
physical HDD.

My computer specifications can be found here: http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary
one).

I ran chkdsk a few times outside and inside of Windows and ran HD Tune's error scan, but found no new problems.
Speed looked good too.

Any ideas? Maybe I am not testing enough? Thank you in advance.
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[Guest]

Timeout may not necessarily mean the disk itself.
Could be the mobo is the cause, and the disk T/O
is only the symptom.

 

[Neill Massello]

Any ideas? Maybe I am not testing enough?

You need to do a surface scan, not just a file system check; but I
suggest you save some time and just replace the drive. All disks fail
eventually, and you got longer service from your Deskstar 60GXP than
most people did. Show your gratitude by opening up your wallet. (And you
don't need to avoid the "Deskstar" moniker: the current Hitachi drives
are quite good.)

 

[Rod Speed]

I need some other opinions from you HDD experts since
I don't know about HDD issues. I would think it is dying,

Yeah, looks like it.

but I can't seem to get the symptoms:

The problem appears to be the reallocated and pending sectors.

The last week, I noticed my Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates;
VIA 4in1 drivers) acting funny. I checked the event viewer logs and saw:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during
a paging operation. For more information, see Help and
Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 10 33 06 00 00 00 00 00 .3......
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 a8 6f 3d 87 ....?o=?
0058: 00 00 00 00 d0 99 45 87 ....??E?
0060: 00 00 00 00 6e ff 93 0c ....n??.
0068: 2a 00 0c 93 ff 6e 00 00 *..??n..
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within
the timeout period.For more information, see Help and
Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 94 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........


Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.
For more information, see Help and Support Center
at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 53 97 54 00 00 00 00 00 S?T.....
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 68 46 55 87 ....hFU?
0058: 00 00 00 00 a0 d2 30 87 .... ?0?
0060: 00 00 00 00 16 55 e2 0a .....U?.
0068: 2a 00 0a e2 55 16 00 00 *..?U...
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the timeout period.
For more information, see Help and Support Center
at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........

Note: Yes, I have a paging file here.

HDD Tune v2.51 said on 5/18/2006 10:45 PM PDT:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 65536 Ok
(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 113 113 24 12910783 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 784 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 3 Ok

Thats not good.

(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok
(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 13487 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 740 Ok
(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 784 Ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 784 Ok
(C2) Temperature 98 98 0 1179704 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3 Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 1 Ok

And neither are those two.

(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

Power On Time : 13487
Health Status : Ok

Note: 05 was highlighted yellow.

And so it should, it indicates that the drive has a problem.

--

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>chkdsk d:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-D.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

10490412 KB total disk space.
5964844 KB in 9376 files.
3392 KB in 570 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
30828 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
4491348 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2622603 total allocation units on disk.
1122837 allocation units available on disk.

C:\>chkdsk g:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-G.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

9229308 KB total disk space.
2797308 KB in 6018 files.
2792 KB in 294 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
27548 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
6401656 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2307327 total allocation units on disk.
1600414 allocation units available on disk.

Notes: This 4 KB was from last year (don't remember when
exactly). D and G: are two partitions on this physical HDD.

My computer specifications can be found here:
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt
(primary one).

I ran chkdsk a few times outside and inside of Windows and ran HD
Tune's error scan, but found no new problems. Speed looked good too.

Any ideas? Maybe I am not testing enough? Thank you in advance.

Try Hitachi's DFT, they bought IBM's hard drive operation.
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT

Thats one of the infamous Deathstars, likely its dying.

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

I need some other opinions from you HDD experts since I don't know about HDD issues. I would think it is dying,
but I can't seem to get the symptoms:

The last week, I noticed my Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates; VIA 4in1 drivers) acting funny. I checked the event
viewer logs and saw:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.
[snip]

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the timeout period.
[snip]

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.
[snip]

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the timeout period.
[snip]

Note: Yes, I have a paging file here.


HDD Tune v2.51 said on 5/18/2006 10:45 PM PDT:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 65536 Ok
(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 113 113 24 12910783 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 784 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 3 Ok
(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok
(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 13487 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 740 Ok
(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 784 Ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 784 Ok
(C2) Temperature 98 98 0 1179704 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3 Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 1 Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

Looks fine to me.
You may have (or have had) a problem (with) powersupply or an overheating problem.

Power On Time : 13487
Health Status : Ok

Note: 05 was highlighted yellow.

--
[snip]

C:\>chkdsk g:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-G.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

9229308 KB total disk space.
2797308 KB in 6018 files.
2792 KB in 294 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
27548 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
6401656 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2307327 total allocation units on disk.
1600414 allocation units available on disk.

Notes: This 4 KB was from last year (don't remember when exactly). D and G: are two partitions on this
physical HDD.

That may be the pending bad sector in that cluster.
It stays pending because it is not read nor written to anymore.

 

[ANTant]

OK, I did more digging. I moved my page swap off the G: drive to E drive, but still had
problems. For the heck of it, I tried defragging on my I: drive and man I got lots of disk
errors (timeouts, disconnected, freezes/pauses). I know it was a bad idea, but then it is my
video HDD (already saw my TV shows).

I think I am going to have to do disk test on this Seagate drive first outside of Windows.

I need some other opinions from you HDD experts since I don't know about HDD issues. I would think it is dying,
but I can't seem to get the symptoms:

The last week, I noticed my Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates; VIA 4in1 drivers) acting funny. I checked the event
viewer logs and saw:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.For more information, see Help and
Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 10 33 06 00 00 00 00 00 .3......
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 a8 6f 3d 87 ....?o=?
0058: 00 00 00 00 d0 99 45 87 ....??E?
0060: 00 00 00 00 6e ff 93 0c ....n??.
0068: 2a 00 0c 93 ff 6e 00 00 *..??n..
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the timeout period.For more information, see Help and
Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 94 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 53 97 54 00 00 00 00 00 S?T.....
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 68 46 55 87 ....hFU?
0058: 00 00 00 00 a0 d2 30 87 .... ?0?
0060: 00 00 00 00 16 55 e2 0a .....U?.
0068: 2a 00 0a e2 55 16 00 00 *..?U...
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the timeout period.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........

Note: Yes, I have a paging file here.

HDD Tune v2.51 said on 5/18/2006 10:45 PM PDT:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 65536 Ok
(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 113 113 24 12910783 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 784 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 3 Ok
(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok
(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 13487 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 740 Ok
(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 784 Ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 784 Ok
(C2) Temperature 98 98 0 1179704 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3 Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 1 Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

Power On Time : 13487
Health Status : Ok

Note: 05 was highlighted yellow.

--

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>chkdsk d:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-D.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

10490412 KB total disk space.
5964844 KB in 9376 files.
3392 KB in 570 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
30828 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
4491348 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2622603 total allocation units on disk.
1122837 allocation units available on disk.

C:\>chkdsk g:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-G.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

9229308 KB total disk space.
2797308 KB in 6018 files.
2792 KB in 294 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
27548 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
6401656 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2307327 total allocation units on disk.
1600414 allocation units available on disk.

Notes: This 4 KB was from last year (don't remember when exactly). D and G: are two partitions on this
physical HDD.

My computer specifications can be found here: http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary
one).

I ran chkdsk a few times outside and inside of Windows and ran HD Tune's error scan, but found no new problems.
Speed looked good too.

Any ideas? Maybe I am not testing enough? Thank you in advance.

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[ANTant]

Timeout may not necessarily mean the disk itself.
Could be the mobo is the cause, and the disk T/O
is only the symptom.

Like what? Old age? I haven't changed anytrhing for months in my computer (hardware).
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[ANTant]

You need to do a surface scan, not just a file system check; but I
suggest you save some time and just replace the drive. All disks fail
eventually, and you got longer service from your Deskstar 60GXP than
most people did. Show your gratitude by opening up your wallet. (And you
don't need to avoid the "Deskstar" moniker: the current Hitachi drives
are quite good.)

Doesn't chkdsk /r /f do surface scan? If not, then what do you suggest I use? The disk
utilities from manufactures?
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[ANTant]

I need some other opinions from you HDD experts since I don't know about HDD issues. I would think it is dying,
but I can't seem to get the symptoms:

The last week, I noticed my Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates; VIA 4in1 drivers) acting funny. I checked the event
viewer logs and saw:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.
[snip]

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the timeout period.
[snip]

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging operation.
[snip]

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the timeout period.
[snip]

Note: Yes, I have a paging file here.


HDD Tune v2.51 said on 5/18/2006 10:45 PM PDT:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60 65536 Ok
(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 113 113 24 12910783 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 784 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5 3 Ok
(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok
(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0 13487 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 740 Ok
(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 784 Ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 784 Ok
(C2) Temperature 98 98 0 1179704 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 3 Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 1 Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

Looks fine to me.
You may have (or have had) a problem (with) powersupply or an overheating problem.

It did get really warm a few days ago, but the recent symptoms wasn't that warm.
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[Guest]

Aa [Fri, 19 May 2006 15:58:38 -0500]:

Like what? Old age? I haven't changed anytrhing for months in my computer (ha

Like what? Are you looking for alternatives,
or do you already know it's the disk? If the
disk is bad, replace it. It'll be the easiest
thing to do.

 

[Rod Speed]

(e-mail address removed) wrote

(e-mail address removed) wrote

Correct. But he does have reallocated sectors in the SMART report.

Like what? Old age?

Yes, you can get bad caps on the motherboard. Those
are the usually blue or black plastic covered post like
things sticking up from the motherboard. The tops should
be flat and any that have bulged or leaked have failed.

I haven't changed anytrhing for months in my computer (hardware).

You dont need to have done with a cap failure or the
failure that those 60gxp drives are notorious for.

They are called deathstars for a reason.
That produced a full class action suit.

 

[Rod Speed]

OK, I did more digging. I moved my page swap
off the G: drive to E drive, but still had problems.
Fine.

For the heck of it, I tried defragging on my I: drive and
man I got lots of disk errors (timeouts, disconnected,
freezes/pauses). I know it was a bad idea, but then it
is my video HDD (already saw my TV shows).

That does suggest that it might be a problem outside the
drive, like motherboard/power supply/overheating etc.

In fact on a closer look, the drive temperature would be
worth checking with Everest, HDTune doesnt appear to
be showing it properly. Show the Seagate SMART data too.

I think I am going to have to do disk test on
this Seagate drive first outside of Windows.

And check the SMART data for that drive too.

I need some other opinions from you HDD experts since I don't know
about HDD issues. I would think it is dying, but I can't seem to get
the symptoms:

The last week, I noticed my Windows XP Pro. SP2 (all updates; VIA
4in1 drivers) acting funny. I checked the event viewer logs and saw:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging
operation.For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 10 33 06 00 00 00 00 00 .3......
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 a8 6f 3d 87 ....?o=?
0058: 00 00 00 00 d0 99 45 87 ....??E?
0060: 00 00 00 00 6e ff 93 0c ....n??.
0068: 2a 00 0c 93 ff 6e 00 00 *..??n..
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/18/2006
Time: 10:00:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the
timeout period.For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 94 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\D during a paging
operation.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 33 00 04 80 ....3..?
0010: 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 -.......
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 53 97 54 00 00 00 00 00 S?T.....
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ????....
0038: 40 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 @.......
0040: ff 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 ? ..?. @
0048: 00 00 01 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 68 46 55 87 ....hFU?
0058: 00 00 00 00 a0 d2 30 87 .... ?0?
0060: 00 00 00 00 16 55 e2 0a .....U?.
0068: 2a 00 0a e2 55 16 00 00 *..?U...
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Event Type: Error
Event Source: viamraid
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/17/2006
Time: 7:56:48 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MyCompy
Description:
The device, \Device\Scsi\viamraid1, did not respond within the
timeout period.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0f 00 10 00 01 00 6a 00 ......j.
0008: 00 00 00 00 09 00 04 c0 .......?
0010: 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8.......
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: 00 00 00 00 07 00 00 00 ........

Note: Yes, I have a paging file here.

HDD Tune v2.51 said on 5/18/2006 10:45 PM PDT:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData
Status (01) Raw Read Error Rate 100 100 60
65536 Ok (02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50
0 Ok (03) Spin Up Time 113 113 24
12910783 Ok (04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0
784 Ok (05) Reallocated Sector Count 100 100 5
3 Ok (07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67
0 Ok (08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20
0 Ok (09) Power On Hours Count 99 99 0
13487 Ok (0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60
0 Ok (0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0
740 Ok (C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50
784 Ok (C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50
784 Ok (C2) Temperature 98 98 0
1179704 Ok (C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0
3 Ok (C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0
1 Ok (C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0
0 Ok (C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0
0 Ok

Power On Time : 13487
Health Status : Ok

Note: 05 was highlighted yellow.

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C:\>chkdsk d:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-D.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

10490412 KB total disk space.
5964844 KB in 9376 files.
3392 KB in 570 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
30828 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
4491348 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2622603 total allocation units on disk.
1122837 allocation units available on disk.

C:\>chkdsk g:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is AFA64-G.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
Security descriptor verification completed.

9229308 KB total disk space.
2797308 KB in 6018 files.
2792 KB in 294 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
27548 KB in use by the system.
4096 KB occupied by the log file.
6401656 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2307327 total allocation units on disk.
1600414 allocation units available on disk.

Notes: This 4 KB was from last year (don't remember when exactly). D
and G: are two partitions on this
physical HDD.

My computer specifications can be found here:
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary
one).

I ran chkdsk a few times outside and inside of Windows and ran HD
Tune's error scan, but found no new problems. Speed looked good too.

Any ideas? Maybe I am not testing enough? Thank you in advance.

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[Kevin McMurtrie]

The IBM Deskstar drives were notorious for failures. IBM's solution to
their short life was to say that they shouldn't be used for more than a
couple of hours day, though warranty replacements for early drives could
still be used continuously without voiding the warranty. IBM sold their
sinking hard drive business to Hitachi.

I gave up on regular warranty replacements after a while. I don't have
much that I want to put on such an unreliable drive. Most died within 6
to 18 months. Only one out of maybe 6 still works today.

 

[Howard S Shubs]

Thats one of the infamous Deathstars, likely its dying.

Note that every drive is a Deathstar at the end of its life,
effectively. They were pretty good when new.

 

[Rod Speed]

Note that every drive is a Deathstar at the end of its life, effectively.

No they arent, I have plenty that work fine,
they're just too small to be any use anymore.

They were pretty good when new.

Like hell they were, there's a reason for the full class action suit.

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]

[bigsnip]

It did get really warm a few days ago, but the recent symptoms wasn't that warm.

Doesn't matter. The errors are introduced when the power supply is marginal
or temperature is high. It can be quite some time before you run in to them if
you don't access the files they are in frequently or don't do surface scans often.
Once introduced, (write)errors stay, even if the system returns to normal.
These errors are corrected/disappear when the 'bad' sectors are re/over-written.

 

[Howard S Shubs]

Like hell they were, there's a reason for the full class action suit.

I must've missed that bit.

 

[Kevin McMurtrie]

Note that every drive is a Deathstar at the end of its life,
effectively. They were pretty good when new.

Deathstars were a disaster. Many batches of them started loosing blocks
or completely failing after few months. Of those that survived, a
slight bump to your computer could cause a catastrophic head crash.

IBM actually changed the specifications to say that Deskstars must not
be used continuously. I was told on the phone that my warranty
replacements should not be powered on more than 2 hours a day.

Yes, IBM was hit with a class action suit for advertising the drives as
highly reliable giving false MTBF specifications.

 

[Guest]

haha, talk about a yarn... slight bump, yeah,
right. 2 hours a day, yeah, right. "False"
MTBF, yeah, right. Anyway, here it is about
seven years later and it's still running. hah


Kevin McMurtrie [Sun, 21 May 2006 00:26:52 -0700]:

 

[Arno Wagner]

haha, talk about a yarn... slight bump, yeah,
right. 2 hours a day, yeah, right. "False"
MTBF, yeah, right. Anyway, here it is about
seven years later and it's still running. hah

They have a high failure probability. They do not have ensured early
failure. I have personally seen 3 of 3 I used fail in different
computers and have seen others fail. When our department IT people
decided to swap them all out, most had already failed (of about 15 or
so).

Of course some people are lucky and teirs run forever. But that is
not what MTBF is about. I think you are statistically challenged.

Arno

Kevin McMurtrie [Sun, 21 May 2006 00:26:52 -0700]:

slight bump to your computer could cause a catastrophic head crash.
replacements should not be powered on more than 2 hours a day.
highly reliable giving false MTBF specifications.