Is it time to upgrade?

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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)

I am using AMD X2 3800+ on a Asus M2N-E. :)

1. Should I upgrade now?
2. If I was to upgrade, should I stay with AMD or switch to Intel?

My interests:

1. Faster onboard SATA RAID 0
2. PCIe 2.0
3. Faster memory
4. Larger amount of memory
5. More PCIe 1x slots
6. On-board eSATA

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JR Weiss

Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) said:
I am using AMD X2 3800+ on a Asus M2N-E. :)

1. Should I upgrade now?
2. If I was to upgrade, should I stay with AMD or switch to Intel?

My interests:

1. Faster onboard SATA RAID 0
2. PCIe 2.0
3. Faster memory
4. Larger amount of memory
5. More PCIe 1x slots
6. On-board eSATA

Looks like the M2N-E already has everything you "need," even if it doesn't have
the unspecified "faster" stuff that you think you want...

You already have 3Gbps SATA. Just put a pair of Velociraptors on it.
What gfx card do you have that can take advantage of PCIe 2.0?
What will faster RAM do for you?
What OS do you run that can take advantage of more than 8 GB RAM?
What PCIe 1x devices are you running?
Run an eSATA header from one of your current SATA ports.

Spend $76 for an X2 6000+ and $360 for a pair of Velociraptor 150s, and you'll
likely see significant performance gains. If you still think you need more, you
can use the HDs in a new rig later...
 
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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)

What gfx card do you have that can take advantage of PCIe 2.0?

Asus Radeon 4850
What will faster RAM do for you?

Psychology. :)
What OS do you run that can take advantage of more than 8 GB RAM?

64-bit Vi$ta
What PCIe 1x devices are you running?

Planning to get an X-Fi Titanium, and maybe a PCIe DMB-TH TV card.
Spend $76 for an X2 6000+ and $360 for a pair of Velociraptor 150s, and you'll
likely see significant performance gains. If you still think you need more, you
can use the HDs in a new rig later...

Do you think a AMD780G motherboard which has hybrid Crossfire worth the
money and troubles? I am a bit worried about the SATA performance of
780G....


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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)

Do you think a AMD780G motherboard which has hybrid Crossfire worth the
money and troubles? I am a bit worried about the SATA performance of
780G....

Did a bit of re-search via google, seems that hybrid crossfire is for
slow PCIe display card. Doesn't make sense if I have a 4850....

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JR Weiss

Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) said:
Asus Radeon 4850

One of the tests on Tom's Hardware
(http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-2-0,1915.html) indicates you
won't get any noticeable difference from PCIe 2.0, unless you can see the
difference of about 1-2% in frame rates for the most demanding games. That may
be different if you go to a multi-GPU setup, though...
Psychology. :)

Not a good reason to spend the $$.

64-bit Vi$ta

What apps do you run that will use >8 GB? Do you have 8 GB installed now?

Planning to get an X-Fi Titanium, and maybe a PCIe DMB-TH TV card.

Don't you have 2 1x slots already?

Do you think a AMD780G motherboard which has hybrid Crossfire worth the
money and troubles? I am a bit worried about the SATA performance of
780G....

I don't think SLI or Crossfire is worth the $$ at all. But I'm not a gamer...

Why are you worried about SATA performance? What problems do you see now or
anticipate?

If you have money that you just HAVE TO spend, then have at it! however, it
looks like you have a mix of mainstream and high-end mainstream equipment now.
If you're worried about absolute performance, you'll have to replace EVERYTHING
and go to Intel, nVidia...

You can, as I noted above, spend a modest amount of $$ for real performance
gains. If you need any more than that, it's time to start from scratch.
 
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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)

If you have money that you just HAVE TO spend, then have at it! however, it
looks like you have a mix of mainstream and high-end mainstream equipment now.
If you're worried about absolute performance, you'll have to replace EVERYTHING
and go to Intel, nVidia...

You can, as I noted above, spend a modest amount of $$ for real performance
gains. If you need any more than that, it's time to start from scratch.

Thanks.

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meow2222

Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k) said:
I am using AMD X2 3800+ on a Asus M2N-E. :)

1. Should I upgrade now?
2. If I was to upgrade, should I stay with AMD or switch to Intel?

My interests:

1. Faster onboard SATA RAID 0
2. PCIe 2.0
3. Faster memory
4. Larger amount of memory
5. More PCIe 1x slots
6. On-board eSATA

I dont know what you need higher performance for, only you can answer
the question whether you need it really. IME changing app software to
faster less bloated versions and shutting down background crap is
often all people need. You can also remove various background windows
components that are wasting cpu time.


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Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)

I dont know what you need higher performance for, only you can answer
the question whether you need it really. IME changing app software to
faster less bloated versions and shutting down background crap is
often all people need. You can also remove various background windows
components that are wasting cpu time.

Had disabled some useless services... thanks

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