Is it possible to use wireless AND still access my LAN?

[Ant]

Hello,

I use wireless with a friend's WAP, with permission, next door for
Internet access (different domains, data, etc.). However, I cannot use
LAN. If I enable my 3Com NIC that is connected to my old Netgear DS108
hub connected to a Netgear RT311 router, I lose Internet access with WAP.

How can I configure to keep both? I want to be able to use LAN while on
my friend's ISP. I do NOT want to change anything on my friend's WAP --
only my side. I hope the solution is easy to do.

Thank you in advance.
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[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi,

To connect to both simultaneously you would need two nic's, one for each. A
single nic handles a single address. Your LAN and your friend's WAP are
using different addresses for your machine.

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[Ant]

To connect to both simultaneously you would need two nic's, one for each. A
single nic handles a single address. Your LAN and your friend's WAP are
using different addresses for your machine.

The wireless network connection is connected on a USB port.
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[Nepatsfan]

On your PC, open the Help and Support center. Search for bridge
connections. Start at the Network Bridge overview article.

I'm not sure if that's what you're trying to accomplish but it
may be worth looking into how you can bridge the wired and
wireless connections.

Nepatsfan

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Hello,

I use wireless with a friend's WAP, with permission, next door for
Internet access (different domains, data, etc.). However, I cannot use
LAN. If I enable my 3Com NIC that is connected to my old Netgear DS108
hub connected to a Netgear RT311 router, I lose Internet access with WAP.

How can I configure to keep both? I want to be able to use LAN while on
my friend's ISP. I do NOT want to change anything on my friend's WAP --
only my side. I hope the solution is easy to do.

Thank you in advance.

Make sure that:

1. The LAN and the wireless networks use different subnets.

2. There's no default gateway specified for your LAN. If your
computer gets its LAN TCP/IP configuration from your router's DHCP
server, it probably has a default gateway specified.

Why are you using a router? Can you remove it and use just the hub?

Does your friend's ISP permit its customers to share Internet access
with other people in other houses?
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[Shenan Stanley]

I use wireless with a friend's WAP, with permission, next door for
Internet access (different domains, data, etc.). However, I cannot use
LAN. If I enable my 3Com NIC that is connected to my old Netgear DS108
hub connected to a Netgear RT311 router, I lose Internet access with
WAP.
How can I configure to keep both? I want to be able to use LAN while
on my friend's ISP. I do NOT want to change anything on my friend's
WAP -- only my side. I hope the solution is easy to do.

Thank you in advance.

Using DHCP on the wireless?
Using DHCP on the wired?

If you are and you haven't manually entered anything - you should be able to
switch between them seamlessly.

 

[Ant]

OK, I will check that out later. If I have issues, then I will follow-up.

On your PC, open the Help and Support center. Search for bridge
connections. Start at the Network Bridge overview article.

I'm not sure if that's what you're trying to accomplish but it
may be worth looking into how you can bridge the wired and
wireless connections.

Nepatsfan

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[Ant]

Using DHCP on the wireless?
Using DHCP on the wired?

If you are and you haven't manually entered anything - you should be able to
switch between them seamlessly.

Switch? How about using both at the same time? I still want to access LAN.
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[Ant]

Make sure that:

1. The LAN and the wireless networks use different subnets.

What should I enter for them?

2. There's no default gateway specified for your LAN. If your
computer gets its LAN TCP/IP configuration from your router's DHCP
server, it probably has a default gateway specified.

Router gives 192.168.0.1 as the gateway according to ipconfig.

Why are you using a router? Can you remove it and use just the hub?

Don't I still need an IP address from DHCP? Where will the computers
connected to LAN and not to WAP get an IP address?

Does your friend's ISP permit its customers to share Internet access
with other people in other houses?

Not sure. I assume so if multiple computers are allowed as a network.
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[Ant]

Switch? How about using both at the same time? I still want to access LAN.

A better example. Dial-up with an ISP + LAN still working. I want this
setup, but dial-up access = wireless access.

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[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

What should I enter for them?



Router gives 192.168.0.1 as the gateway according to ipconfig.



Don't I still need an IP address from DHCP? Where will the computers
connected to LAN and not to WAP get an IP address?



Not sure. I assume so if multiple computers are allowed as a network.

Your computers don't need a DHCP server for their LAN connections, so
remove the router from your network. You can either:

1. Leave them configured to obtain an IP address automatically. When
they can't find a DHCP server, they'll automatically assign themselves
compatible IP addresses in the 169.254.x.x/255.255.0.0 subnet. This
will add about 1 minute to the time needed for Windows to start up.

or:

2. Assign them static IP addresses in a different subnet than your
neighbor uses. All of the broadband routers that I've seen use
192.168.x.x, so assign a completely different private subnet, like
10.0.0.x/255.0.0.0 to your computers. Don't assign a default gateway.

Some ISPs allow using multiple computers on a home network within the
subscriber's house. I don't know of any ISPs that allow sharing a
connection with the neighbors.
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[Ant]

Your computers don't need a DHCP server for their LAN connections, so
remove the router from your network. You can either:

1. Leave them configured to obtain an IP address automatically. When
they can't find a DHCP server, they'll automatically assign themselves
compatible IP addresses in the 169.254.x.x/255.255.0.0 subnet. This
will add about 1 minute to the time needed for Windows to start up.

or:

2. Assign them static IP addresses in a different subnet than your
neighbor uses. All of the broadband routers that I've seen use
192.168.x.x, so assign a completely different private subnet, like
10.0.0.x/255.0.0.0 to your computers. Don't assign a default gateway.

OK, I will try that later. I need some shut eyes. I will follow-up
later. Merry Christmas!
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[Rick and Deb]

Go to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web they will be able to help you
there.

 

[Ant]

Umm, we are in microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web newsgroup.

Go to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web they will be able to help you
there.

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[Mark L. Ferguson]

Zero Configuration 1. Click Start, click Control Panel, and then click
Network and Internet Connections. 2. Click Network Connections, right-click
Wireless Connection, and then click Properties. 3. View the available
options:

 

[GateKeeper]

This article from Microsoft might be what you want.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...xp/all/proddocs/en-us/hnw_bridge_install.mspx