Intel 925X/915: Chipset Performance & DDR2

[Ed]

It was hard to resist being glib and titling this article, "Much Ado
about Very Little". That feeling of disappointment comes from seeing so
much new technology introduced all at once, and then finding out the
real performance benefit is extremely small - if it exists at all. If
Intel wants us to turn our computer world upside down, there should be a
real tangible benefit to the bucks we are expected to spend.
Unfortunately, that performance advantage is pretty hard to find - at
least for now. There are certainly a few gems in the total package, but
if you're looking for a big performance advantage, overall, it just
isn't there.

http://www.anandtech.com/chipsets/showdoc.html?i=2088

 

[RusH]

finding out the real performance benefit is extremely small - if
it exists at all.

I really like this -3% (that's minus) performance increase

http://www.anandtech.com/chipsets/showdoc.html?i=2088

thats not the way to view it, try :
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.html?i=2088
no clicking thru, one simple page.


Pozdrawiam.

 

[Ed]

thats not the way to view it, try :
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.html?i=2088
no clicking thru, one simple page.

OK

Is this Intel's all new platform or is this just the low end part of it?
I thought the new boards were to have a 1066 FSB and Intel was to
release a 3.8GHz P4 to go with it? Why else would AMD release a 3800+?

Ed

 

[Diskhead]

It was hard to resist being glib and titling this article, "Much Ado
about Very Little". That feeling of disappointment comes from seeing so
much new technology introduced all at once, and then finding out the
real performance benefit is extremely small - if it exists at all. If
Intel wants us to turn our computer world upside down, there should be a
real tangible benefit to the bucks we are expected to spend.
Unfortunately, that performance advantage is pretty hard to find - at
least for now. There are certainly a few gems in the total package, but
if you're looking for a big performance advantage, overall, it just
isn't there.

http://www.anandtech.com/chipsets/showdoc.html?i=2088

I'm not running aout to buy one of these. AMD64 is next up for me.

 

[RusH]

Is this Intel's all new platform or is this just the low end part
of it? I thought the new boards were to have a 1066 FSB and Intel
was to release a 3.8GHz P4 to go with it? Why else would AMD
release a 3800+?

Intel is all about low end recentrly .

Pozdrawiam.

 

[Rupert Pigott]

It was hard to resist being glib and titling this article, "Much Ado
about Very Little". That feeling of disappointment comes from seeing so
much new technology introduced all at once, and then finding out the
real performance benefit is extremely small - if it exists at all. If
Intel wants us to turn our computer world upside down, there should be a
real tangible benefit to the bucks we are expected to spend.
Unfortunately, that performance advantage is pretty hard to find - at
least for now. There are certainly a few gems in the total package, but
if you're looking for a big performance advantage, overall, it just
isn't there.

http://www.anandtech.com/chipsets/showdoc.html?i=2088

I read that and something did occur to me... A long long time ago I was
talking to a guy about the various socket designs (a decade ago), before
people started packing 100W parts into sockets. He mentioned that some
designs were preferable to others (eg PGA) because they helped dissipate
heat through the pins. *IF* that wasn't just BS, I can't help but wonder
if the LGA socket is going to remove some of that (probably miniscule)
benefit. Anyone with more current knowledge of board design able to
debunk/comment on that ?

Cheers,
Rupert

 

[K Williams]

I read that and something did occur to me... A long long time ago
I was talking to a guy about the various socket designs (a decade
ago), before people started packing 100W parts into sockets. He
mentioned that some designs were preferable to others (eg PGA)
because they helped dissipate heat through the pins. *IF* that
wasn't just BS, I can't help but wonder if the LGA socket is going
to remove some of that (probably miniscule) benefit. Anyone with
more current knowledge of board design able to debunk/comment on
that ?

Of course a PGA package will help pull heat out of a widget, but
only if the design of the board (and infrastructure) under it is
designed to sink it to another lower thermal potential. The fact
is that PCs are designed to be *cheap*, so this place doesn't
exist. BGAs and LGAs simply aren't compatible with the PC
*market*. This has nothing to do with technology. It's the market
that drives these huge PGAs.

....frankly I'm amazed it's gone on so long. I thought technology
would trump business before this. I guess the socket engineers are
smarter than I gave them credit for!

 

[Yousuf Khan]

Is this Intel's all new platform or is this just the low end part of
it? I thought the new boards were to have a 1066 FSB and Intel was to
release a 3.8GHz P4 to go with it? Why else would AMD release a 3800+?

So far it looks like AMD is releasing faster parts into the wild, with no
response from Intel whatsoever.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Ed]

So far it looks like AMD is releasing faster parts into the wild, with no
response from Intel whatsoever.

Yousuf Khan

Oh you must of missed it, same response as always...

"There is no need for (competitors better product here] on desktops
today".

;p

 

[George Macdonald]

So far it looks like AMD is releasing faster parts into the wild, with no
response from Intel whatsoever.

Yousuf Khan

Oh you must of missed it, same response as always...

"There is no need for (competitors better product here] on desktops
today".

Well when you have "the most significant platform in 12 years" and you can
get analysts to spout the same, why worry! It does kinda make you wonder
how "significant" on-die memory controller and standardized I/O bus (HT) is
as a "platform" though?

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??