Intel p4 retail heatsink

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KR Williams

Yes, and yes they have been around a relatively long time.

However, they aren't so user-friendly:
o Most PCs never see the CPU removed
---- eg, branded PCs or many corporate PCs
o SOHO PCs do tend to see the CPU removed
---- and some segments see extensive CPU changes

Indeed they're not PeeCee friendly, for the given reasons. I
don't see how they'll work, unless the market changes
drastically. LGA sockets are the pits, or are incredibly
expensive. I've paid upwards of $3000 each, for LGA/BGA sockets
that'll last more than 50 or so cycles (like the $50 variety).
Thus far, reports indicate that the proposed system is only good
for a very low number of few fit & removal cycles. Even then,
the cycles are subject to considerable risk during the fitting with
bent pins & damaged motherboard &/or CPU being a reality.

Well, duh! This has been known for years. Again, I don't see
how this is going to fit in the PeeCee market. It works well for
ASICS, and even Apple. The PeeCee market is very different.
It may come down to the clamping solution design I guess.
The Intel P4s was nice re thro-board, easier lever than skt370,
but I disliked the amount of stress on the thickness reduced
motherboard re track stresses. Never heard of a failure tho.
Glueing the part to the board solves that problem, but it sure
makes a heck of a mess of inventory. ;-)
 
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Dorothy Bradbury

Indeed they're not PeeCee friendly, for the given reasons. I
don't see how they'll work, unless the market changes
drastically. LGA sockets are the pits, or are incredibly
expensive. I've paid upwards of $3000 each, for LGA/BGA sockets
that'll last more than 50 or so cycles (like the $50 variety).

The plan is to use them, AFAIK.
Glueing the part to the board solves that problem, but it sure
makes a heck of a mess of inventory. ;-)

Intel Crowbar Outside :)
 
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KR Williams

The plan is to use them, AFAIK.

Apple's been using 'em for years. I wait to see how this plays
out in the PeeCee market. These packages don't fit the current
market at all, though perhaps technicalities will force
economics? Nah! ;-)
Intel Crowbar Outside :)

Well... I can see how Dell works with this model, maybe. How
does the white-box survive? I don't believe even Michael has the
power to kill the white-box. It's bigger than even he.
 
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Kevin Miller

Totally screwed isn't it. I was happy the damn thing worked again since it
would have been a really bad time to be down. Makes you wonder why they use
that crap. If you remove it, it voids the warranty, since you are not using
the "original" equipment. The stock heat sink is nice for just that - stock
use. But pure copper seems to work nice, and water even better. Kind of
like the old muscle cars, no one left them alone because there was more
hidden power to be found.

Shannon

Actually, my cpu had thermal paste on it at the time! :(

Kevin Miller

"Either way, it is bad for Zathras."
 
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Peskypete

Triffidwrote:
JB said:
I'm about to re-attach my heatsink to my CPU and have just started to

clean

them up. On the bottom of the heatsink is a metal pad that did have a

thick

black substance on it that I've cleaned off (and off the CPU). Should I
remove the metal sticker-type thing on the heatsink or leave it on there?

I

plan on using a silver compound.


Thanks for your help!


The Intel retail solution works fine. Intel says the unit is not resuable
if you remove the material provided.
Unfortunately the 'unit' that is not reusable all too often turns out
to
be the CPU, which tends to suffer bent and/or broken pins when the
user
attempts to remove a heatsink which has been glued to the processor by

the 'Intel retail solution'.

Mind you, I've developed some expertise in straightening and replacing

CPU pins - and demand for my services is increasing, so Intel's
'solution' is not entirely a bad thing :)
I am running a 1.8 at 2.75 with their solution and the cpu reaches a max of
47-48 C under prolonged full load with a room temp of 24 C.

BTW, a later model Intel heatsink, which I am using, has a copper core and a
different fin structure than came with the 1.8.





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Whats the secret with staightening and replacing bent pins on the cpu
I can hardly see the ones on mine!! do you need to have jewlerers
expertize to do this sucessesfully

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